Do you believe for a second that Trump will leave the White House?
Factoring in p2025 and every action that has been taken between every effort to muzzle the media, demanding fealty payments for every major corporate action to be blessed, the explicit targeting of political opponents, forcing states to redraw congress to consolidate control, and the supermajority in the federal and supreme courts, even people like Ted cruz are saying ‘we are so ****ed if this is standardized and the libtards ever get control and can come back at us’
The logical assumption is that all of this overreach is because the libtards will never get control again to get any kind of theoretical retribution
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Also there’s that idiotic ballroom
Thanks for reminding me we are only in year 1 of this ****. Feels like year 4. My short answer is no Trump will not destroy American government structure totally. Even if he could, I don't think the Repubs are in much danger from the Dems because the Dems have lost too much support with their whole "actually we are corrupt geocidal psychos" routine. I'm someone who knocked on over a thousand doors, easily, between Obama and Sanders campaigns. I'm gone. I'll never vote for a Democrat in a national election as long as I live and I will do anything I can to destroy them because they are an evil abomination. The bad news for Dems isn't my dissatisfaction. It's that, in spite of what my mommy told me, I'm really not that special. If I am feeling this way, then many are. And even if Israel has killed a million Palestinians by then and it's old news, they are never going to release their grip on our government and they are never going to stop destroying Arab and Muslim civilization - they are not settling down anytime soon and it's only a question of when, not if, the Dems will totally implode under their internal contradictions.
Plus, at some point, Trump's got to run out of gas (right?). The Repubs have to run somebody else leading up to the election or else they will tip their hand. I assume that person will refrain from making a VP choice until the excruciating last minute. Normally, had the Dems not debauched themselves for AIPAC, they could beat a Vance or whatever ghoul the Repubs run. Now, the Repubs can run whoever and win. If it looks clear that they are going to win, there will be a lot of Pressure on Trump to not overturn the applecart. I mean, they are getting everything they want. The Dems are cowering in the shadows, because that's what cowards do. None of their authoritarian BS is being challenged sufficiently. Our own Rococo is like "I'm not saying anything on the internet anymore". In the end, I don't think the Christian fascist movement (or their Zionist handlers) is going to want to go through the ordeal of breaking the thing that is working for them just fine. Why take the risk when no one is stopping you from doing whatever you want while things are the way they are?
No way he lives long enough for this to be a problem, if this is a real worry, he is gonna need more wins in midterm election to allow for it, if they want to allow for it.
No. I believe Trump will be removed from the White House.
Unless the rules are changed to lowest voter turnout wins the white house, the democrats probably aren't winning anything until 2036. Vance likely wins and Trump goes home.
If the Dems do win, I do think Trump, if he's still coherent or alive, will try ridiculous measures to stay put. But they will throw his ass out.
I think this or he won't physically be able to finish his Presidency. He has been lucky but the inevitable break down is coming. I say this not only because of his age but also his lack of fitness.
Yeah, plus he's made a lot of enemies and doesn't appear capable of not doing so. Board rooms and C-suites aren't happy with all the chaos he's creating. Then society wise with ICE and next in que:
Ending Radical Indoctrination in K-12 Schooling
Those cuts are going to start kicking in at the end of the year. That's when the teacher firings, curriculum clampdowns, compliance crackdowns, that parent hotline to the DOJ, etc etc etc will start.
I believe for a second that Trump will just leave without a fuss. But that's it. The rest of the seconds and minutes will be him throwing out dumb **** to test the waters and see how many dopes want him to be a permanent president. Something about he'll get rid of the 22nd amendment and then when everyone goes crazy he'll pull the "j/k lol" routine and look for something else.
I believe for a second that Trump will just leave without a fuss. But that's it. The rest of the seconds and minutes will be him throwing out dumb **** to test the waters and see how many dopes want him to be a permanent president. Something about he'll get rid of the 22nd amendment and then when everyone goes crazy he'll pull the "j/k lol" routine and look for something else.
Yeah, I remember after the last go-around some MAGA said Trump would martyr himself and force them to kill him to get him out of the Oval Office. Trump? Getting grazed by an assassin's bullet just made it worse.
Given the poor wording of the poll, I have a clarification question for the OP:
If I believe for five whole seconds that Trump will leave the WH, but after thinking about it for an additional five seconds I conclude that Trump will NOT leave the WH, do I vote YES or NO?
Thanks.
addendum: just noticed that the title of the thread and the poll question are not the same.
Unless the rules are changed to lowest voter turnout wins the white house, the democrats probably aren't winning anything until 2036. Vance likely wins and Trump goes home.
It does seem likely, as long as the Democrats are committed to courting a niche middle-class 'liberal' vote, which is not going to win them any national elections in such a socially conservative country. Part of their problem is that the large 'minorities' they claim to speak for are for the most part socially conservative and do not want supposedly enlightened white saviours telling them what to think.
It does seem likely, as long as the Democrats are committed to courting a niche middle-class 'liberal' vote, which is not going to win them any national elections in such a socially conservative country. Part of their problem is that the large 'minorities' they claim to speak for are for the most part socially conservative and do not want supposedly enlightened white saviours t
I kind of agree with formula72, but only if the DNC’s candidate actually gets the nomination. Bernie almost broke their ranks. Drop the commie label and the fixation on the 1%, and he could have won. Obama pushed healthcare through while people were pulling at him from every angle. He still managed to shoot the gap. A moderate candidate who checks the usual boxes and makes UBI the sole focus could get people to compromise or cross lines. That would seem like it would generate a lot of enthusiasm come the general.
A moderate candidate who checks the usual boxes and makes UBI the sole focus could get people to compromise or cross lines. That would seem like it would generate a lot of enthusiasm come the general.
No major party Presidential candidate is going to run on UBI in a general election. They would get slaughtered with calls of socialism.
Trump is almost 80. I dont think he will have the health to continue after 2028.
This isn't going to be a Erdogan or Putin situation where a democracy gets hijacked for decades by a authoritarian populist strongman. If Trump was 60 all the leftist hysteria would be more justified.
Trump is almost 80. I dont think he will have the health to continue after 2028.
This isn't going to be a Erdogan or Putin situation where a democracy gets hijacked for decades by a authoritarian populist strongman. If Trump was 60 all the leftist hysteria would be more justified.
Why don't you think Vance or possibly some other Republicans couldn't keep the control if they had control over all branches of government and stopped having free and fair elections?
Why don't you think Vance or possibly some other Republicans couldn't keep the control if they had control over all branches of government and stopped having free and fair elections?
Vance does not have the charisma or strength of personality to keep the MAGA cult in line. I dont really see anyone that does. Fuentes has already stated he is opposed to Vance for interracial marriage. Tucker is attacking every Jew in the Party or who has shown alignment to the party.
I dont really see how MAGA Republicans dont collapse in their own hate, ignorance and infighting in a post Trump world.
Vance does not have the charisma or strength of personality to keep the MAGA cult in line. I dont really see anyone that does. Fuentes has already stated he is opposed to Vance for interracial marriage. Tucker is attacking every Jew in the Party or who has shown alignment to the party. I dont really see how MAGA Republicans dont collapse in their own hate, ignorance and inf
But why would they need the support of the cult if they have the congress, the Supreme Court, and the armed forces?
No major party Presidential candidate is going to run on UBI in a general election. They would get slaughtered with calls of socialism.
Assumption 1: The rich keep getting richer.
Assumption 2: Real estate continues to pace equities.
So if you don’t think we’re heading toward a UBI, which one of those assumptions doesn't hold?
Vance does not have the charisma or strength of personality to keep the MAGA cult in line. I dont really see anyone that does. Fuentes has already stated he is opposed to Vance for interracial marriage. Tucker is attacking every Jew in the Party or who has shown alignment to the party.
I'm half expecting that before the post-Trump part. But I don't think it has much to do with their ideology. It's just power and the fact that it corrupts. People acquire it, and especially those who haven't had much of it before, get intoxicated by it and eventually blow themselves up. That's basically Trump and MAGA. Or the radical left. But like with MAGA they're the B team who see themselves as these historically prominent political figures fighting an apocalyptic battle. To me, they just look like a personal injury firm's group photo. So yeah, they're going to blow themselves up too. There's a reason we have to go back 100 years to find examples of when these radical movements didn't do just that. And that always came when a first or second world country, slipped into a second or third. Not really seeing that coming.
do you really believe an 83 year old man is going to be the one to end democracy? he will probably be senile. IT will be someone younger 😀 like maybe this vance guy
Trump is almost 80. I dont think he will have the health to continue after 2028.
This isn't going to be a Erdogan or Putin situation where a democracy gets hijacked for decades by a authoritarian populist strongman. If Trump was 60 all the leftist hysteria would be more justified.
The right is dismantling the constitution and our democracy. Someone will step in.
Will he live that long?
If he does leave he won't leave all this gold behind.
https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=2067311...
Yeah, there’s a little sovereign country called BIS:
population: 63 central banks
economy: 95% of global GDP
sovereignty: answers to no electorate.
The super-wealthy didn’t get super-wealthy by accident. That goes even more so for the domestic economy. People might tolerate a despot if things are going from crappy to okay, but not the other way around. And considering the chaotic way everyone can see he’s attacking the economy - which was doing okay - he can’t blame a global recession or whatever. It’s unmistakably on him.
do you really believe an 83 year old man is going to be the one to end democracy? he will probably be senile. IT will be someone younger 😀 like maybe this vance guy
It's not really Trump it's the Zionists. They don't want us functioning like a sane country because if we were we would intervene and end their genocide and ethnic cleansing projects. We are locked into a 2 party system and the Zionists own both parties and they can inject as much chaos as they want. There isn't a single person in government I've seen who will meaningfully oppose them.
Just think about that for a second. Israel is an entity that is slaughtering children wholesale and they have every member of government siding to give them even more of our money to keep doing so. Zionism is the real terrorist infiltration. The immigrants coming from Mexico trying to build your new deck are not the problem. It's the people buying your politicians and colluding with the Christian fascists who are the foreign infiltration.
Trump is owned by Zionists like the Adelson widow. Thiel too. Sources close to Charlie Kirk, in the wake is his killing, said Trump is actually scared of retaliation from Israel should he not cooperate. They also said Kirk was scared for his life.
If Israel wants to break our government to that extent, they will. If things are going well for them, they won't. If there is a candidate who is opposed to genocide who has any shot of winning, Israel will attempt to destroy our government by keeping Trump in office. But I don't think there is any real chance of that because they already cut that option off so far upstream in the process. No one who opposes the mass slaughter of children is winning any election in this country, so says Israel. If Israel is getting what they want, killing and ethnically cleansing whoever doesn't have Jewish blood within the entire Middle East, then things will remain status quo. Trump or Vance the individuals have little to do with it.
