President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
thoughts?
“A lot of people are saying maybe we’d like a dictator,” Trump then asserted, before claiming he doesn’t want a dictatorship. “I’m not a dictator,” he said. “I’m a man with common sense and a smart person.”
It’s fascinating (see: depressing) to watch trump normalize his insanity with the way you boil a frog
All of this **** has been so gradual and consistent for 9 ****ing years I don’t think people truly recognize just how far gone and beyond the pale we truly are today
They recognize it but they use cheap rhetorical tricks to constantly deflect and downplay the reality
Its not their fault for enabling this fascist **** every step of the way, its trans peoples faults and libs and whoever. Literally anyone but themselves
Its as fascinating as it is infuriating
Maybe just go ahead and just directly state your point and stop thinking you’re cute with these clickbait gotchas you worthless ****hole
Maybe just go ahead and just directly state your point and stop thinking you’re cute with these clickbait gotchas you worthless ****hole
I already stated my point on the topic. I don't think it's good for the US gvmnt to own stakes in private companies (it should be illegal without exceptions even in war).
I think it was bad when Bush did it. I think it was bad when Obama did it. And i think it's bad now that Trump does it.
BUT, i think that it is strictly better to own a 10bln equity stake (even if it's bad) that yo give 10 bln to a company.
Do you disagree with the fact that american taxpayers are strictly, pareto better off with 10bln in equity than 10 bln in grants to intel?
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I already stated my point on the topic. I don't think it's good for the US gvmnt to own stakes in private companies (it should be illegal without exceptions even in war).I think it was bad when Bush did it. I think it was bad when Obama did it. And i think it's bad now that Trump does it.BUT, i think that it is strictly better to own a 10bln equity stake (even if it's bad) that
You get that those 10 billions are borrowed money ?
So is it great for Americans to borrow another 10 billions on top of 35 trillions , giving tax cut for those same rich corporations that will increase the deficit while getting government services and Medicaid being cut ?
I let you guess ….
but democrats do lie all the times anyway. like when they claimed biological men don't have an advantage vs women in sports. or when they claimed the Ukraine war had no impact on inflation.
or when they called an increase in deficit "inflation reduction act" lol.
given they do already lie all the times about everything, they should lie where it works
lol yes.
To claim that false equivalence again ….
You get that those 10 billions are borrowed money ?
So is it great for Americans to borrow another 10 billions on top of 35 trillions , giving tax cut for those same rich corporations that will increase the deficit while getting government services and Medicaid being cut ?
I let you guess ….
Follow me please: congress, in it's "infinite wisdom", gave 7 billion in grants to Intel (can't remember if it was in the chips act, or the inflation reduction act, anyway one of the democrat trifecta acts).
Then more recently, in secret, a department of defense secret project gave them 3 billion more.
Now those 10 billions were already going there, to Intel, for them to spend with a big nice **** you to taxpayers ok? because of the infinite wisdom of congress and Biden DoD.
Trump somehow managed (not even sure if that was legal? ) to re-route those 10 billions which *were going to be wasted in the pockets of intel stockholders* as an equity stake. All american taxpayers are better off than they would have been if the infinitely wise will of congress and the very smart Biden admin had been followed.
Is it good? no. It would be better to never have a single dollar sent to an american company by the gvmnt, no matter what. But that's not the world we live in. Democrats want to help companies, republicans want to help companies.
So in a world where politics shovels a lot of billions toward companies AS A CERTAINTY, it's better if the gvmnt keeps an equity stake, that it can cash out of if things go well in the future, instead that if it is a pure gift.
It's absurd not to agree tbh
Follow me please: congress, in it's "infinite wisdom", gave 7 billion in grants to Intel (can't remember if it was in the chips act, or the inflation reduction act, anyway one of the democrat trifecta acts).Then more recently, in secret, a department of defense secret project gave them 3 billion more.Now those 10 billions were already going there, to Intel, for them to spend wi
It’s just awesome to borrow money , invest in the stock market being at all time high .
When a crash comes I’m sure intel will do just fine ..
Those stock option holders will love to sell those options when the company dies stock buyback again and make great profits .
Another socialist policy by trump and the far right hating liberal and socialism loves him for it .
Ps: equity is the weakest form of ownership in a company ….
but democrats do lie all the times anyway. like when they claimed biological men don't have an advantage vs women in sports. or when they claimed the Ukraine war had no impact on inflation.
or when they called an increase in deficit "inflation reduction act" lol.
given they do already lie all the times about everything, they should lie where it works
Exactly which Democrats made these claims?
Follow me please: congress, in it's "infinite wisdom", gave 7 billion in grants to Intel (can't remember if it was in the chips act, or the inflation reduction act, anyway one of the democrat trifecta acts).Then more recently, in secret, a department of defense secret project gave them 3 billion more.Now those 10 billions were already going there, to Intel, for them to spend wi
No. Never. Make it loan or pull funding all together. Don't extort a company into giving you a stake into their company so you continue funding research you wanted to do in the US to begin with.
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Is it good? no. It would be better to never have a single dollar sent to an american company by the gvmnt, no matter what. But that's not the world we live in. Democrats want to help companies, republicans want to help companies.
It's been happening since the days of the founders. Maybe this isn't the country for you.
It would be pretty sweet if every government subsidy purchased a percentage of the company. I'm with Trump on this one. Socialize it all.
It’s just awesome to borrow money , invest in the stock market being at all time high .When a crash comes I’m sure intel will do just fine ..Those stock option holders will love to sell those options when the company dies stock buyback again and make great profits .Another socialist policy by trump and the far right hating liberal and socialism loves him for it .Ps: equity is t
again Montreal that was money which was already going to go to Intel.
if trump did nothing, that was -10 blns for the American gvmnt.
trump did something and maybe in the future taxpayers will recoup some money.
how can it be worse than what congress and Biden and decided?
No. Never. Make it loan or pull funding all together. Don't extort a company into giving you a stake into their company so you continue funding research you wanted to do in the US to begin with.
democrats and some courts have been complaining that impounding (pulling the funds) is unconstitutional if congress appropriated it.
you guys have to get your act together in some coherent way.
can the president refuse to spend money congress deliberately decided to spend?
Look up oil subsidies we should own every oil company by now.
democrats and some courts have been complaining that impounding (pulling the funds) is unconstitutional if congress appropriated it.
you guys have to get your act together in some coherent way.
can the president refuse to spend money congress deliberately decided to spend?
I'm with you. Medical insurance, farmland, oil, SpaceX! Everything we subsidize we should get a stake in.
again Montreal that was money which was already going to go to Intel.
if trump did nothing, that was -10 blns for the American gvmnt.
trump did something and maybe in the future taxpayers will recoup some money.
how can it be worse than what congress and Biden and decided?
Its certainly debatable which approach is better for the American people long term. I'm not going to call direct investment better or worse
Saying taxpayers wouldn't recoup anything from the deal is being purposely obtuse. You definitely know better
But in general, its just one more big government thing that Republicans pretended to hate that they will now pretend to love because their cheetoh god tells them to
democrats and some courts have been complaining that impounding (pulling the funds) is unconstitutional if congress appropriated it.
you guys have to get your act together in some coherent way.
can the president refuse to spend money congress deliberately decided to spend?
Are we now going to pretend that both sides are fine with the government taking stakes in companies?
You know it's okay to say something is bad right?
Had nothing to do with trump it was just a comment about your vision of the govt never giving a single dollar to any private company.
Its certainly debatable which approach is better for the American people long term. I'm not going to call direct investment better or worseSaying taxpayers wouldn't recoup anything from the deal is being purposely obtuse. You definitely know betterBut in general, its just one more big government thing that Republicans pretended to hate that they will now pretend to love becau
I’ll happily call it worse
Trump’s history with intel prior to this takeover was the CEO must step down cuz something something woke or something something DEI
Since then we have the 1BBB, an absolute obliteration of social safety nets in favor of tax cuts for the wealthy and massive signing bonuses for ICE recruits
And now, with a crippled government infrastructure, Medicare cuts and SSI funding annihilation the government is now spending billions to buy into a chipmaker trump was already targeting and now has the means to perform a hostile takeover on American taxpayer dime with literally none of this coming back to Americans but almost certainly all of it coming back to trump
Like literally every god damn thing trump has done since inaugurated it is transparently about corporations and companies paying tribute to the godking and expanding his own net worth
