NL10 - JJ facing check/raise
This was played on coinpoker NL10 - 7 handed. This HH wasn't tracked, so was written from pure memory.
Effective stacks 100bb
Preflop
Hero in CO opens to 2.5bb w/J♠J♣
Villain in BB 3bets to 9.5bb
Hero calls
Pot 19.5bb
Flop 7♥2♣3♠
Villain checks
Hero bets 5.65bb
Villain calls
Pot 30.8bb
Turn 6♦
Villain checks
Hero bets 16.94bb
Villain raises to 40bb
Hero???????
8 Replies
Preflop I would have made a 4b, but call is obv also fine. I'm not folding the turn, because folding overpairs in a 3BP will make you really easy to exploit.
Preflop I would have made a 4b, but call is obv also fine. I'm not folding the turn, because folding overpairs in a 3BP will make you really easy to exploit.
I agree but i want to add here that we are playing NL10 and i dont think we should give villains at theese stakes the credit of taking notes and exploiting our foldrates on turns in 3BP.
In my experience most players at theese stake dont bluff all that much in theese spots.
I would assume our hero is up against a very narrow range that includes very few bluffs.
Id really consider folding unless i have notes and reads on villain assuming he or she is on AA, KK, QQ. Maaaaybe missed AK AQ.
But id say thats would be the only thing we beat in villains range.
Id say fold and just dont worry about being exploited in 3BP on NL10.
I agree but i want to add here that we are playing NL10 and i dont think we should give villains at theese stakes the credit of taking notes and exploiting our foldrates on turns in 3BP.In my experience most players at theese stake dont bluff all that much in theese spots.I would assume our hero is up against a very narrow range that includes very few bluffs.Id really consider
Do ppl really play qq+ this way?
Only reads I had was probably high 3b% (i think).
I pretty much pure 4-b JJ at 10NL in my current strategy. I call turn and call down most rivers except maybe an A. If he has high 3b% then he has more potential bluffs which makes this an easier call. If he takes this line with 99/TT/AK/AQ then it’s an easy call. I also disagree with the notion that 10NL players 3bet so tight that it’s only value and are incapable of bluffing in these spots. That doesn’t seem to be the case anymore. If we were talking 1/2 live then sure, but without specific data points on villain to suggest otherwise then assume he has at least some bluffs.
I would’ve had a few differences but close enough for government work as far as what to do on the turn……. Begrudgingly call with extreme protest and whining.
If you fold JJ on a board like that you end up overfolding. It's not a fist-pump-call on the turn and we should expect to be coolered quite some time, but I can see some bluffs here from Villain and overplayed hands which we beat.
Only arguement for folding is that Villain shows strength on a board which hugely favours us. We have all the sets, straight and 2pair.
Spoiler
I ended up shoving in game
he tank folded
while he was tanking, he was typing in chat saying how i have 66
how he only has a bluff catcher
it's like he's folding better
yet at the same time it's not possible for him to fold qq+ right?
I mean I rather believe him folding 88~TT, 7x 6x than folding qq+
Flop + turn bets are good, but once he check/raises turn it’s gross. That line is super strong at NL10, usually sets or overpairs slowplaying. You’re crushed a ton, so I’d just fold and move on.
