"The Pen:" Live NLHE Chat Thread

"The Pen:" Live NLHE Chat Thread

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29 November 2019 at 06:28 PM
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I would be open to another manual if I ever move away from the city. Manuals and stop and go traffic are a dealbreaker for me now, though.


many people said that to me when i was getting it. i drive in enough stop and go traffic and it's not really a huge deal imo.


by RoadtoPro

What was the first car you learned to drive stick on, and do you still remember that experience?

Who taught you how to drive stick, and what was that learning curve like?

I took some manual transmission driving lessons when I first got my drivers license at age 16, I think that was an old honda accord but couldnt say for sure.

Later in 2007 I bought a 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5 with a manual transmission. Refined my skills on that. It takes a couple hours to get the hang of it, then maybe a few more weeks to get really comfortable with things like driving in traffic or parallel parking on a hill.


My current Rav4 is the first automatic transmission car I've ever owned - learned to drive on a stick trans and never wanted an auto. I still occasionally find myself reaching for the clutch with my left foot 😀


by RoadtoPro

What was the first car you learned to drive stick on, and do you still remember that experience?

Who taught you how to drive stick, and what was that learning curve like?

early 80s bmw in the mid 1990s, so it was like 10+ years old and not in great condition.

it was my sister's car and she taught me the basics when i was like 14, she was like 19. driving age in my state was 16 for a permit, and 17 for a license, so it was massively illegal when she let me drive through our neighborhood but i had been driving forklifts for like 2ish years at that point (our dad taught us both to drive on forklifts at a family business when it was closed), so i knew how to drive in general, at least how to steer, accellerate and brake while looking at where i was going.

most vivid memory i have of it was i almost hit a tree in my front yard coming in hot while trying to park in the driveway. no fault of her teaching, all me giving it too much gas trying not to stall. my dad taught me while she was at college.

i dont think there was much of a learning curve, but its really person dependant. i'll have a better idea in about 4 years when my kid is learning to drive.


by marknfw

I would be open to another manual if I ever move away from the city. Manuals and stop and go traffic are a dealbreaker for me now, though.

Nut low manual trans story: Driving Phx -> SD,Ca on I-8. CBP checkpoint on I-8 heading into SD County (east of Alpine, top of the hill). There's about a 1 mile backup. I had to move forward one (or less!) car-length at a time up hill. My clutch leg was screaming at me. Requires good hand e-brake/clutch/gas feathering to get up the hill.

Second nut low: I-5 from SD -> Sacramento thru eL lAy at rush hour. At least it wasn't uphill the whole way.

Honorable mention: Driving around SF

I'm about 75/25 manual vs auto trans over ~300k miles, not counting 50k on motorcycles. Current is auto, and am considering going back, if I can find the right deal.


by RoadtoPro

What was the first car you learned to drive stick on, and do you still remember that experience?

1980 Toyota diesel p/u 4 banger, underpowered POS. Drove that HS/college (~8 years) and put probably 180k on it.

Who taught you how to drive stick, and what was that learning curve like?

Parents were both responsible. AzFather1 thought he knew what he was doing, but I just couldn't get it right with him in the car. Stalling, over-reving, whatever, I was doing it wrongly. Try again a day later with MtMother1 and it's smooth as silk. I think this reflects more on my relationships with them then their abilities to teach.

As a yut I used to shift for my mom when we were doing errands around town. Somehow, that 70's Corolla lasted almost 300k between my parents and my older brother.


dad bought a new ford festiva in the early 90s when he was on sabbatical because we only had 1 car and that was cheaper than renting


didn't even have a radio - was the most bare boned car ever

but it was fun to drive and learned to drive on that car

had it down but whenever i took it out i'd stall occasionally until one day i had no choice other than to use it and during that trial by fire managed to figure it out

and yes, i was terrified of hitting a stoplight going up a hill


by JackInDaCrak

I took some manual transmission driving lessons when I first got my drivers license at age 16, I think that was an old honda accord but couldnt say for sure.Later in 2007 I bought a 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5 with a manual transmission. Refined my skills on that. It takes a couple hours to get the hang of it, then maybe a few more weeks to get really comfortable with things like d

Sister Walking refused to scrap her 92 Accord. It takes [me] a couple hours to get out of the driveway.

by jrrdesert

My current Rav4 is the first automatic transmission car I've ever owned - learned to drive on a stick trans and never wanted an auto. I still occasionally find myself reaching for the clutch with my left foot 😀

The replacement Deadmobile is a Rav4. I fell in love because of another relic tech, the seat moves back with a lever instead of an unnecessary electric car seat.


by rickroll

and yes, i was terrified of hitting a stoplight going up a hill

Then the terror ratchets up a notch when the jackass behind you pulls up to about a foot behind your rear bumper, lol.


by marknfw

Then the terror ratchets up a notch when the jackass behind you pulls up to about a foot behind your rear bumper, lol.

omg, the ptsd you're giving me 😀


My friend in high school tried to teach me to drive a clutch in his 73 Camaro. An old rustbucket, barely had a clutch. I didn't quite get it that day, but got the idea.

When I bought my first car (73 VW Beetle), I just showed up with that level of clutchiness. I did fine, that was really easy to drive.

On the hill thing, some years back I was helping some coworkers move. They were ahead of me in the uphill left-turn lane in the big Ryder or UHaul or whatever it was. Each time Julie went to move, she got closer and closer to my front bumper.

This was down in Denver, so there's traffic. Shortly, a line of cars built up behind us, and I can't really go back much more.

I don't remember how we got out of that situation, but we did without harm.


My mom's car was an early 70s Corolla that we called "the battle trap." You usually had to spray starter fluid into the carburetor to get it going, and it had about 10-20 degrees of play in the steering wheel. Of course it was a manual.


Mom taught my sister and me to drive when we were ~12, by taking us to drive in the cemetery, on the theory that 1) It wasn't a public road, so totally legal (hmm) and 2) Anyone we were likely to hit was dead already. Being able to drive that POS on tiny roads had me pretty much ready for anything by the time I got my learner's permit.


My first was a 68 Cougar. 3 speed 289. I loved that car, but my god was it trashed by the time I got through with it.


I learned in my mother’s Mazda 323 Stretchback. Manual obvs as basically all cars were then.

It was awesome having a wagon as it meant I could change my mind and drink and then sleep the night in the back of the car and I kept a sleeping bag and pillow in the back for just that purpose

Also had the standard sticker ‘Passion Wagon. (Don’t laugh, your daughter’s in here)’


by marknfw

My first was a 68 Cougar. 3 speed 289. I loved that car, but my god was it trashed by the time I got through with it.

a ride with a 68 model Cougar is what us single fellas dream of


I also learned on a standard. Family had some sort of stationwagon as well as an import little truck.

Learned to drive on all the mostly deserted dirt roads out back of the lake out of town where we lived. Would unintentionally freak me and my mom out when I got a little too overconfident only to then skid on a patch of loose gravel on a tight corner every now and again.

Still remember my dad taking me downtown to practice stops signs and all that stuff with the little truck. Come to a 4way stop with cars in each direction with me having the right of way, but I'm a little nervous with the standard. I kinda awkwardly chug it forward but **** up the releasing of the clutch, so it bounces up and down violently in the intersection for a bit before finally sputtering out. All the other drivers and my dad had a good laugh at my expense.

GstoopiddowntownswiththeirstoopidstopsignsG


"Its called drifting, not skidding, mom!"


Heart attack Niners strike again. Seems like every game takes a year off my life.


Hey all you Colorado guys. I'm giving away a used Yamaha upright piano. Anyone have interest?


by Garick

Heart attack Niners strike again. Seems like every game takes a year off my life.

seahawks teaser still good though 😀


by King Spew

Hey all you Colorado guys. I'm giving away a used Yamaha upright piano. Anyone have interest?

King-having just donated one, and since you are posting this in here I’m sure you are aware-it can be hard to find a home for a piano, even one as nice as a Yamaha

We were eventually happy to find a talented young person without the means and through the school district managed to get it properly moved….i would reach out to the local districts or the Beethoven Foundation


Ditto. We found a home for our old one when it could no longer be tuned to A=440hz. It could still be tuned to itself, but as a multi-instrumentalist that drove my wife crazy. So we gave it to someone in our non-profit group who had a kid who was starting lessons.

Then we served as the new home for a different piano from a work colleague, who got it when he bought a house and the previous owner left it. It's in much better shape.


Visited Calgary this past weekend and got a chance to sneak away for a bit and add 2 poker room chips to my collection, up to 32 now. One room was a time travel room that only featured limit games, so I played my first 4/8 (with kill) Limit game in over a dozen years, lol @ me, ldo.

GcluelesspokerroomsnoobG


Pianos are not bottles of wine, they're machines. They don't grow finer with age but need more maintenance.

Pianos are like wineries; secretly they're all for sale.

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