Bluffing an OESD blind vs. blind

Check behind and see what villain does on the river. You have some showdown value & some serious draws, although another heart would be a problem. See the river, what villain does & then decide.

When villain tanked on the 3bet, could he have been contemplating a raise or was it a tilt call?A bet here is likely to be called and you still don’t really know where you’re at.

I don’t think the villain will check a strong hand on the river after you check behind the turn, so if he checks again, you can bet & take it down. But if he bets, you have to decide could it be a bluff.

In the moment, a player that has been unlucky is one of the best targets in poker. You could pot the turn and take it down often as villain convinces himself he got unlucky again. So, I feel like you’re in a good spot whatever you do. If he shows up with the devil here, his unlucky streak is over, but I would bet against it.

Continuation:

No comments on this hand? :c

Well, I decided to bluff 110 on the River (and Villain did fold). Even though the line doesn't tell much of a story, well the bet only has to work around 40% of the time, and Villain doesn't have a heart more than 50% of the time, so it just seemed like I could get him to fold enough to make a bluff profitable. It's not like I can't have a random J♥ with how I played. But idk, it was a strange runout.

No one plays bvb live unless shorthanded

Online bvb is easy just 3bet/fold.

Flop I think I like calling a bit more.

The thing is when he bet/call the flop he has alot of overpairs and fd.

Turn I probably shut down, unless he gives up easily with his overpairs(with or without hearts).

If we do fire on turn we are repping boats/flushes and some trips.
We probably firing for 1/2 pot or smaller then overbet shove river.

As played on river either giveup
or just overbet jam and pray he folds all his random bluff catchers

Hmm, why?

I agree that after he bet/calls, he has a lot of overpairs and flush draws (that's why I decided not to barrel the Turn). But you don't raise to get a call; you raise to hope he has Q♣T♠ and folds right here.

I can see whether he fires the 2nd barrel or not.

Imagine the same turn, he either continues firing or give up.

1) he continues firing, we can give up ourselves
2) he checks, we can fire away, say he does call his range narrows. we can blast away on river if needed to.

Now imagine its another turn but a blank one
1) he continues firing
a) we can give up
b) we can put in a raise to more credibly rep trips or whatever.

2) he checks, we can fire away again.
if he does check/call it defines his range a bit, probably give up unless you want to overbet shove river again.
but river can have a lot of scary card, maybe firing on the 3rd hearts again.

The thing with raising on paired board on flop is, most ppl idea of your raise is you're FOS.
The thing then becomes can he bluff catch all the way to river and play a game of chicke.
I rather put in a raise on turn then flop to not look FOS. I rather play the game of chicken when I do have trips.
Of course this is just all me and personal preference and thoughts.

I was offline for a few days. Fun to come back to some good hands, but amazed nobody commented earlier.

I probably go ahead and bet the turn. As played, bet the river -- what you did is good. Not much he can call w/ that goes ck/ck/call.

Flop: There are so many bluff candidates that you can go either way with a combo like this that's good enough to just call. Given villain is tilted, I'm inclined to just flat and try to win a big pot when I spike or steal the pot when they run out of steam--especially because they're an older guy who raised 3.5x pre and 2/3p OTF, I just think the odds that he actually has something he likes are pretty good. We can easily form a bluffing range from dry overs, 7xdd without the frontdoor draw, etc, though maybe we don't bother given the above.

Turn: I'm inclined to just check it down at this point.

River: Okay, change of plans again, we're back to a bluffing candidate now that everything got there. I'll be honest I'm not super studied on optimal bluffing strats against fish on runouts this heavy because I generally just let them have it rather than trying to get them off all the random top pair+ hands they have.

If you're gonna go for it, I tend to think B75 is the optimal size to get your opponent to fold a li'l something-something. People have a hard time folding to B50- with any piece, and fold frequencies get pretty inelastic at B100+.

It's also possible villain just doesn't fold enough, especially given the tilt factor. Again, it hasn't worked its way to the top of my desk yet.

First of all...50 is the new 30. Pump the brakes on calling 50 "older".

PRE - Meh. We may not be deep enough to call the raise with 75s, but with the reads and position, it's close, so I don't hate it.

FLOP - Hmmmmm...why are we raising, exactly?

If he's bluffing, let's let him keep bluffing. Doesn't sound like he's likely to be in a folding mood, so if we raise, we sort of have to make a hand. I don't know why we'd think we'd have a tight image, or why that would matter to V even if it were true.

He raised pre, when he could have just completed. Then he c-bet the flop for over 2/3 pot. And we think he's tilted. On what planet is this guy folding to a measly 3x raise?

TURN - I hate how we got here. Now that we're here, I really think we ought to just check it back. We'll absolutely hate betting and getting called, or (gulp), raised.

Bet 15. Fold if he raises. We literally beat nothing, and are just hoping to fold out his better 1P hands with or without a heart in them.

If he calls, I wouldn't even show. I'd just muck and say "good call".

Missed this originally. Annoyed that we're not chopping the blinds, but w/e.

On a paired, lower board that H x-raised, I think that if we're going to x-r, it's imperative to bet the turn when the flush draw comes in. I mean, why else were you raising? Trip 6s and your 65 just hit a boat? Keep telling that story.

Bet the turn if you're going to get aggro and raise the flop. Glad your bluff got through. Sounds like you were bluffing with the best hand.