SB vs. BB - is this too thin for value on the river?

SB vs. BB - is this too thin for value on the river?

NL Holdem 0.05(BB)
HERO ($5.02) [VPIP: 25.3% | PFR: 18% | AGG: 36.7% | Flop Agg: 42.1% | Turn Agg: 38.8% | River Agg: 27.4% | 3Bet: 7.6% | 4Bet: 5.6% | Hands: 100575]
BB ($5.95) [VPIP: 23.1% | PFR: 15.4% | AGG: 35% | Flop Agg: 50% | Turn Agg: 20% | River Agg: 40% | 3Bet: 5.6% | 4Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 16.7% | Hands: 40]
HJ ($11.94) [VPIP: 40.9% | PFR: 31.8% | AGG: 36.4% | Hands: 68]
CO ($1.05) [VPIP: 15% | PFR: 5% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 21]
BTN ($5.21) [VPIP: 30.6% | PFR: 22.2% | AGG: 16.7% | Hands: 38]

Dealt to Hero: K Q

HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Folds, HERO Raises To $0.13, BB Calls $0.08

Hero SPR on Flop: [18.81 effective]
Flop ($0.26): J 8 9
HERO Bets $0.13 (Rem. Stack: $4.76), BB Calls $0.13 (Rem. Stack: $5.69)

Turn ($0.52): J 8 9 T
HERO Bets $0.30 (Rem. Stack: $4.46), BB Calls $0.30 (Rem. Stack: $5.39)

River ($1.12): J 8 9 T J
HERO Bets $0.54 (Rem. Stack: $3.92), BB Calls $0.54 (Rem. Stack: $4.85)

Thoughts

  • I'd usually fold pre KQo, but I feel like I'm supposed to open wide blind vs blind?
  • Looking back, flop sizing seems too small. It's not repping value and basically all of villain's range still calls
  • Same with river sizing. Anything that calls turn probably calls pot size
29 July 2025 at 01:14 AM
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by LordPoshington

NL Holdem 0.05(BB)HERO ($5.02) [VPIP: 25.3% | PFR: 18% | AGG: 36.7% | Flop Agg: 42.1% | Turn Agg: 38.8% | River Agg: 27.4% | 3Bet: 7.6% | 4Bet: 5.6% | Hands: 100575]BB ($5.95) [VPIP: 23.1% | PFR: 15.4% | AGG: 35% | Flop Agg: 50% | Turn Agg: 20% | River Agg: 40% | 3Bet: 5.6% | 4Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 16.7% | Hands: 40]HJ ($11.94) [VPIP: 40.9% | PFR: 31.8% | AGG: 36.4% | Hands: 68]

Why would you fold KQo bvb? It's a great hand heads up.


Do not fold KQo in the SB! This is way way too tight. Your missing tons of +ev opens from the SB if you're even considering folding. I would open K8o+ from the SB.
I would bet even smaller on the flop but I really don't know what's correct. I simplify to using one size here and that size would be 1/3 pot. If I thought bb was a fish I would start to size up with value hands.
Otr I just don't see any hand you can get value from unless BB is a huge station. The smaller flushes all make straight flushes I think it's a check otr


So you are saying you won... Your hand is that bad and you are worried about your river bet not being big enough?


How would you fold KQo pre here in the SB? If anything you should be opening range here

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