President Donald Trump

Maga trump being so patriotic , Edward Snowden says hi, hold my beer !
Still waiting to be recognized as such ….

All January 6 idiot gets a pardon but not Edward Snowden lol
Maga is a model of patriotism .

‘My side doesn’t win’

Yep, this is a guy who deserves to be treated like a functional grownup

What "side" do you even imagine you're on?

There is no reason to believe any of what they would release , if t hey do, isn't doctored to begin with.

And i won't accept any moralizing on the topic by anyone who didn't pressude the biden admin to release the same stuff, obviously.

And again: i am not convinced there is anything to release to begin with, as i wrote. Unclear why you and others are so sure democrats (=your people) kept crucial, super relevant stuff hidden for years.

everyone in politics always think about any politically relevant event in a way that can gain for his side. That's basic politics.

That you are your tribe are dishonest about it and deny you do the same *every single time*, and only focus on what you think gains votes foryour side, and with the cut and angle you think gains more, doesn't change reality.

Grown up know that in politics, like in war, the only thing that matters is winning. Especially with as vicious, immoral, and unsufferable opponents like you.

whatever side stoprainman isn't on, on any topic, according to him, so just ask him

In the US that’s most people.

Republicans complain about election integrity while voting for a candidate that attempted a self-coup.

In the US though many centrists really do believe there shouldn’t be “sides”, so I’m not sure if this is a good charge

Man am I gonna get a ****ton of miles out of this spew post

Snowden leaking government secrets is a little different than peaceful protests

Plenty of people on “my side” did pressure them. This isn’t even close to the mic drop you think it is. Biden was always a high road type and left these decisions to the agencies. Obviously, that was a mistake.

Quit acting like there isn’t a large population of folks that demand accountability from both sides. Ask yourself why you aren’t you one of them?

Oh yeah, that’s right:

You don’t get to pontificate on any moralizing when you proudly admit to being this spineless.

It's one thing to think it would be better with no sides on some stuff. Another to deny the sides exist.

Take rep v dem , basic stuff (obviously the sides i was talking about re epstein). Ofc in midterms 2026 reps start with a huge disadvantage. The structural midtem cost to pay if you have the white house, + the damage of trump tariffs.

Now, my point about epstein obviously is that the only reason to release the list should be, if you think it increases your chances in the midterms, and nothing else matters about that for me.

Now a divided gvmnt would be fine with me tbh, but keeping a healthy majority in the senate is crucial to put decent (ie non leftist) judges on the benches , and to prepare for defense in 2028 if democrats win the white house.

Quite absurd that someone would be surprised if i don't care about releasing a list that i don't think exists, and if it exists, it doesn't help republicans (otherwise they would have released it already obviously).

Now you would like "no sides". And yet, from police reform to immigration to nuclear energy to "climate regulation" to everything else there are sides, necessarily. And unfortunately, democrats are almost always on the wrong side of most of those issues, so giving them power does hurt my side of each issue. Not of every single one of them (for ex not tariffs), but most of them.

So wait you are criticizing Garland here?

re epstein, when the worst people on the maga alt right are fully convinced there are a lot of hidden files that would put Gates and Clinton in jail for 500 years, can i use a very basic heuristic and simply automatically believe the opposite of what the worst of MAGA believes?

Of course there are sides. I don’t think anyone is denying that, so this seems to be shadowboxxing with an imaginary opponent.

People want certain things not to have sides, like when the Biden Justice Dept prosecuted Democrat politicians that were found to have had some kind of corruption/bribery scandal. The thought is that certain things should be nonpartisan, not all things.

What candidate attempted a "self coup"?

Trump.

But you knew that.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_fa...

ok and given that IF the epstein files implicate someone somehow, someone very relevant as a donor or politician, it must be people from both parties necessarily (otherwise occam razor is, the party who would gain would have released them already), but they would do so for stuff that is way after the statue of limitation, and with no way given that to get a jurisprudential truth about purported events, what are those guys actually asking is to create chaos just to gossip forever, without certain proof, against some people of both parties.

And the BI, NON partisan answer to that is "hell no, the country is better off without that ****", wouldn't you agree?

If Trump was somehow involved in these "Epstein files" don't these people think that Biden would have released the information to hurt Trump's good name? That would have surely been enough so that Trump didn't go on to win the popular vote and every single swing state in a monumental election.

Epstein is dead, this is old news. There is little to nothing to criticize Trump and the current administration for so people are trying to grasp at whatever they can.

Since the Epstein stuff appears to incriminate people all throughout the ruling class, it’s less about sides and more about the desire for universal justice.

Presumably, Luciom’s commitment to his Darwinistic nihilism is disconnecting him from any hope for universal justice.

This AlphaSwole account has a lot of comedy potential.

Man there is a statute of limitations. For good reasons, because you can't actually properly conduct a trial decades after events. Witnesses can't recall well or died, other proofs disappeared and so on.

And pls check again that my basic hypothesis is, there is nothing to reveal.

And keep in mind that , even in the case both parties were liable in serious ways, and even if no statute of limitations applied, we would still be talking about BONDI DOJ prosecuting those crimes lol. Who do you think they would focus on ? and ofc trump can always pardon his own guys.

So even in the narrow, unlikely scenario you envision, of those files incriminating a lot of the "ruling class", no justice would happen

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Isn’t it quite obvious by now there is an implicit understanding among the ruling class that they are above justice?

There is no such thing as a "ruling class" in America. If you have a dream and work ethic you can become whatever you want to be. Look at our great VP JD Vance who came from nothing and has achieved greatness. If anything having wealth puts a target on your back. Look at the adversity and financial bigotry our President has had to suffer in his life simply for being born wealthy.

You’re a moron propagandist. Whether Trump was the “victim” of a “hoax” has absolutely ZERO bearing on whether or not he attempted a self-coup you absolute ******.