Nicholas J. Fuentes, Candace Owens, and other Right Wing Grifters
This fkn guy.. haven’t heard of him before 🤡🎯but when I did, I was overwhelmed. He’s a phenomenal speake
You’re a smart guy Geezer, there’s no way you think that’s true. The existence of the Houthis, Hezbollah, Hamas, and ISIS are enough to show that’s not the case.
And we’re not fans of the IRGC or the former Assad Regime either.
There’s plenty that happens in MENA we’re not partial to.
Well said. You can even be extremely critical of Netanyahu, Israel itself and/or American foreign policy without resorting to "Jewish money runs the US and controls the ME" rhetoric; that is clearly not true.
You can even be extremely critical of Netanyahu, Israel itself and/or American foreign policy
criticizing Israel is considered antisemitic by all of the influential antisemitism organizations, groups, coalitions, and advocates. its considered antisemitic by most American universities. and ofc the mainstream media.
now, obv I dont agree with geezer's paraphrase of the Buchanan quote despite the slander leveled at me by my haters who seem unable to read properly as I have stated many times that I tend to agree with the noted antisemite Nasrallah who said "the tail doesnt wag the dog" in reference to the relationship between Israel and the USA.
regardless, no you cant criticize Israel in any way without being accused of antisemitism and this is displayed every day.
I might agree with you that the antisemitism ngos muddy the waters when they include good faith criticism of Israel as antisemitic, but what you consider good faith criticism of Israel might be different from my own opinion.
You’re a smart guy Geezer, there’s no way you think that’s true. The existence of the Houthis, Hezbollah, Hamas, and ISIS are enough to show that’s not the case.
And we’re not fans of the IRGC or the former Assad Regime either.
There’s plenty that happens in MENA we’re not partial to.
My claim that, 'As a rule of thumb, NOTHING happens in the ME without the consent of the US and Israel' was imprecise and sloppily worded.
A less hyperbolic and more precise (and maybe a bit understated rendering of my view would be: As a rule-of-thumb, US foreign policy in the ME is heavily influenced by Israeli interests; much more so than by any other country in the ME.
I dont know what your motivation is. But you are extremely ignorant and hateful, and you revel in your hateful ignorance. You are proud of it. Even when your ignorance is completely laid out in front of you, you are completely immune to absorbing any information which doesn't fit your pre-existing biases.I laid out a ton of facts showing that Israel does not run the US or the
1. I plead 'guilty' to being ignorant often. But I hate absolutely nobody.
2. I've changed my opinions a number of times based on discussions in this forum. Not sure where your claim that I 'am immune to absorbing any information which doesn't fit your pre-existing biases' comes from.
3. I ofc never said that 'Israel runs the US.' I have expressed my opinion that Israel has extraordinary and undo influence on our elected leaders.
4. I did say (in effect) that 'The US and Israel run the ME' which was for sure an overstatement on my part. You gave some good examples countering that claim of mine.
5. When I'm wrong about something, I endeavor to own up to it. And I gots the receipts to prove it.
6. Absolutely NOTHING hateful or bigoted in any of my posts on this topic.
7. Make it a great day!
Fuentes is a a bog standard white supremacist who is aware enough to not look like a skinhead in public when the cameras roll, but is fullbore Nazi beneath the facade. This is complete with both holocaust denial and statements such as "we will make them die in the holy war" in reference to Jews.
Like many nationalists, he has been lifted into the mainstream conservative political sphere by Trumpism / MAGA, the most dramatic example of this is when he had dinner with Trump at Mar-a-lago. That's a (at the time) former and future US president sitting down for dinner with a holocaust denier.
Fuentes is a a bog standard white supremacist who is aware enough to not look like a skinhead in public when the cameras roll, but is fullbore Nazi beneath the facade. This is complete with both holocaust denial and statements such as "we will make them die in the holy war" in reference to Jews. Like many nationalists, he has been lifted into the mainstream conservative politic
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Fuentes is a a bog standard white supremacist who is aware enough to not look like a skinhead in public when the cameras roll, but is fullbore Nazi beneath the facade. This is complete with both holocaust denial and statements such as "we will make them die in the holy war" in reference to Jews.
He's not though. You should read my posts ITT. He's pretty talented. The standard white supremacist is a giant loser idiot who can't hack it even with all the advantages of being white. He really wants mainstream acceptance and he is doing this thing, the same thing AOC did or Tucker Carlson is doing, basically saying ok you reject me so I am going to use my talents to spread the truth you don't want spread until you let me in. AOC got in and immediately stopped making any "rukus" whatsoever. Carlson is trying to be some kind of social arsonist after leaving Fox.
Fuentes and Kirk were enemies. Fuentes followers would crash TPUSA events and shout down speakers. But after Kirk's killing, Fuentes is treating his longstanding rivalry with Kirk as water under the bridge and calling for state repression of the Left. He is really tipping his hand and saying hey let me in and I will get with the program, not talking about Kirk's being owned by Israel etc.
He doesn't really, deep down, care about Jews. He really is a grifter. He will drop the antisemitism in 2 seconds for a decent status upgrade. He is exploiting the truth of our government's being owned and controlled by Israel to gain followers and has taken an anti-Semitic perspective in so doing. But it's all just to get attention and threaten the mainstream into elevating him.
Like many nationalists, he has been lifted into the mainstream conservative political sphere by Trumpism / MAGA, the most dramatic example of this is when he had dinner with Trump at Mar-a-lago. That's a (at the time) former and future US president sitting down for dinner with a holocaust denier.
He is the default spokesman for the truly deplorable wing of MAGA, a decent chunk of the base. He has credibility because others will not talk about Israeli influence on our government. If we were just al open about this he would have no audience and wouldn't have the opportunity to put his anti-Semitic spin on it.
Downplaying Fuentes’s antisemitism to own the libs. Fabulous.
He said he doesn’t want people blaming Israel for CK’s assassination because it makes antisemites look like cranks, and he thinks that the narrative Israel did it is actually a Jewish plot. Not that he is shifting his position on the Jews.
If Fuentes wanted to play ball and go mainstream, he had ample opportunity to do it in 2016. Calling him a grifter given his history of losing his platform due to never shutting up about the Jews and White separatism is a bit of sanewashing on your part.
He is MEXICAN!! AS IN INDINGENOUS NATIVE AMERICAN!! WTF
GIVE US SOME EXAMPLES OF THE SEPERATISM
CITE OR BAN!!
and to the other claim OF white supremist the same!
CITE OR BAN!!
https://youtu.be/-Y6nuNqu7lI?si=pHjt63vR...
This is from two weeks ago. Start at 52:00. He’s talking about how white people want to live only among other white people and saying it’s a good thing. He also speculates if only white people have what it takes to live in a society where everyone is harmonious.
Brother he’s 20% mexican. He is completely white passing. You’re delusional if you think he’s some dark skinned brown person just because he’s 20% mexican.
Also stop getting so emotional and just ask for a source. You’re kind of getting in your feelings a bit.
Edit: woooow he deleted his post. Coward.
Based on past performance Good chance that was one of a long string of troll posts a mod deleted.
He's not though. You should read my posts ITT. He's pretty talented. The standard white supremacist is a giant loser idiot who can't hack it even with all the advantages of being white. He really wants mainstream acceptance and he is doing this thing, the same thing AOC did or Tucker Carlson is doing, basically saying ok you reject me so I am going to use my talents to spread t
His whole brand is antisemitism and white nationalism. It is probably 80% of the content on his show. The idea he is going to Be “let in the door” and pivot to something else doesn’t seem very realistic.
Even if you were right about his motives (very dubious), audience capture and expectations would probably make this impossible.
Everything he has done has indicated he isn’t a grifter. He has burnt a lot of bridges with the right-wing in order to keep his Jew-hating message.
If he’s a grifter he has mad love for the game because he just appears to be a true believer, as others have mentioned
You guys must have a different definition of grifter than mine.
Mine (and the one I just found online) doesn't imply that the person has no actual beliefs.
A grifter is someone who cynically peddles something they don’t actually believe in for monetary gain and any other definition of grifter is misinformed
Deuces, is Don Black, or David Duke grifters?
Kirk was your average centrist male. The others aren't.
You guys must have a different definition of grifter than mine.
Mine (and the one I just found online) doesn't imply that the person has no actual beliefs.
Yes we must because I think that’s a silly definition.
If you believe him, he actually refuses to do sponsorships because he doesn’t want people to take him less seriously. He makes fun of Alex Jones and the like for doing ads. Doesn’t seem very griftery to me.
He doesn't really, deep down, care about Jews. He really is a grifter. He will drop the antisemitism in 2 seconds for a decent status upgrade. He is exploiting the truth of our government's being owned and controlled by Israel to gain followers and has taken an anti-Semitic perspective in so doing. But it's all just to get attention and threaten the mainstream into elevating hi
wtf?
if you change "truth" to "perception" then hes not wrong. the US will jettison Israel when its no longer worthwhile to send them weapons for their murderous rampages. but for now, having a genocidal ethnostate drunk on the blood of the underclass as your contract killer is a very profitable endeavor for the White Empire. and pushing this whole "occupied by Israel" or "controlled by Netanyahu" narrative gives the perfect cover for when they are no longer useful to the ruling elites. thats why Tucker and Candace and the rest are laying the groundwork. like in Rounders, "always leave yourself outs".
A grifter is someone who cynically peddles something they don’t actually believe in for monetary gain and any other definition of grifter is misinformed
I disagree with this definition, and I've never even heard of the word being used in that manner. I just did a Google search and scrolled down a few pages, have found no references to being a grifter requiring any beliefs or lack of beliefs.
But I am not claiming that Fuentes is a grifter; I don't know if he actually swindles money from anyone.
