THE BEAUTIFUL BUDGET

THE BEAUTIFUL BUDGET

I don't think it's very beautiful, from what I've heard about it.

No need to increase the military budget, let alone a la

20 May 2025 at 02:37 AM
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And this monstrosity is now going to the floor

Did anyone actually believe these hyperMAGA chuds were ACTUALLY gonna defy trump?


I never imagined GOP could actually win and defund everything because it doesn't make sense. What do we do when the US can't pay it's debt in 5-10 years because of these tax cuts? Is there a plan? It's never been brought to my attention. Usually people make wild claims about magically paying for themselves or change the subject. What's the plan? Loot social security to fund more tax breaks? In practice, the tax cuts are destroying our country's finances and we've cut education, USPS, Medicare, etc. What do we gain??

Why are we increasing spending and decreasing tax revenue? Is the intent to bankrupt the country?


Well it is being run by Donald Trump, after all


I assume the way the right wing media will spin this and how the chuds in this forum who want Daddy Trump to cum on their face will absorb it is the following:

1. These tax cuts are amazing and will make every American super rich
2. We’ve cut all these radical Marxist programs and left wing agendas
3. We’re making America safe again by giving ICE and defense all this money that would otherwise be going to teaching your kids about trans people in schools
4. We’re kicking the freeloaders off Medicaid by forcing them to work or lose it
5. We’re removing government waste

And when this time bomb inevitably blows up they’ll still blame socialist programs, and probably at that time come for social security so they can get more money to ICE or funding alligator Alcatraz BUT WITH SHARKS WITH LASER BEAMS

Or something


by Luciom

voters of all stripes want ever growing defense expenses.

I'm not sure this is true


by TropicThunder

I never imagined GOP could actually win and defund everything because it doesn't make sense. What do we do when the US can't pay it's debt in 5-10 years because of these tax cuts? Is there a plan? It's never been brought to my attention. Usually people make wild claims about magically paying for themselves or change the subject. What's the plan? Loot social security to fund mor

I don't know if this is 'the' why, but one why would be you would deepen the bond pool and increase liquidity to attract capital flight from the developing, emerging, etc. countries if you're expecting the bubble to burst. Preparing for war maybe, idk, but not much else makes sense.


We will be at war with Iran within the next 6 months, probably more like 2-3


by coordi

We will be at war with Iran within the next 6 months, probably more like 2-3

Our guns aren't over there only to keep the Straight open. We can shut it down just as well.


by coordi

We will be at war with Iran within the next 6 months, probably more like 2-3

Hope you're scooping up a lot of +1200 on this


by John21

I don't know if this is 'the' why, but one why would be you would deepen the bond pool and increase liquidity to attract capital flight from the developing, emerging, etc. countries if you're expecting the bubble to burst. Preparing for war maybe, idk, but not much else makes sense.

They're intentionally destroying the US economy to sell more bonds? They're intentionally bankrupting US to prepare for war? How does that make sense? They want us to lose the war? I don't follow any of this. If we don't cut taxes and increase spending, we'll be in a better position to mobile for war.

I really can't wrap my head around this. You claim they're intentionally destroying the economy. That makes no sense and we should put them all in guillotines for it.


by TropicThunder

What do we do when the US can't pay it's debt in 5-10 years because of these tax cuts?

Print money and devalue the currency.


by Bored5000

Print money and devalue the currency.

The plan is: we cut all services, cut taxes,explode the debt, and then devalue the dollar by printing infinite money? We could skip all steps and just print infinite money. This **** makes no sense.


Devaluing the dollar is really bad for Americans for a number of reasons. Here's an easier plan: don't cut the taxes.


You are right, it doesn't make sense. Thats been the main criticisms of DOGE the whole time

But it doesn't have to make sense. Hes doing *something* and doing it with strength and confidence, and all the people too stupid to conduct critical analysis on complex systems are cheering for the boot to their mouth


"officially" is a dubious term


by TropicThunder

I never imagined GOP could actually win and defund everything because it doesn't make sense. What do we do when the US can't pay it's debt in 5-10 years because of these tax cuts? Is there a plan? It's never been brought to my attention. Usually people make wild claims about magically paying for themselves or change the subject. What's the plan? Loot social security to fund mor

The US can very easily pay it's debts. And there is a constitutional, first order mandate to pay them before literally everything else so there is no worry about treasuries at all.

What might need a dramatic cut are social security payments, as per the law, when the SS fund is depleted, it's an automatic cut. THAT'S when MAYBE voters will accept to increase payroll taxes to avoid those cuts. That's about it. Nowadays you guys pay 6.25 + 6.25 for social security. That's simply too low. 8+8 would be probably ok if done tomorrow, if you do it 10 years from now maybe it will be 10+10. Or whatever it is (9+9? 11+11?, doesn't matter much). We pay 11 + 22 in Italy, in France it's 8.5 + 16.5 iirc.

Then something even more complicated will need to be done, to cut expenses and/or raise more money regarding medicare.

Those 2 entitlements are bankrupting america, and workers will have to pay more for fewer benefits, simple as that. There will be a lot of strongarming about how much exactly to cut benefits vs how much exactly to increase payments, with the natural elders vs workers war at play (the true divide in society people who talk about class and race try to hide), over 60y old people will PROBABLY win (they won in every country that war happened in europe), and that's it.

That's the plan. And both parties hope the hot potato explodes when the other party is governing so that other party will be blamed for a generation for those disastrous cuts in benefits / increases in taxation and the dumb median voter will believe that and reward the other party.


by housenuts

I'm not sure this is true

oh they don't when asked like that in general, but they always oppose cuts in their states, and always favor increased defense spending that benefit their states... so... functionally, they vote in favor of more defense expense.


by coordi

"officially" is a dubious term

sure, but you think US will be at war with Iran in 2-3 months.

if US is at war with them, seems like a no-brainer to take +1200 even with the dubious "officially"

unless you mean "war" via economic sanctions or something silly like that


by tame_deuces

AOC is one of the rare cases on the American left of a politician with both idealism and savvy. I suspect if she seeks the nomination at some point in the future elections, it would be because there is a decent chance she could get it, and a decent chance she could win.

The conservative ecosystem has been in overdrive to paint AOC as the face of the Democratic party because they know that calling someone a socialist is an albatross around a candidate's neck in anything but the bluest of districts. The whole squad gets elevated by Republicans because they are portrayed as extremists. AOC is not going to play nationally once she is out of a very blue district.

IMO, that would be a gift for a Republican to run against her in a Presidential election.


by Bored5000

The conservative ecosystem has been in overdrive to paint AOC as the face of the Democratic party because they know that calling someone a socialist is an albatross around a candidate's neck in anything but the bluest of districts. The whole squad gets elevated by Republicans because they are portrayed as extremists. AOC is not going to play nationally once she is out of a very

The whole squad is elevated because vs the median american voter the squad IS EXTREMIST.

AOC might have national chances if the country moves to the left for real in preferences. For now, it doesn't seem to do that.


by TropicThunder

Devaluing the dollar is really bad for Americans for a number of reasons. Here's an easier plan: don't cut the taxes.

Sure, devaluing the dollar is bad for Americans, but not cutting taxes is a non-starter for Republican politicians.


by Bored5000

Sure, devaluing the dollar is bad for Americans, but not cutting taxes is a non-starter for Republican politicians.

Why? Taxes are at the lowest levels ever and the last round of tax cuts put us in the position we're in now. If anything, it would be conservative to increase taxes.

There's really no point in trying to understand the scammers is there? It's just all lies and grift. America is a giant pyramid scheme now.


by housenuts

sure, but you think US will be at war with Iran in 2-3 months.

if US is at war with them, seems like a no-brainer to take +1200 even with the dubious "officially"

unless you mean "war" via economic sanctions or something silly like that

Well, technically the strikes we made on Iran were illegal because the admin just usurped congressional approval

So the condition of "congressional action" makes me not want to touch it


by TropicThunder

I never imagined GOP could actually win and defund everything because it doesn't make sense. What do we do when the US can't pay it's debt in 5-10 years because of these tax cuts? Is there a plan? It's never been brought to my attention. Usually people make wild claims about magically paying for themselves or change the subject. What's the plan? Loot social security to fund mor

The U.S. has been de facto bankrupt for about a decade.

Even without the Beauteous Bill, the National Debt was over $30T.

0% it ever even gets significantly reduced, no matter which party is in control.


by coordi

Well, technically the strikes we made on Iran were illegal because the admin just usurped congressional approval

So the condition of "congressional action" makes me not want to touch it

for the no side, 92c is too high (too much risk, not enough reward), but I'd take no war in Iran (congress approved) at like 75-80c

i don't think there will be boots on the ground, aside from some covert special ops, which are probably already there.

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