Forward Motion rule 3 ways with a dry side pot
I was in a hand 3 ways (PLO).
CO raises 30 preflop, I call button, BB calls.
Flop was 6c 7c 9d
BB checks, CO bets 100 I c
He truly believes he has been correct. This is from another thread where he references a 3rd thread. (One I suspect you have seen). ..."Putting your cards face up and therefore in view of the camera in the sky is never a bad thing in this situation. Someone is all in after all and the betting is finished. I made some good points about this in another thread and
yes, on the felt face up beside your stack.
I had the chips in my hand and yes, I was considering putting them out there. It was probably a subconscious body language thing going on there.; I didn't actually push my chips forward. I was holding my chips out as if I was considering a call or a fold. I don't think that's a lesson I'll soon forget as that was a pretty expensive call.I've been doing it a lot preflop, but
No other dealer might've mentioned it yet because it sounds like it's similar to the string bet rule where the dealer doesn't call it out, the opponent decides if he wants to call it out.
Also Last Frontier in La Center, WA. It may be a state rule.
But backstairs isn't actually wrong in saying over the line is always a bet.
That is true in every room, as it is impossible to put chips over the line without also moving them forward.
Also Last Frontier in La Center, WA. It may be a state rule.
But backstairs isn't actually wrong in saying over the line is always a bet.
That is true in every room, as it is impossible to put chips over the line without also moving them forward.
Actually he is wrong. The rule at the two rooms here with a line is RELEASED over the line. Can still play the motion dance all night long over the line, in the air or sliding on the felt until the chips are released it means nothing.
Now I hate the rule but it is literally published on the wall in writing with the word "released"
So in these 2 rooms, w/o a hard line but with a line, forward motion even over the line has no meaning.
Even in hard line rooms, yes you have to move the chips forward to cross the line, but you can still angle with the push them right up to the line or do the only forward/back chip dance behind the line. The point there being it isn't the forward motion that is committing the chips it is the line (and in the bad local rule the line plus the release).
1. Not everywhere. As noted, 2 local rooms have a RELEASED over the line rule. Can move chips forward even beyond the line and they are still not committed.
2. Even in hard line rules, like appear in WA, it is not the forward motion it is crossing the line. This is a known angle where chips can clearly be moved forward but shy of the line, the cards exposed and the non-angling opponent exposes a wining hand, the angler simply mucks while pulling chips back. Since even though there was obvious forward motion the chips were never committed.
In a betting line rule, it is not the forward motion but crossing the line (and in some rooms releasing the chips) that is key. Yes the chips move forward but forward motion alone is not enough a line (at least) must be crossed. Since the line is not equidistance from the players, how far moved forward is not the rule.
You probably are correct about the official rule, but but I have played a lot in both of the Washington rooms mentioned and
1 - I've never seen anyone try to pull the angle you mentioned
2 - I have seen (too many times to count) chips moved forward and released without having crossed the line, and that being treated by everyone as a legitimate bet.
I have also played in some rooms where moving the chips across the line was an bet, regardless of whether or not they have been released. The rule, as explained to me, was that the chips were considered to be in the pot as soon as the crossed the plane that would be parallel to the table along the line.
But backstairs isn't actually wrong in saying over the line is always a bet.
That is true in every room, as it is impossible to put chips over the line without also moving them forward.
It is impossible for six points to be added to the scoreboard after a single play unless a touchdown is scored, therefore a touchdown is when six points are added to the scoreboard after a single play.
Correction: It is impossible for a touchdown to have occurred without the ball being advanced.
Well, the ball could be going backwards on a fumble...
Actually he is wrong. The rule at the two rooms here with a line is RELEASED over the line. Can still play the motion dance all night long over the line, in the air or sliding on the felt until the chips are released it means nothing. Now I hate the rule but it is literally published on the wall in writing with the word "released"So in these 2 rooms, w/o a hard line but with a
You might get away with that once but you'd get a warning. Wouldn't be happening again.
It seems the rule is either 1.over the line. 2 released .
