President Donald Trump

President Donald Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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in before the 2026 midterm elections are a bloodbath for republicans because they stop voting by mail, and a blue wave allows them to pick up a lot more seats in texas because the gop margin has been thinned too much and without trump on the ballot, a lot of the recent republican votes disappear


by Land O Lakes

There is early voting in the US. Trumpers don't use it because they want to cry fraud when machines going down, etc., on Election Day.

Yeah, why is it always repubs complaining about voter fraud? My favorite was when they claimed russia interfered to get trump elected - they got a bunch of politicians and almost the entire media in on it too. That started before an election and it is still being pushed today in that a lot of people thinking trump is working for russia. What a uniquely repub thing to do.

by Land O Lakes

The issue, of course, against forcing in-person is because it's a form of voter suppression. Trump demanded that AZ require in-person voting in 2020, then when he learned that a metric shitton of Q-tips vote red by mail and would just not vote at all, he stated that AZ has secure mail-in voting and they are okay. It's all bullshit and Trump votes by mail himself.

If forcing someone to walk into a precinct to vote is voter suppression then isn't forcing someone to walk to their mailbox to get their ballot also voter suppression? They are both requiring a very minimal amount of work to vote so why don't you just argue that we should send voting officials door to door to help minimize the work required to vote?


by bahbahmickey

Yeah, why is it always repubs complaining about voter fraud? My favorite was when they claimed russia interfered to get trump elected - they got a bunch of politicians and almost the entire media in on it too. That started before an election and is still being pushed today in that a lot of people thinking trump is working for russia. If forcing someone to walk into a precinct t

For some lazy mfs, opening the door is too much effort already anyway


by Luciom

not sure what you mean. we have a register of all citizens (anagrafe), and "voting registration" doesn't exist in the sense it does in the USA. You go to the location assigned by your residence address and they copy down the photo ID number and cross over your name, and stamp your voter roll document (another, separate document you bring to vote).If you try the next day, 1) the

Lucium, be careful saying this kind of stuff. A lot of Dems would call your post racist because it suggests we should require an ID to vote and they believe certain minorities are too stupid to figure out how to get an ID.


Virtually no dems would call it racist. The argument is that its unnecessary and just an extra barrier to voting.

Based on the extensive investigations that have been performed there is no evidence that material levels of voting fraud have occurred.

Now the jury is out on Musk tampering with voting machines during this last election but I'm sure you guys don't want to talk about that


by coordi

Now the jury is out on Musk tampering with voting machines during this last election but I'm sure you guys don't want to talk about that

Yes no one wants to talk about your harebrained conspiracy theories.


by coordi

Virtually no dems would call it racist.

The voter ID laws that repubs tried to pass a few years ago were dubbed "jim crow 2.0". You are way ahead of your time - in 15 years or so you may be able to re-write history by claiming dems never really said voter ID laws are racist but for now you just have to take it on the chin and admit a hell of a lot of dem voters and politicians called voter ID laws racist.

Also, years ago I was called racist by multiple 2+2 users for agreeing we should have voter ID laws.


Rewriting history?

in accordance with Executive Order 14253, Restoring Truth and Sanity to American History, we will be leading a comprehensive internal review of selected Smithsonian museums and exhibitions. This initiative aims to ensure alignment with the President’s directive to celebrate American exceptionalism, remove divisive or partisan narratives, and restore confidence in our shared cultural institutions


by housenuts

Yes no one wants to talk about your harebrained conspiracy theories.

You were oddly happy to talk about Trump "believing" the election was stolen


by coordi

You were oddly happy to talk about Trump "believing" the election was stolen

Yes he believed that. You think he's dumb for that.

You believe Elon tampered with the voting machines. I think you're ____ for that.


You believe that he believed it and I think you're _____ for that.

If the 2020 election being stolen is 0% and the 2024 election being stolen is .0000001% thats still infinitely more likely than zero. Thats how statistics work!


It's a pretty ****ed up country that wants to make access to guns easy and voting hard.


by Luciom

The associated press defined him as " a democrat" but u understand these days, conflict of interest doesn't apply (If you don't agree that being politically active in any way as a democrat or republican should fully disqualify you to judge a politician, we have a problem) https://apnews.com/article/trump-engoron...

and... the court of appeal finds Engoron has violated the 8th amendment with his grotesque, absurd, obscene decision to fine Trump to the tune of 500M (including interest), now the entire fine is... null and void.

That's what you get when you are a partisan political activist cosplaying as a judge


by thethethe

Rewriting history?

Surely the nature of history is that it gets rewritten all the time.


by bahbahmickey

If forcing someone to walk into a precinct to vote is voter suppression then isn't forcing someone to walk to their mailbox to get their ballot also voter suppression? They are both requiring a very minimal amount of work to vote so why don't you just argue that we should send voting officials door to door to help minimize the work required to vote?

Uh huh. So what you're saying is it should be more inconvenient for citizens to vote than it is for the President of the United States? Since he votes by mail, your argument is kinda shiit.


by jalfrezi

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Voter ID being racist is an outdated talking point. It is transphobic, though.


Try to keep up.


Huge blow to the NLBR just delivered by the fifth circuit.

https://cei.org/blog/the-harm-is-the-pro...

Will prob go to SCOTUS, let's see what happens there: but if it holds, then the NLBR is unconstitutional and another piece of undemocratic bureaucracy goes away


by coordi

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I am sorry I called you out on your BS claim that dems haven't widely said voter ID laws are racist. I see that you read my post and I assume you likely googled it (because you selectively forgot how stupid your party is) and realized you were wrong.

Instead of personally attacking someone you disagree with another option when it is obvious to everyone reading you are wrong is to just apologize or admit that you were wrong and move on. I hope this helps.

FYI - I have reported your post for the unwarranted personal attack, but it is unlikely anything will come from it since most mods around here are ok with dems blanket calling 50% of the country racist.


by Land O Lakes

Uh huh. So what you're saying is it should be more inconvenient for citizens to vote than it is for the President of the United States? Since he votes by mail, your argument is kinda shiit.

No, I was just mocking your idea that it is voter suppression to require someone to go to precinct to vote because it requires effort. My "idea" of having vote takers go door to door was meant to sound as idiotic as saying requiring people go to polls is voter suppression.


I’ll delete the post but it should be noted that the mass majority of post reports (100%) from the last month are right wingers who are happy to insult people who can’t defend themselves complaining that they are being insulted to their face

I am not particularly sympathetic


by Luciom

Huge blow to the NLBR just delivered by the fifth circuit.

https://cei.org/blog/the-harm-is-the-pro...

Will prob go to SCOTUS, let's see what happens there: but if it holds, then the NLBR is unconstitutional and another piece of undemocratic bureaucracy goes away

The undemocratic bureaucracy of an agency voted on by democratic representation that could have been repealed at any time but will instead be destroyed by fiat from the bench.


An appeals court has thrown out a $500m (£372m) penalty that President Donald Trump was ordered to pay in a New York civil fraud trial last year.

Judge Arthur Engoron had ordered Trump to pay the fee for massively inflating the value of the Trump Organization's properties in order to secure favourable loans.

In the lengthy ruling released on Thursday, judges on the New York Supreme Court's Appellate Division stated that while Trump was liable for the fraud, the fine of nearly half a billion dollars was excessive and probably violated constitutional protections against severe punishment.

In the case Judge Engoron had ordered Trump to pay $355m, but with interest, that grew to more than $500m.

"While harm certainly occurred, it was not the cataclysmic harm that can justify a nearly half billion-dollar award to the state," wrote Judge Peter Moulton.

In a post on his social media site, Truth Social, Trump claimed the decision was a "total victory".

"I greatly respect the fact that the Court had the Courage to throw out this unlawful and disgraceful Decision that was hurting Business all throughout New York State," he said. "It was a Political Witch Hunt, in a business sense, the likes of which no one has ever seen before."

The New York Attorney General's Office, which brought the case against Trump, also framed the decision as a win, as it upheld Trump's fraud liability and the judges did not throw out other penalties that were not financial. The office plans to appeal against the decision on the fine to the state's highest court, the Court of Appeals.

In a statement, the attorney general's office said the judges "affirmed the well-supported finding of the trial court: Donald Trump, his company, and two of his children are liable for fraud".

"It should not be lost to history: yet another court has ruled that the president violated the law, and that our case has merit," it also said.

In the case against Trump, his two adult sons, and the Trump Organization, Judge Engoron also banned Trump from serving as a company director or taking out loans from banks in the state for three years.

Thursday's decision kept in place this and other nonmonetary penalties that Judge Engoron imposed.

The 323-page ruling, which included three lengthy opinions, revealed disagreement among the five judges on the panel.

They were primarily divided over the merits of the original lawsuit brought by James, who had accused Trump and his sons of "persistent and repeated fraud".

While several judges said she was "within her lawful power in bringing this action", one believed the case should have been dismissed and two said that there should be a new trial of a more limited scope.

Those two, though, joined the decision to throw out the fine "for the sole purpose of ensuring finality", wrote Judge Moulton.


by checkraisdraw

The undemocratic bureaucracy of an agency voted on by democratic representation that could have been repealed at any time but will instead be destroyed by fiat from the bench.

if congress overstepped it's authority by creating an agency with illegals, unconstitutional prerogatives, as a bipartisan decision, are you surprised it takes the courts to strike it down?

congress can't create tentacles that work outside of it that have legislative and regulatory power because it's scared to floor bills the hard way.

or it can, but those tentacles then become parts of the executive and under the entire and sole control of the executive branch, with the people wielding power acting at the pleasure of the president.

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