Dealers and Floor at WSOP are a complete joke
Mystery plo bounty 1K.
Dealer announces a wrong raise amount (1.1K instead of 900), falsely counts the ante in pre.
2 callers till it gets to me, I look at my hand, wanna play, but then realize the wrong amount.
I correct it, floor gets called, ruling:
Bc there is already 2 actions behind before the mistake was discovered, the action stands.
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Sounds like completely normal floor ruling. Not sure why you call floor a joke on such a normal ruling.
Even the dealer, sure made an error but not egregious imo, isn’t really a joke unless recurring.
Pretty sure this is the wrong ruling and anyone can correct bet sizing before the street is finished. Unless the rule has changed. Floors are generally bad and held to almost no standard.
I've seen this ruled both ways.
Of all the horrible things WSOP dealers and floors have been responsible for over the years, this ranks pretty low.
Mystery plo bounty 1K.
Dealer announces a wrong raise amount (1.1K instead of 900), falsely counts the ante in pre.
2 callers till it gets to me, I look at my hand, wanna play, but then realize the wrong amount.
I correct it, floor gets called, ruling:
Bc there is already 2 actions behind before the mistake was discovered, the action stands.
You’re the hated nit wasting everyone’s time over 200 chips lol
Standard
Edit:
I think I may have misunderstood the OP. On re-read, it sounds like original better bet pot, dealer miscalculated. In this case Rule 52-B is the exact controlling rule.
Rule 52-B: Incorrect Bet Amounts, Pot-Limit Games
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Example 3: PLO, 500-1000 blinds. Post-flop the pot totals 10,500. Player A wants to bet the pot and asks the dealer for a count. Dealer replies “eleven thousand five hundred”. A pushes out 11,500. Player B folds, Player C and D both call 11,500. Before burning and turning the next card, the dealer realizes the initial bet was an illegal overbet. Despite substantial action occurring, because the bet was illegal it will be reduced to 10,500 for all players calling anywhere on the current street. If the next card is dealt the error will stand.
So, still a bad ruling. Amount should be corrected to actual pot amount, and better and all callers should have the bet reduced to 900.
Original:
Bad ruling. Actual action was 900, subsequent callls should be corrected to that.
49: Accepted Action
Poker is a game of alert, continuous observation. It is the caller’s responsibility to determine the correct amount of an opponent’s bet before calling, regardless of what is stated by others. If a caller requests a count but receives incorrect information from a dealer or player, then pushes out that amount or declares call, the caller has accepted the full correct action and is subject to the correct wager or all-in amount. As with all situations, Rule 1 may apply at TD’s discretion. See also RP-12.
“Rule 52-B: Incorrect Bet Amounts, Pot-Limit Games” isn’t really relevant since this wasn’t the case of a pot bet being quoted incorrectly.
Having said that, as others have said, this is such a minor impact it’s almost not worth mentioning.
How often do we see ante in PLO?
I rarely, if ever, play PLO, but I was under the impression that there weren't any ante.
How often do we see ante in PLO?
I rarely, if ever, play PLO, but I was under the impression that there weren't any ante.
I assume just in tournaments, like this one.
I've never seen a NLH cash game with antes either, but pretty much every tournament has them, at least at the later levels.
Big PLO cash games sometimes have an ante. They're creeping into 5-10 and higher NLH tables as well.
Tournaments pretty much all have them at this point. The change happened in PLO pretty quickly a few years ago.
