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President Donald Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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by housenuts

have you considered that it's funny?

explain the humor to me, I don’t get it. is it the subversion of expectations that presidents are supposed to be articulate and well-tempered leaders?


by biggerboat

He kicks the most needy people of of medicaid - haha

Rounds up people on the street trying to work and throws them in a cage in the middle of florida - haha

Not sure why you find these ones funny, but everyone has their own sense of humor I guess.


by checkraisdraw

explain the humor to me, I don’t get it. is it the subversion of expectations that presidents are supposed to be articulate and well-tempered leaders?

Yes pretty much. Idiocracy is a funny movie. You should check it out.


Idiocracy has never been considered funny. The only reason its currently relevant is because it accurately predicted anti-intellectualism


by coordi

Idiocracy has never been considered funny.

wat

it's always been funny


Noticed rather than predicted, no?


by housenuts

Yes pretty much. Idiocracy is a funny movie. You should check it out.

Satire is successful when it warns us against something in our politics and shows us why it’s bad.

This is like watching Fight Club and coming away with the message that blowing up stuff and beating each other half to death makes you truly manly.

You’re supposed to see the stuff that is similar to Idiocracy in our society and be repelled by it. If it actually makes you take real life idiocracy less seriously then it’s a failed satire.


by coordi

Idiocracy has never been considered funny. The only reason its currently relevant is because it accurately predicted anti-intellectualism

it predicted that low IQ (=worse) individuals were having more children and THAT, the genetic distopian trend, would destroy society.

That's literally the beginning of the movie: objectively worse people on every dimension that human beings evaluate people for, having more children, subsidized by the better people (they intelligently avoided racial issues by using whites on both sides of the IQ spectrum).

It's not "anti intellectualism": it's a selection bias against intelligent people having children caused by social rules and welfare.

Idiocracy can't happen if the 85 IQ people don't get a single dollar in services paid by the 120 IQ people in any avenue of life starting with healthcare, obviously.

It's an indictment of the atrocious, anti human horrors that inevitably are caused by welfare.


by checkraisdraw

Satire is successful when it warns us against something in our politics and shows us why it’s bad.This is like watching Fight Club and coming away with the message that blowing up stuff and beating each other half to death makes you truly manly.You’re supposed to see the stuff that is similar to Idiocracy in our society and be repelled by it. If it actually makes yo

It's like watching fight club without understanding that the meaning of the movie is that middle class heterosexual normal men were being deprived of all meaning in life by society.

Or watching idiocracy without understanding the genetic, distopian causal link of welfare the movie spends minutes to describe at the beginning. You should be repelled, intimately, by the idea of worse people being subsidized in having children by better people... instead you aren't.

Why?


by Luciom

It's like watching fight club without understanding that the meaning of the movie is that middle class heterosexual normal men were being deprived of all meaning in life by society.Or watching idiocracy without understanding the genetic, distopian causal link of welfare the movie spends minutes to describe at the beginning. You should be repelled, intimately, by the idea of wor

Honestly after a few weeks of having you gone I just feel less inclined to respond to your overwrought rants.

If you watched idiocracy and didn’t understand that the primary critique was of flashiness, superficiality, rampant consumerism, reality show bullshit being valued over science, intellectualism, etc, then I’m just not sure there’s anything to be reconciled here that wouldn’t take way too much effort to reconcile.

Very very very few people had that takeaway which should indicate to you that maybe you just didn’t understand the movie.


By the way again if you watched fight club and came away with the message that Tyler Durden, the main character’s literal schizophrenic delusion, was the guy who had the right message, you’re probably either evil or ******ed


by checkraisdraw

Honestly after a few weeks of having you gone I just feel less inclined to respond to your overwrought rants.If you watched idiocracy and didn’t understand that the primary critique was of flashiness, superficiality, rampant consumerism, reality show bullshit being valued over science, intellectualism, etc, then I’m just not sure there’s anything to be reconci

All caused by a genetic drift toward objectively worse people because they reproduced more. Not by culture. It was *entirely* explained by IQ by the movie itself.

EDIT: linking here because of error message https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP2tUW0H...

They literally put the IQ of people on the screen, with the high IQ dying off, the low IQ multiplicating. That's the entire explanation for how society goes to ****. Culture is downstream of IQ which is genetic. That's it, that's the movie entire plot.


by checkraisdraw

By the way again if you watched fight club and came away with the message that Tyler Durden, the main character’s literal schizophrenic delusion, was the guy who had the right message, you’re probably either evil or ******ed

The message is that society failed normal men so much, even a warped insane meggage like Durden message was better than what society had left them with: a void, the horror of a life without any meaning.

The message was society is going to collapse if you don't have structures that allow normal men to find meaning in their life.


Lol at how lucy is still too reetarded to know how to embed a YouTube video. Come on, bro, what did you do on your week vacation?


by Land O Lakes

Lol at how lucy is still too reetarded to know how to embed a YouTube video. Come on, bro, what did you do on your week vacation?

What? The post above has a properly embedded youtube vid. Maybe a mod fixed it? Or viewer error?



by housenuts

What? The post above has a properly embedded youtube vid. Maybe a mod fixed it? Or viewer error?

this is how i see it , even if i embed it properly. Must be something about EU regulations



He's pretty funny. Not so much lately, but it was definitely one of the driving forces for his popularity. There's this Norm Macdonald interview where he talks about comedians parodying Trump and looking dumb because they didn't realize that a lot of the time he was doing self-parody. That said, I've tried explaining this to supporters as well, and some of them don't see it. But yes, he can be hilarious, both purposely and unintentionally.


This is the proper way to do it. Quote my post and you'll see the proper format. Remove a bunch of the extra fluff.

by Luciom

EDIT: linking here because of error message https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP2tUW0H...


by Luciom

this is how i see it , even if i embed it properly. Must be something about EU regulations

You didn't embed it properly. You embed after the v=

like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP2tUW0H...

becomes

[/youtube]sP2tUW0HDHA[/youtube]

*remove the forward slash inside the first youtube tag

Like this:


by housenuts

Yes pretty much. Idiocracy is a funny movie. You should check it out.

by coordi

Idiocracy has never been considered funny. The only reason its currently relevant is because it accurately predicted anti-intellectualism

I'd never seen this movie and watched it for the first time maybe 6-7 ago. The hype is basically for the reason coordi mentioned. It wasn't clever or that funny, but then again, what do I know? I don't think anti-intellectualism is necessarily a bad thing.


by Luciom

The message is that society failed normal men so much, even a warped insane meggage like Durden message was better than what society had left them with: a void, the horror of a life without any meaning.

The message was society is going to collapse if you don't have structures that allow normal men to find meaning in their life.

Are you leaving out the anti-capitalist themes you don't like on purpose?


I've always found it funny. Guess depends on people's sense of humor. Seems like others find it funny as well.




I'm sure it'll say nice things about The Usual Suspects too.


by zers

I'd never seen this movie and watched it for the first time maybe 6-7 ago. The hype is basically for the reason coordi mentioned. It wasn't clever or that funny, but then again, what do I know? I don't think anti-intellectualism is necessarily a bad thing.

Having a society with no high IQ people is 100% a bad thing. It wasn't a movie about society having a culture that went against smart people.

It was a movie about a society having no high IQ people because of disgenic procreation for 500 years massively reducing median IQ. To the point the normal IQ man from 500 years before was one of the smartest people alive.

The movie was about how atrocious and disastrous, more than a war, would be to have societal trends that dilute the genetic pool toward lower IQ.

The movie was written and created by the Beavis and Butthead creator.


by wet work

Are you leaving out the anti-capitalist themes you don't like on purpose?

there is no anti capitalism in the fight club movie. To the point that China had to modify it to show it: if it had been an anticapitalist movie they really wouldn't have needed to censor it, would they?

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