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President Donald Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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Thank goodness the cracker barrel disaster has been fixed. Now, on to the next utterly stupid thing.


I mean, it was obvious this was coming, but I'll post it anyway

The Federal Emergency Management Agency on Tuesday placed several employees on administrative leave effective immediately, just one day after they signed an open letter warning Congress that the Trump administration’s sweeping overhaul of the agency could lead to catastrophic failures in disaster response.


Bets on whether anything happens to these guys?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/4-u...

Legal proceedings for four Army soldiers charged in connection with the sexual assault of a college student in an Army barracks began this month, a spokesperson for the military branch said.

The four were charged in April in connection with an Oct. 27 incident in barracks at Joint Base Lewis-McChord, southwest of Tacoma, Washington.


Nothing to see here

President Donald Trump signed an executive order Monday tasking his secretary of defense, Pete Hegseth, with establishing “specialized units” in the National Guard that will be “specifically trained and equipped to deal with public order issues” — the clearest sign yet he intends to expand the US military’s role in domestic law enforcement activities across the country.


by Rococo

Huh? Did you mean "isn't out of hand"?

In any case, according to this chart, in 2024, Chicago and New York were both outside the top 60 U.S. cities in violent crime per 100,000 residents. New York was outside the top 100 in both total crimes per 100,000 residents and homicide rates per 100,000 residents.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Un...

Yeah sorry "isn't"

Statistics are great when everyone reports crimes. The reality is many folks choose not to report as you can not get a cop to show up thanks to the defund the police in many liberal cities .

I lived in a large city in Canada were it was the same thing people only report crimes if they need an insurance report . Of course murders will be reported

How many folks got murdered in Chicago this weekend? How many were innocent bystanders like the 5 year old child shot in the head


Exactly why do we have a cabinet?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/mont...

The video includes footage of Labor Secretary Lori Chavez-DeRemer inviting Trump “to see your big, beautiful face on a banner in front of the Department of Labor, because you are really the transformational president of the American worker”; Trump’s Middle East envoy, Steve Witkoff, saying serving under Trump is “the greatest honor of my life”; and Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent declaring, “Our country has never been so secure thanks to you,” adding that Trump “brought us back from the edge.”


by lozen

Statistics are great when everyone reports crimes. The reality is many folks choose not to report as you can not get a cop to show up thanks to the defund the police in many liberal cities.

So you’re just making stuff up, then? This is pure feelings over facts.


by whatthejish

So you’re just making stuff up, then? This is pure feelings over facts.

standard right wing nonsense


by lozen

Yeah sorry "isn't" Statistics are great when everyone reports crimes. The reality is many folks choose not to report as you can not get a cop to show up thanks to the defund the police in many liberal cities .I lived in a large city in Canada were it was the same thing people only report crimes if they need an insurance report . Of course murders will be reported How many folks

Ok. You should just admit that you don't care about facts. You have absolutely no evidence that crime, much less violent crime, is less likely to be reported in New York or Chicago than it is in Memphis, Little Rock, or any other city. I doubt this is true, and I would be shocked if it were true at a material level.

You also would do well to remember that most "red-state" cities vote blue. Memphis residents went overwhelmingly against Trump in each of the three elections.


by biggerboat

standard right wing nonsense

btw, this is exactly why they are gutting government agencies and tossing out science left and right.


by whatthejish

So you’re just making stuff up, then? This is pure feelings over facts.

What am I making up? That folks do not report crimes ?

I have acknowledged that other cities have a higher per capita murder rate and yes stats say crime overall has decreased in many left cities

The reality is if you had 200 murders in 2023 and it dropped to 176 in 2024 yes the murder rate declined nut you still have a murder problem .


by lozen

What am I making up? That folks do not report crimes ?

I have acknowledged that other cities have a higher per capita murder rate and yes stats say crime overall has decreased in many left cities

The reality is if you had 200 murders in 2023 and it dropped to 176 in 2024 yes the murder rate declined nut you still have a murder problem .

You obviously are making up that underreporting occurs more frequently in New York and Chicago than it does in cities in red states. You don't like the stats so you invented an excuse to believe that your feels were more accurate than the stats.

Honestly, you should just walk that **** back and move on down the road. That was one of the least persuasive things i have ever seen you post in this forum.


Intuitively, it also seems improbable that a significant percentage of homicides in large urban areas go unreported and unrecorded. No matter what you saw on The Wire or on Goodfellas, making a body disappear in a large urban area wouldn't be easy. If you stab a guy in a nightclub, shoot up a street corner, or strangle your girlfriend in a 10th floor apartment, that body isn't going to disappear.



Loved the part of the recent discussion where people are trying to pretend that "red state X has higher per capita murder rate than Y blue city" is somehow not a targeted dig at republicans.

Luciom points out the clear and obvious reality that it's the blue cities in those red states ****ing up the statewide statistics. "Of course, nobody was denying that."

Uh huh. Sure.

The website 24/7 Wall St. reported that 2020 FBI data for violent crime — murder, rape, robbery and aggravated assault — showed Milwaukee had 1,597 violent crimes for every 100,000 people, compared to 399 incidents per 100,000 nationwide.

By that metric Milwaukee’s rate is 300% higher.

“But it’s not really fair to compare a large city to the national rate, which will also include suburbs and rural areas, so it’s not a statistic that is particularly meaningful on its own,” said University of Pennsylvania professor Aaron Chalfin.

Nothing to see here, folks. It's not fair to judge a city against the suburbs because... reasons.


by Rococo

You obviously are making up that underreporting occurs more frequently in New York and Chicago than it does in cities in red states. You don't like the stats so you invented an excuse to believe that your feels were more accurate than the stats.Honestly, you should just walk that **** back and move on down the road. That was one of the least persuasive things i have ever seen

Cities that defunded the police I guarantee you see less reporting . I am not saying crime does not go unreported in the cities in red states as well

I personally had a knife pulled on me in a liquor store as I stood in front of a guy that was stealing booze and told him you got top pay for that. He put down his bag and pulled out a knife and stuck it in my face and said move. I moved . I than said to the clerk do you want me to stick around for the cops? His reply we do not call the cops anymore its a cost of doing business . He said it happens two to three times a day . That was in a liberal CDN city that defunded the police because of Floyd


by lozen

Cities that defunded the police I guarantee you see less reporting . I am not saying crime does not go unreported in the cities in red states as well I personally had a knife pulled on me in a liquor store as I stood in front of a guy that was stealing booze and told him you got top pay for that. He put down his bag and pulled out a knife and stuck it in my face and said move.

Chicago and New York defunded the police? NYC alone has like 40k officers and the biggest police budget in the country by line 3x. The current mayor is a ex-cop. Chicago has like 12K cops.

Can we get a list of cities you consider to have defunded the police?


by lozen

Cities that defunded the police I guarantee you see less reporting . I am not saying crime does not go unreported in the cities in red states as well I personally had a knife pulled on me in a liquor store as I stood in front of a guy that was stealing booze and told him you got top pay for that. He put down his bag and pulled out a knife and stuck it in my face and said move.

You think Eric Adams defunded the NYPD? LOL. Just making up facts as you go along.

I also love how your anecdotal conversation with a liquor store clerk in a city in a different country gives you insight into comparative levels of underreporting of crime in U.S. cities, including the city where I have lived for decades.


by lozen

Cities that defunded the police I guarantee you see less reporting .

I guarantee that you know perfectly well no city "defunded the police" and you're just shamelessly lying like always.


by Rococo

I also love how your anecdotal conversation with a liquor store clerk in a city in a different country gives you insight into comparative levels of underreporting of crime in U.S. cities, including the city where I have lived for decades.

Also notice that lozen is the one who escalated the situation. He tried to physically prevent someone from exiting a building and quickly discovered he's not the tough guy he thinks he is.


by Rococo
by lozen

What am I making up? That folks do not report crimes ? I have acknowledged that other cities have a higher per capita murder rate and yes stats say crime overall has decreased in many left cities The reality is if you had 200 murders in 2023 and it dropped to 176 in 2024 yes the murder rate declined nut you still have a murder problem .

You obviously are making up that underrepo

You really think crime isnt less reported when it's gang banger on gang banger in a gang city? You must be living in another reality dude.


by GTO2.0

Chicago and New York defunded the police? NYC alone has like 40k officers and the biggest police budget in the country by line 3x. The current mayor is a ex-cop. Chicago has like 12K cops.

Can we get a list of cities you consider to have defunded the police?

I understand the need on the left to memoryhole their worst excesses and policy horrors. They did the same for the atrocities of covid mismanagement, for the obscenities of wokism in academia and so on.

Austin (another blue city in a red state) cut the police budget by 1/3 2020-21 vs 2019-2020

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021...

How Austin is spending police funds
Austin, Texas, has made some of the most dramatic changes in the country, directly cutting roughly $20m from the police department, and moving $80m from the agency by shifting certain services out of law enforcement. The city has gone from spending 40% of its $1.1bn general fund on police to now allocating about 26% to law enforcement.

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This is what happened


In the link you can find 20+ cities that cut police funding IN NOMINAL TERMS (keep in mind that given inflation, that means very significant real cuts)


by Trolly McTrollson

I guarantee that you know perfectly well no city "defunded the police" and you're just shamelessly lying like always.

Lol omg, the infinite bad faith


by lozen

Cities that defunded the police I guarantee you see less reporting . I am not saying crime does not go unreported in the cities in red states as well I personally had a knife pulled on me in a liquor store as I stood in front of a guy that was stealing booze and told him you got top pay for that. He put down his bag and pulled out a knife and stuck it in my face and said move.

What Canadian city defunded the police? Don't recall any cities in Canada defunding the police....


by Pablito

What Canadian city defunded the police? Don't recall any cities in Canada defunding the police....

It's funny because lozen is right for the USA (a lot of cities *actually* defunded the police, although not Chicago nor NYC) while he got persuaded by propaganda in Canada, where despite a lot of talking during the floyd riots, no city defunded the police.

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protests gained traction across the world, including Canada, as did calls to "defund the police."

An Ipsos survey that year showed more than 50 per cent of Canadians supported the idea.

But not everyone saw eye-to-eye on what that phrase meant. Some said it meant budget cuts and reinvestment in other community social programs, while others believed police forces should be completely disassembled.

Regardless, a Concordia University associate professor says the research he's conducted indicates that no major Canadian city police department has had its funding reduced since 2020.

"They've all increased their police budgets, but we can see some differences in the rate of increase before 2020 and after 2020," said Ted Rutland, associate professor of geography, planning and environment.


by Luciom

It's funny because lozen is right for the USA (a lot of cities *actually* defunded the police, although not Chicago nor NYC) while he got persuaded by propaganda in Canada, where despite a lot of talking during the floyd riots, no city defunded the police./protests gained traction across the world, including Canada, as did calls to "defund the police."An Ipsos survey that year

I know. I'm Canadian. Just curious what city he was going to come up with.

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