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It would be less idiotic to say that learning holdem wouldn't be worth it if you were going to play poker for a living because of all the x and y scenarios where the idiot won.

There is a lot less luck in life than there is at the poker table.

The fact that women are both hypergamous and making more money than they did in the past is straining the situation even more for young men.

You’ve checked out in my eyes. Blaming yourself for checking out doesn’t take society off the hook.

Society needs to figure out how to solve this increasingly serious problem. At least it seems serious to me, but I’m trying to calibrate it properly.

my great state of Florida has been doing things to address it. They just instituted a mandatory personal finance class to graduate high school. Its a good step in the right direction but we need more change.

Women doing well is somehow bad for men, is that the hypothesis? Maybe they are just embracing their divine feminine, Craig.

In other news, Wuthering Heights was also a terrible book.

Fair enough. For a few generations, it definitely worked out well.

that's not the model of reality for normal jobs though. Normal sectors don't have extremely high rewards at the top with nothing for everyone else, and a strict bottleneck.

The vast majority of people are lazy, dumb, entitled, and don't think long term. Be smart, energetic when needed, and build up, and you can outplay the vast majority of people in most sectors. You won't necessarily reach the top1% but you don't need to , to have a comfortable life.

You can live very comfortably installing and repairing AC in homes, and just by never being late without alerting a customer, and never lying to them, will catapult you in the top 10% of professionals in the sector, because normal people are utter trash

women doing better than men is bad for women, because they only want to partner with men that do better than they do.

Downstream of that, that's worse for men as well, nobody wins.

Things could change if women can normalize having a partner that makes less than they do. Dunno if that can happen, currently that's a very nasty societal struggle (in the anglo world, normal countries don't have this problem yet)

I posted that matter-of-factly to describe the situation. I don’t think it’s a bad thing at all.

Oh, ok 😀

I guess I’m projecting ahead as well. When something irritates my intuition, I’ve learned to take it seriously because it usually turns out to be true.

keep in mind that's "better than men financially". Women are at their worst ever in recorded history wrt mental illness (in anglo countries). Men aren't in good shape but they are far better on that.

Never in the history of the world we had so many women with bad mental health as today. You decide what's up, but you can't be glad that's the case. And pls no "patriarchy" excuse, you have beaten that already, and that's the result.

Btw, women are embracing their masculine side to get ahead. If they were embracing their divine feminine, then they would be more supportive of men, encouraging them, since the divine female understands the male must lead to the promised land.

It’s not one and not the other. Both sides are necessary.

I think men should take responsibility for fixing the problems they face under a system they created and benefited from for much of recorded human history. I don’t mean this to say there is collective guilt, because men who exist today did not actively choose to live under patriarchy and many of them, especially lower status males, do in fact suffer under this system.

The reason I am maybe less empathetic than I should be is because I strongly believe real change only occurs with accountability and self-reflection. From personal experience discussing these issues with men, it is a rare exception for any of them to to be willing to educate themselves about gender dynamics, challenge harmful behavior in themselves and others, proactively build equity inside their homes and workplaces, or examine healthier models of expressing masculinity. Therein lies my source of frustration.

So until that changes, I’m gonna have a big shrug attitude about it. So long as you’re helping uphold the status quo, I could give a **** if it’s hurting you to do it.

Be worthy of encouragement then

Affirmation is first. Accountability and self reflection follow. How often are you affirming men? That’s against the feminism religion isn’t it?

there is no patriarchy anymore, the system is heavily rigged to favor women and has been for decades at this point. You managed to fully emasculate society and most importantly to create longhouses in all relevant steps of the growth path of an individual.

The education system is militarily controlled by women and manifests the worst of women pulsions. The rule following required is abhorrent, and feminine qualities are rewarded massively while masculine qualities are punished. That becomes even more grotesque in college, with few exceptions in a few remaining "real stuff" fields in STEM. Where, magically, women do worse.

The abhorrent "civil right" movement caused the increase of an hyperthrophic bureaucracy, that only plays toward women sensibilities. Petty rule following and no discretion is female coded.

You managed to ruin everything in society by making it more feminine. That includes politics at large, the totality of the most abhorrent (=leftist) policies find more women agreeing with them than men. That includes the bestiality of regulations suffocating all free enterprise, and the inane massive welfare state allowing failed people to thrive at the expense of decent people.

Women got "tired" of doing their part in families, so they mandated the state to do it, and that caused the dissolution of families, the entities that for millennia defined society. Now the state does everything the family was supposed to do. Ofc it does it horribly, and it costs too much, but that's what women wanted.

We also opened our borders to infinite low quality immigrants. By hijacking women empathy, narratives were construed to convince society to take in failed people from failed country to become permanent wardens of the state in our own countries. And all the negatives coming from that ofc.

You won your feminist struggle, and you are on psychotropic pills more than ever before and more unhappy than ever before. Society is as you women wanted it to be. You can't complain now.

You even managed to lockdown the entire society because a ****ING CHINESE COLD had arrived.

misogynist manifesto itt

Nope because until 40-50 years ago, women didn't vote to the left more than men. Actually for a while they were much more conservative (and so, definitionally, better than men).

So it's about women *today*, after crossnerd feminism had it's turn. In the anglo world: it's not the same in normal countries.

It’s true many men are lost causes currently CN. My main issue has always been when feminists go to “all men are lost causes”.

The same thing when men do it to women.

wanting someone to fix mistakes they’re not responsible for is a perversion of justice. it’s like the woke, secular version of original sin.

if we expect men to lead other men, and the men leading don’t conform to your ideology, what will happen is the men being led won’t conform to your ideology. and if your ideology always leads to worse outcomes for them than the competing right-wing ideology, then it’ll create a feedback loop of men just running away from your way of thinking.

it’s sad because feminists have a lot of good points, they just refuse to deal with men’s issues, and so it drives men away from progressivism.

Which "good points" do feminists have that wasn't enscribed in the law in 1988?

I mean I would say the stuff that they point out about consent, about male culture being not permissive of showing emotion, the discrimination towards women in many parts of the world, even some parts of intersectionality make a lot of sense.

It does get wildly distorted in the mainstream but at the academic level the issues they point out are decent.