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Turning up in a forum and using uber aggression as a defense mechanism when your attempts at wit fell flat isn’t great. Maybe just take a break and consider that.

I’m sure there’s a better poster lurking somewhere behind the idiot that presents itself.

Lots of emotions and feels but not really much else.

Or maybe not.

No wonder you Brits need censorship laws. If you consider my rhetoric ''uber aggressive'' you definitely need to be protected from all the mean people on Facebook.

Thought it was a silly law at first but Jalfrezi changed my mind, protect those sensitive innocent little men.

Here in Canada as well guy showed up called himself a gal and crushed provincial weightlifting records by a 100 lbs held by a trans athlete that crushed the original record

https://nypost.com/2023/03/30/male-power...

the court case didn't adjudicate whether the twitter files contained any element that made known to us if the government had pushed or not for social media companies to censor americans

Oh yea? What do you have to say about this then????

All part of the decades long trans depopulation movement by the GLOBALISTS to condition us into accepting high school boys dominating the WNBA.

Nothing will stop this unless we ALL throw dildoes on the court and by DildoCoIN.

This is a much better argument than trying to justify it from a practical standpoint.

I doubt the actual players would be too excited about it, but if the people who pay all the bills say it's cool, then I guess I can't really argue with that.

Is the sarcasm of you claiming that female sports leagues have zero testing standards and that they’re letting men compete with women supposed to mean that they do have testing standards and they don’t let men compete with women? Otherwise I’m not sure what the sarcastic part is meant to be.

If it’s helpful, sarcasm is not a synonym for hyperbole, snark, humor, or deliberate bad faith misrepresentation of the issues.

I cba explaining again. I apologize for confusing you, I understand some may be intellectually challenged and I will keep this in mind moving forward.

I know the difference between sarcasm and hyperbole. Appreciate you trying to help but just focus on yourself and maybe you can keep up.

14 year old boys playing in the WNBA might actually make it more watchable both for sports fans and Trump fans.

My stance has always been that we should defer to the experts. You aren't an expert. Trump isn't an expert.

This is how it worked for a decade. Experts were consulted and guidelines were established.

Somewhere along the lines, you guys decided that ideologically you were going to villainize trans people and make a sport of not understanding their motivations. That doesn't make you a hero or a good person. Practically speaking, you are out of your depth and talking out your ass

I think what really happened is "experts" got compromised by left wing radical ideology. And they started promoting unworkable recommendations. It was increasingly getting to the point in the most left wing spaces that "experts" were recommending basically any biological male could decide they were female on any given day and compete as one.

And there was some legitimate criticism, and some bad faith criticism. And because of such criticism, so-called "experts" are having to modulate their recommendations back to a workable place.

My opinion is a lot of culture war issues like this are a result of bad elite decision making due to left wing ideological capture of institutions. And if elites want to be taken seriously, they need to make better decisions that are actually workable for the people.

I contend we dont need more populism. Populism is pretty much always going to give bad results. We need better elitism that isn't so ideologically captured with bad ideas.

This doesn't quite hit the mark. Not everyone has the same motivations, so I won't treat them as a monolith, but when it comes to the most notorious examples of trans athletes, I've mostly just taken the stance that trans desires don't deserve more weight than everyone else already participating in those sports just because they're particularly special snowflakes.

If we let the WNBA players vote, I don't actually think most of them would agree to let men in under the guise of trans rights. They're at the literal top of their sport, so there's nowhere left to go when they get displaced. Who in their right mind gets to vote on someone coming in to take their job and pulls the "yes" lever?

But, not being in the WNBA, you're right that I can't say for certain and I'm talking out of my ass. I only know what I would do in their shoes.

We DO know what most competitive female athletes lower on the totem pole want, and it's not to compete against men. If not for that pushback from the younger athletes themselves, this issue probably wouldn't have received much press in the first place.

No the experts made decision that we should have men’s and women’s sports

If we eliminated men’s and women’s divisions and had one division there would be next to no women in sports . Maybe in darts and pool

The folks that decide biological men can compete against women are not as qualified as Trump on this he has common sense .
Why is it that no women that decide their men do not compete in men’s sports

the experts cease to be trustable the moment they make any political choice. The instant they take a stand on a political issue they forever lose all credibility as "experts" and it's demented to think otherwise.

Unless coordie wants to believe that the "experts" defending trump tariffs after having pledged political allegiance to him are to be trusted.

It works both ways: if you want to be able to correctly dismiss their ******ed takes as partisan nonsense, then the same should always apply to any and all experts that ever explicitly endorsed a controversial political opinion of one of the 2 parties.

Which includes all "trans experts" ofc

Lol an even dumber take than your first one. Experts have shared their expertise and were called bigots by cretins like you.

lol, the actual experts in medicine and psychology are very much in the pro-trans camp and it's not even debatable. As far as I can tell, the WNBA players have largely been openly supportive of trans players in the league. Sorry, you guys do not get to pretend you're on the side of expert opinion, but then as reactionary conservatives you should be used to that feeling of having to trust Tucker Carlson over subject matter expertise.

"actual" experts meaning "leftist experts" then yes ofc, it's a tautology.

It is debatable though who the "actual" experts are, given there are many countries in the world, and japanese experts don't agree with american experts (for example), and there is absolutely no a priori reason to consider american experts more capable than japanese experts.

When several first world countries health ministries, with their own experts, end up with widely different reccomandations about a topic, the only thing you can say for sure is that there absolutely is no consensus about the topic at all among people who spent their entire career studying it.

That, if you aren't deeply intellectual dishonest.

And if you know, *for a proven certainty*, that there is no consensus about something (like it was for , say, mask mandate efficacy in reducing covid transmission), you are a brutal anti-science dishonest supporter of idiocracy if you INVENT a NON EXISTING CONSENSUS to lie and claim "actual experts agree with me and it's not even debatable".

The only way to claim actual experts agree on X and that's not even debatable is if the top 10 or 20 countries in the human development index all agree on that at the policy level, in uncontroversial ways, and that's the bare minimum to even be able to claim something is "non debatable" (because occasionally, even the top 20 countries in the world can all be wrong on some scientifical claims and policies linked to those claims, like when they all kept cannabis illegal).

No, the actual experts meaning professional, apolitical orgs like the AMA and the APA instead of Fox News and Boomer Facebook memes where you guys get your info from. Sorry, there aren't credible right-wing anti-trans bigots who are subject matter experts just like there aren't many actual scientists who are creationists or climate change denialists and there aren't many pro-IDF genocide scholars. As I said, you guys should be used to being on the wrong side of informed opinion by now, that kind of comes with the territory when you're a dumb retrograde bigot.

Exactly. Just like "leftist experts" have been uncontroversially convinced that the Higgs mechanism is responsible for the W, Z or electron mass for 30+ years. Your argument fails because all of science is done by leftists according by your standards because no right ringers are smart enough to learn it and contribute. Sure scientists could be wrong, but the chances of non scientists political hacks being wrong is always greater.

You didn't address the actual point of "experts" from different developed countries differing widely in their recommendations on trans issues.

If AMA and APA are apolitical, the NRA is as well. It's grotesque, indecent to claim that the AMA and the APA are apolitical.

They are exceptionally political, and to the radical left (that is , dramatically to the left of the median voter of the democratic party).

This is a political, non scientifical statement predicated on *radical leftist* claims and language for example

Just using "equity" and "racial justice" like that makes you a political entity, in a complete way, AND YOU KNOW THAT.

And you also know that it is enough to *completly discard their opinion on any political controversial topic forever as non scientific* as well.

BUT AGAIN, EVEN IF you are so intellectually dishonest, so in bad faith to claim that the AMA and the APA aren't political and so they can be trusted as neutral sources on the topics they agree with you about, that doesn't make them "more expert" than the experts in every single country that banned hormones for minors, banned man who think they are women from women prisons and so on.

You just pick them because they are the experts that most agree with you, and call everyone else a bigot, hiding behind the fact that there are bigots who disagree with you.

You deny the existence of a *majority of first world countries worldwide experts* that came to different conclusions than yours, and your experts, because otherwise you cannot claim any consensus exists at all (*because it doesn't*) and so you can't claim you are on the side of science *BECAUSE YOU AREN'T*.

One more thing when assessing experts: american healthcare outcomes are worse than basically all other first world countries.

And that is with spendibng a lot more real money, even after adjusting for cost of living, than all other first world countries.

So on any healthcare issue, american "experts" should be considered inferior, less skilled, less capable, to their counterparts in every other country that achieves better healthcare outcome while spending less.

They are literally the last people to ask about what is proper correct good and what works and why about healthcare, among first world countries. They objectively, measurably suck at their job compared to japanese, italian, french, german, british and so on experts. They are utter trash compared to them.