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12 October 2020 at 08:13 AM
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by jalfrezi

The person in the photo will produce a lot for you because you'll have them working 12 hour days 6 days a week.

What's your plan to move them from your "polity"?

there is no plan, just a belief that people do move when they gain doing so. the existence of plenty of places willing to cover people in welfare would drive poor people unable to get a good life on their own salary to move there.

jalfrezi countries will get every single chronically ill person who needs constant healthcare, iq 80 or less person and so on. you can get every one of them and I would be willing to pay one way transport costs for them to come to jalfrezi country and ask for asylum, as well as any other relocation cost.

if necessary to trigger you to be mandated to accept asylum we can pass laws violating the human rights of poor people, with no intention to enforce them but just to give a legal basis for their asylum request so you can meet every last ****er we have and be happy with them


by Luciom

i am classic liberal not a conservatard.

Sounds a little suspect. Are you now or have you ever been a member of the communist party? 😀


by Luciom

blah blah blah iq 80 or less person blah blah blah

"When I went to finance, I discovered that those who 'tawk' about money were the ones who didn't have it, couldn't make it, or wanted a lot more but couldn't get it. Same problem with IQ. Those who insist on measuring IQ are ... the most stupid."

- Nassim Nicholas Taleb


by wet work

Sounds a little suspect. Are you now or have you ever been a member of the communist party? 😀

nope


by jalfrezi

"When I went to finance, I discovered that those who 'tawk' about money were the ones who didn't have it, couldn't make it, or wanted a lot more but couldn't get it. Same problem with IQ. Those who insist on measuring IQ are ... the most stupid."

- Nassim Nicholas Taleb

sure you and taleb can get them all and pay for their welfare and healthcare, and for their families, in perpetuity


by Luciom

nope

Don't try to deny you already live in a communist country 😀


by wet work

Don't try to deny you already live in a communist country 😀

I live in a country where the median citizen is far more leftist than the median american for economic matters yes.

not sure why that would mean I ever voted for the communist party though


by whatthejish

Pretty sure the leftist idea was to put them in government sponsored mental institutions and/or project housing. Homeless on the streets is a result of removing/reducing these options.

Yet when putting people in mental institutions was on the ballot in CA in 2024, groups like the DSA and abolitionist orgs were against it. So no, that’s not a far left idea, it’s a pragmatic centrist idea.


by checkraisdraw

Yet when putting people in mental institutions was on the ballot in CA in 2024, groups like the DSA and abolitionist orgs were against it. So no, that’s not a far left idea, it’s a pragmatic centrist idea.

before that , freaking medicaid was passed NOT to cover reimbursement for "institutions for mental diseases" lol.

check the so called IMD exclusion.

ofc the healthcare sector started shedding long term inpatients immediately, they were going to be reimbursed if they cared for them from the outside but not if they kept them locked to protect everyone else from them.

SO it was mainstream leftists who caused all the problems as usual


by Luciom

sure you and taleb can get them all and pay for their welfare and healthcare, and for their families, in perpetuity

It's obviously never occurred to you that the reason we pay high taxes is because low paid workers don't earn enough to cover their rent and bills so require governments to top it up with benefits/welfare. Meanwhile the companies they work for declare profits of £3Bn p.a. as Tescos did recently so their shareholders and senior staff can leech off the tax payer.


by jalfrezi

It's obviously never occurred to you that the reason we pay high taxes is because low paid workers don't earn enough to cover their rent and bills so require governments to top it up with benefits/welfare. Meanwhile the companies they work for declare profits of £3Bn p.a. as Tescos did recently so their shareholders and senior staff can leech off the tax payer.

no that is not the main reason.

we pay high taxes for the elders in continental Europe, almost everything goes to them, and them some for healthcare for non elders (which is a fairly small portion).

now the UK is a tad different from continental Europe as you pay less for public pensions as a % of GDP than we do (both because of a younger population and because of lower pensions).

you pay a lot more than us on average on the disabled, on family welfare and so on.

it's your choice but if you suicide paying 30k+/year for immigrant families with 5 children of which 2 are disabled, that's a choice you make that has nothing to do with capitalism.

ofc it's morally horrific to ever spend even one pound on immigrant welfare but it's your choice. you can shovel tens of billions of pounds per year on them.

what you can't do is to pretend that's "necessary" because of capitalism. just deport anyone who doesn't have a high income.

ofc starting now you have the problem of those who imported, sucked at welfare tits, and had children, with their children being parasites as well and citizens.

but if you never ever imported a single soul who was a welfare taker you would be more than fine.

ideally you would deport anyone without British heritage (3 grandparents born as british) who is on welfare, and that would fix public finances. but you won't and you will keep blaming capitalism

it's just state charity at a massive scale


by Luciom

there is no plan, just a belief that people do move when they gain doing so. the existence of plenty of places willing to cover people in welfare would drive poor people unable to get a good life on their own salary to move there.jalfrezi countries will get every single chronically ill person who needs constant healthcare, iq 80 or less person and so on. you can get every one o

Moving cost money .
Not that easy .
Especially in a new city where you know no one .


by whatthejish

Pretty sure the leftist idea was to put them in government sponsored mental institutions and/or project housing. Homeless on the streets is a result of removing/reducing these options.

The ACLU removed the "mental institution option" in the 1970's. They successfully argued in court that you couldn't house folks against their will unless they were an imminent danger of harming themselves or others.


by Luciom

I live in a country where the median citizen is far more leftist than the median american for economic matters yes.

not sure why that would mean I ever voted for the communist party though

You live in what you consider a commie country by choice. Who cares if you vote for politicians or not? You're voting with your feet and life.


by wet work

You live in what you consider a commie country by choice. Who cares if you vote for politicians or not? You're voting with your feet and life.

Exactly .
If should take his own advice and move on, being surrounded by such leftish evilness !


meanwhile in related news, the moderate centerright prime minister of a centerright+centerleft coalition in Germany

https://www.dw.com/en/german-welfare-sta...

What did Merz say about cutting welfare?
"The welfare state that we have today can no longer be financed with what we produce in the economy," Merz said in the town of Osnabrück.

The coalition partners had already agreed to reforming the social insurance system, which covers health insurance, pensions and unemployment benefits, due to rising costs and gaps in the federal budget.


by Luciom

meanwhile in related news, the moderate centerright prime minister of a centerright+centerleft coalition in Germanyhttps://www.dw.com/en/german-welfare-sta...What did Merz say about cutting welfare?"The welfare state that we have today can no longer be financed with what we produce in the economy," Merz said in the town of Osnabrück. The

For sure , making life harder for people should help make them more productive .

Unhealthy work force is far more productive than a healthy one for example.

Knowing if u lose your job you have 0 help from the government , entice people to invest more in risky adventure or buying houses or stimulate the economy by consuming more , that help grows gdp ….

Let’s just ignore all the poorest red state in the US , using that kind of ideology, works so great for them .


by Montrealcorp

For sure , making life harder for people should help make them more productive .

Unhealthy work force is far more productive than a healthy one for example.

Knowing if u lose your job you have 0 help from the government , entice people to invest more in risky adventure or buying houses or stimulate the economy by consuming more , that help grows gdp ….

or you can kick immigrants that are on welfare out of the country


In other news the USA has successfully extracted all hope, satisfaction, and joy from its youngest generations. Probably has nothing to do with this full born politicization of society and entrenched corruption at the top mixed with a culture of veneered "success"

https://questionsforum.com/americans-und...


It was definitely the phones in their pockets and social media algorithms that caused that.

Young people are having all the wrong kinds of human interaction and almost none of the right kind. The little screen in front of them is telling constant lies, making them feel powerless to change their circumstances because all their problems are too large for just one person, and creating imaginary worlds where their peers are all totally happy and successful and having fun without them.

The Internet was a mistake.


by coordi

In other news the USA has successfully extracted all hope, satisfaction, and joy from its youngest generations. Probably has nothing to do with this full born politicization of society and entrenched corruption at the top mixed with a culture of veneered "success"

https://questionsforum.com/americans-und...

or the unprecedented horrors of covid management, all unleashed by democrats.


In other news, you all should shower more



I've been to Greece. There's no way it should be any higher than 30%.



[QUOTE=Luciom;59077030]In other news, you all should shower more

Italians have to shower daily because they're so hairy the sweat coagulates on their bodies.

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