The assault on the first amendment (and the return of McCarthyism)

The assault on the first amendment (and the return of McCarthyism)

I believe this merits its own thread now. The first amendment is definitely under assault.

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18 September 2025 at 02:13 PM
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by chillrob

Well, it's closer than I would have guessed, but apparently the most recent polling data shows that 51% of Democrats are Christian.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion...

You have to be an idiot to believe that. If you polled any random church you'd find they vote at least 90% Republican. It's not possible to be a Christian and vote Democrat.


So someone on this forum thinks that I'm immoral in what I might find funny, but he is rooting for civil war and complete collapse of society.


by chillrob

As a one-time Christian, I would say that no one who voted for Trump is a real Christian, including Charlie Kirk. Both of them stand completely opposed to everything Jesus said in the Bible. Most of the people who call themselves Christians in this country haven't even read the Bible and have no idea what Jesus preached.

By saying you're a former Christian you have no ground to say what a Christian believes. You'd still be a Christian. It's self refuting.

There's a lot of people who identify as "Christians" who technically aren't on the right and left. I'm Orthodox. We consider all forms of protestants to be heretical as well as Catholics.


by BGnight

You have to be an idiot to believe that. If you polled any random church you'd find they vote at least 90% Republican. It's not possible to be a Christian and vote Democrat.

This is possibly true, yet has nothing to do with what I (and Wikipedia) said.
Logic much? Apparently not.

The second part is just what I figured you must believe.

So, you think that all those people in Black churches in the south who voted for Biden aren't Christians?

Is it because only whites can be Christian?

Do you think the Pope qualifies as an American Christian? He seems to be pretty opposed to Trump's agenda, so it seems unlikely that Trump got his vote.


by chillrob

So someone on this forum thinks that I'm immoral in what I might find funny, but he is rooting for civil war and complete collapse of society.

Never said I was. I don't want civil war. That's insane. It's going to happen. I will take civil war and martial law over a Democrat majority because I know what that will entail. There will probably be civil war no matter who wins next election cycle.


by BGnight

The fact is I think this admin, whether it's inherently evil in it's own right or benevolent, NEEDS to suspend elections to give them time to get rid of NGO's like Soro's Open Society (there's many others). Fabian Socialists are playing a long game to homogenize Europe and the U.S. to destroy it's culture and usher in an Orwellian technocracy. Unfortunately it might happen no m

Funny how you’re so worried about a left-wing technocracy while Peter Thiel has his man on the inside, who actually is using tremendous amounts of tracking data and using that to create reports to the government.

People like you who cheer on fascism are legitimately scary.


by BGnight

By saying you're a former Christian you have no ground to say what a Christian believes. You'd still be a Christian. It's self refuting.

There's a lot of people who identify as "Christians" who technically aren't on the right and left. I'm Orthodox. We consider all forms of protestants to be heretical as well as Catholics.

I know what the Bible says, and how most Christians behave. But sure, that's how you got the other part of your made up definition.

HU 4 ROLLZ in Bible Knowledge??


by chillrob

This is possibly true, yet has nothing to do with what I (and Wikipedia) said.Logic much? Apparently not.The second part is just what I figured you must believe.So, you think that all those people in Black churches in the south who voted for Biden aren't Christians?Is it because only whites can be Christian?Do you think the Pope qualifies as an American Christian? He seems to b

If it's true then your stats are wrong. Identifying as Christian doesn't mean anything if you don't belong to a physical church.

And no, the Pope is a heretic.


by BGnight

Never said I was. I don't want civil war. That's insane. It's going to happen. I will take civil war and martial law over a Democrat majority because I know what that will entail. There will probably be civil war no matter who wins next election cycle.

Yes, you would take millions of deaths in a civil war and collapse of society over a few more Mexicans sneaking into the country and poor people having their health care restored.
Makes sense.


by chillrob

I know what the Bible says, and how most Christians behave. But sure, that's how you got the other part of your made up definition.

HU 4 ROLLZ in Bible Knowledge??

Bro, there's atheist Bible scholars. Gnosticism is the religion based on "knowledge". Being Christain is about prayer, repentence, and holding to God's commandments. Of course, if you don't have sound Christology and trinitarian theology you're not Christian.


by BGnight

If it's true then your stats are wrong. Identifying as Christian doesn't mean anything if you don't belong to a physical church.

And no, the Pope is a heretic.

If any member of the Orthodox church voted for Biden, that by itself means they aren't Christian? Because I guarantee plenty of them have.

Or are you a member of some lone extreme "Orthodox" church which doesn't really share the beliefs of the standard vanilla Orthodox churches?

You religious extremists are pretty entertaining until you commit mass suicide or drop planes on buildings.

Actually, I take that back. The mass suicides are kinda fun. We could use another Jim Jones.


by chillrob

Yes, you would take millions of deaths in a civil war and collapse of society over a few more Mexicans sneaking into the country and poor people having their health care restored.
Makes sense.

Mexicans and health care? What are you talking about??

I don't think NGO's sending tens of millions to invade the country is equal to a "few Mexicans".


by chillrob

If any member of the Orthodox church voted for Biden, that by itself means they aren't Christian? Because I guarantee plenty of them have.Or are you a member of some lone extreme "Orthodox" church which doesn't really share the beliefs of the standard vanilla Orthodox churches?You religious extremists are pretty entertaining until you commit mass suicide or drop planes on build

Orthodoxy is the second largest Church in the world next to Catholicism. And if someone votes Biden it's because they have given priority to worldly concerns over Christ.

Name one Orthodox mass suicide or terrorist attack in history. Don't confuse us with Islam.


by BGnight

Bro, there's atheist Bible scholars. Gnosticism is the religion based on "knowledge". Being Christain is about prayer, repentence, and holding to God's commandments. Of course, if you don't have sound Christology and trinitarian theology you're not Christian.

Um, yes, I didn't claim to be a Christian. I am an atheist amateur Bible scholar, and I know that most people who even do the things you mention don't follow the actual teachings of Christ?

Who would Jesus vote for?


by BGnight

Orthodoxy is the second largest Church in the world next to Catholicism. And if someone votes Biden it's because they have given priority to worldly concerns over Christ.

Name one Orthodox mass suicide or terrorist attack in history. Don't confuse us with Islam.

You don't think it could be because Biden is a decent (and Christian) man, while Trump is demonstrably a greedy, lazy, prideful, angry, gluttonous, envious, lustful, and blasphemous, technically human organism?

I can't name any of those, because they likely haven't ever happened.
There's a first time for everything though, and you definitely seem like you could be the one to do it.


In a weird way I’m kinda impressed with fgators’ capacity for spewing completely made up and unhinged bullshit


by StoppedRainingMen

In a weird way I’m kinda impressed with fgators’ capacity for spewing completely made up and unhinged bullshit

same sentiment to all the unhinged libtards ITT.


by chillrob

You don't think it could be because Biden is a decent (and Christian) man, while Trump is demonstrably a greedy, lazy, prideful, angry, gluttonous, envious, lustful, and blasphemous, technically human organism?I can't name any of those, because they likely haven't ever happened.There's a first time for everything though, and you definitely seem like you could be the one to do i

Christ is against the murder of millions of innocent babies. Pretty much trumps any other political reasons. And Biden is a demonic pedophile...so there's that.


by BGnight

Never said I was. I don't want civil war. That's insane. It's going to happen. I will take civil war and martial law over a Democrat majority because I know what that will entail. There will probably be civil war no matter who wins next election cycle.

Well our actual enemies will sure appreciate that. So how would that work, we all wear red or blue hats and start shooting on site?


by John21

Well our actual enemies will sure appreciate that. So how would that work, we all wear red or blue hats and start shooting on site?

A modern civil war would be very nuanced and complicated. We're not going to line up in a field with muskets moron.


by BGnight

Well, of course I'd prefer the latter but I'll take demented Hitler Trump over another Bolshevik revolution.

but we don't have to take demented trump. the cabinet can use the 25th at any time, which is what democrat enemies of the country didn't do with Biden. trump cabinet could, and a normal decent right-wing person in full possession of his mental abilities could be president.

and 3 years of Vance could and should be used to use the full power of the state against the communist enemies of the state and purge them for good. which trump is never going to do because of his naps in the afternoon and his love of golf, do you follow this?

we need someone who spends every minute he is awake using the full legal power of the state to cleanse the domestic enemies from the country


by BGnight

Christ is against the murder of millions of innocent babies. Pretty much trumps any other political reasons. And Biden is a demonic pedophile...so there's that.

Sure, Christ is also against people eating shellfish and pork. Every sin is equal in the eyes of God.


by checkraisdraw

Sure, Christ is also against people eating shellfish and pork. Every sin is equal in the eyes of God.

the God of the old testament is. not sure about Christ (if he ever existed).

regardless, Muslims are against pork so decent people are in favor


by Luciom

the God of the old testament is. not sure about Christ (if he ever existed).

regardless, Muslims are against pork so decent people are in favor

He is, it’s nuanced. Because humans are so evil and wretched their only hope of salvation is through Jesus. It’s the parable of the rich man who asked him how to go to heaven. Keep all the laws to perfection and you will go to heaven. It’s an ask no one can fulfill, so the statement is meant to be absurd. That’s the orthodox (small o) view of sin.


by checkraisdraw

He is, it’s nuanced. Because humans are so evil and wretched their only hope of salvation is through Jesus. It’s the parable of the rich man who asked him how to go to heaven. Keep all the laws to perfection and you will go to heaven. It’s an ask no one can fulfill, so the statement is meant to be absurd. That’s the orthodox (small o) view of sin.

that's actually leftism (more precisely bureaucracy). they write impossible rules then it's your turn. that was the genesis of the horror.

Christianity is the source of most of our problems and everything the west did and accomplished was in direct opposition to christianism.

and when we criticize Islam it's for the same reason. how the hell didn't you drop all of it already in 2025? all religions are utter trash, and all human accomplishment came from outright discarding religion and moving forward from it.

given how costly and terrible it was to do that for us, we should really not redo it, which is why we should never let anyone in our countries who didn't credibly discard all of his religion as utter indefensible trash.

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