1/3NL bb vs button 3bet with QQ facing a river shove on Ace high board vs “higher stakes” pro

check turn.

check river.

as played fold.

you have a one street bluff catch hand and you're playing it like you have top set. he has 9x and 88 here an awful lot.

if he had some JT hand and you caught him bluffing, good for you, doesnt matter.

Once you bet on this river, this is probably a snap call.

River is probably a check/call or a check/fold.
When you bet the river, are you really betting for value??? What worse can call??? What better is folding???

As played, snap call. V only repping 9x or boats.

Ck flop ck turn (and call) ck river (and decide)

AP complete the weekend warrior line, call, and head home.

^All of this.

If I'm going to bet this, I start on the flop. As played, I don't mind the turn bet too much, but I check/decide river.

As played, it's probably a fold unless your gut is really telling you he's trying to bluff you off the hand. We've all made those calls -- I just hope you are right if you do it. It's a complete live read at this point.

I'd probably bet this flop and x/f the rest of the way - as played I'd call this river jam. His line makes no sense other than trip 9s and he shouldn't have many (if any) calling 60 pre. As others said though it's truly a live read spot where instincts kick in, but given his line, he usually plays 5/10, and might be getting spewy/bored I would default call.

Honestly, this deep and OOP to a pro, plus no other dead money or people to deny equity from, I'd just flat preflop. Even though we've been active (admittedly I likely have a much nittier image to deal with) and it is a "Button vs BB" configuration, mostly a solid player is just going to range us pretty solidly for what we have facing a 3bet here at a snug table. So instead I aim to keep the pot small OOP against a solid player and try to eke out a couple of bets by underepping my hand. But that's me.

As played, with our 3bet sizing we're offering him about 14:1 IO and will be setting up a committing 4.5 SPR (or at the very least an SPR where he can trivially commit us postflop). So not terrific IO, but still, is this an awesome spot OOP to a pro?

I'm cool with the flop check. We're WA/WB. Could perhaps think of cbetting small with smaller pocket pairs that need more protection but QQ really doesn't need any.

Against better players who are capable of bluffing / putting us in a blender, I think I prefer a check/call on the turn.

Really dislike the river bet. We think this guy is paying off with worse against a preflop 3better? All of the draws busted, so I'd prefer a check/call to induce. As played, gross spot as he's basically put us in the blender that we should have feared as soon as we reached for 3betting chips preflop, and here we are now playing for 200bb with second pear.

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It sounds like the consensus is the river bet is bad. I would have been better off check calling.

Result: I folded and felt stupid about the river bet afterwards. One of these days I’ll play 5/10 with these cocky pros again and redeem myself ��

what worse hands do you think call the river? what better hands do you think fold the river? do you think making those hands indifferentish on the river is worth giving up the showdown value of your hand and significantly overbluffing?

i think you're thinking midstakes regs are going to do all kinds of crazy stuff when in reality you're just overplaying your hand on multiple streets and overthinking things (turn is way too big for your hand, if you had blocked turn river could be a block as well) vs a guy who probably understands that the bigger you bet the less he needs to call. could also like b10 with your range i guess if you wanted otf

I don't mind betting flop to deny equity, and it's a great board for a 3bet range.

Also fine to check flop planning to get to showdown also knowing that lots of randoms love Ax hands (and would put 5-10 players who look angry to be playing 1-3 in this category, until proven otherwise).

Checking flop planning to bluff later streets seems... not good.

Your line is terrible, if you want to turn your hand into a bluff, it's way more credible if you bet the flop. I have no idea what your river bet is hoping to achieve.

You are also way overestimating the amount of times a pro is trying to go for some fancy play syndrome river bluff against a weekend 1/3 warrior.