President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
You don't need the government to fund after-school care. Open up the cafeteria and charge parents $5/hr per kid. Let the teachers themselves be in charge of the babysitting. You'll find a couple willing to stick around until 6 every day for an extra $50/hr.
I went to a private grade school without a bus and my family did precisely that, since both of my parents worked until after 5.
If some red tape goes up because of ratios or whatever, kindly tell the complainers to **** off. Also, let's be honest with ourselves; it's 2025 and the phones will watch the kids until mom can come get them.
Do you think Trump and his policies better represent Christian values than the opposition?Personally I don't base my support of any policy on how it aligns with Christian values, but I know the Bible and how it portrays Jesus. It seems to me that the current Republican policies are either completely opposed to those Jesus and his early disciples would have supported, or at best
The christian right can't be bothered with all that nonsense. They just tell themselves they are going to heaven because they say so and to hell with other people.
Do you think Trump and his policies better represent Christian values than the opposition?Personally I don't base my support of any policy on how it aligns with Christian values, but I know the Bible and how it portrays Jesus. It seems to me that the current Republican policies are either completely opposed to those Jesus and his early disciples would have supported, or at best
You cant reason with American talibans shrug .
They have been indoctrinate since childhood that republican= the will of gold .
Do you think Trump and his policies better represent Christian values than the opposition?Personally I don't base my support of any policy on how it aligns with Christian values, but I know the Bible and how it portrays Jesus. It seems to me that the current Republican policies are either completely opposed to those Jesus and his early disciples would have supported, or at best
The above contains so many falsehoods and/or misrepresentations that it would take me a lot more time and energy than I have right now to give a point-by-point 'rebuttal.'
That said, Jesus Himself isn't recorded as ever discussing the roles and responsibilities of the government..
Christians are commanded to feed the poor, help widows and orphans, and many other things. But Jesus isn't recorded as saying that the government should have anything to do to fulfilling that mandate.
In Romans (I think) Paul gives the role of government as 'praising virtue and punishing vice.'
Your post is very important and worthy of a detailed response which hopefully I can do soon (hopefully when I get home later tonite).
One last point for now: It is for sure the case that way too many Christians are preoccupied with politics (including myself until recently). I'm kinda here in this forum now for the same reason perhaps as d2_e4 and Trolly: to enjoy the ride and make a few short pithy and/or amusing posts.
Looking forward to engaging you further soon!
Peace!
The above contains so many falsehoods and/or misrepresentations that it would take me a lot more time and energy than I have right now to give a point-by-point 'rebuttal.'That said, Jesus Himself isn't recorded as ever discussing the roles and responsibilities of the government..Christians are commanded to feed the poor, help widows and orphans, and many other things. But Jes
Except the Christians are obviously not doing it so the government needs to. Also, the government is "us". I 100% support "us" helping those in need. The Christians obviously disagree.
Really the only thing that our resident Christian cares about is his guns. Jesus would be proud.
Except the Christians are obviously not doing it so the government needs to. Also, the government is "us". I 100% support "us" helping those in need. The Christians obviously disagree.
I couldn't agree more that Christians like me need to be doing more.
That's one reason I'm not nearly as focused as I was formerly with electoral politics.
If churches were doing their job better, the government wouldn't have to!
Really the only thing that our resident Christian cares about is his guns. Jesus would be proud.
I don't like guns at all. I would never own one myself.
Didn't take you long to start lying about me, did it?
Amazing how often that happens in venues like this.
One reason why I don't engage much in electoral politics discussions any more.
Constantly dealing with lies and willful misrepresentations.
Lie about me again you'll join your comrades on my Ignore List. (Not that you would or should care either way ofc)
lagtight: "Christians are commanded to feed the poor, help widows and orphans, and many other things."
Also lagtight: "Well, the government is a group of people who may or may not be Christian, so they are exempt."
The church can’t do what the modern white evangelical movement wants which is deportations, punishing abortions outlawing or at the least undoing the normalization of same sex marriage among people who don’t care what the church says. These are arbitrary issues in a lot of ways, as say a white evangelical movement to de normalize and get the government involved in the outlawing of pork consumption doesn’t really exist but obviously just as justifiable historically.
I couldn't agree more that Christians like me need to be doing more.
That's one reason I'm not nearly as focused as I was formerly with electoral politics.
If churches were doing their job better, the government wouldn't have to!
The first thing you need to realize is that Christians "help" disadvantaged people for self-serving reasons.
Stick $100 bill into the church offering in front of other parishioners? Yes. Give a buck to a random homeless person they encounter on the street when walking along? Nope. That homeless person needs to find the Lord and take control of their life, and he or she is just going to waste that buck on drugs.
That said, Jesus Himself isn't recorded as ever discussing the roles and responsibilities of the government.
Lollllll, ****ing wow. I had a very religious upbringing and this is the kind of stuff that always stuck in my craw.
It’s definitive guiding principles, except when it isn’t. The line between literal and metaphorical interpretation is always one of convenience.
Seriously. I don’t understand how a “true believer” could see any wiggle room on this. The Bible teaches that the PEOPLE are the church, not the building itself. How or why would the government be interpreted any differently?
People said the same about Hitler back in the day. I guess some people only learn through pain.
I think it would be hard to find one world leader who didn't get at least a few votes because he/she seemed liked the lesser of two evils compared to who he/she was running against.... but yeah let's compare trump to hitler even though this is true of all politicians.
Is it ironic at all to you that hitler is most hated for killing jews and trump is currently mostly hated, by many who hate him, for trying to help Israel/jews? Or did that go completely over your head?
Oh yeah, it’s the Zionism and not the wanton hate, discrimination, undermining of the constitution, blatantly illegal acts, and siphoning of money from the poorest to the richest
Really the only thing that our resident Christian cares about is his guns. Jesus would be proud.
I don't like guns at all. I would never own one myself. Didn't take you long to start lying about me, did it?Amazing how often that happens in venues like this. One reason why I don't engage much in electoral politics discussions any more. Constantly dealing with lies and willful
I thought you didn't care what people thought about you?
Also why anyone is answering you seriously, when you stated you are here only to troll and don't want to discuss politics (in a politics forum).
Pretty sure all banned 2+2 accounts are going straight to hell.
Those tariff levels sound high. We gain a lot more importing Vietnamese goods than they gain importing ours…Huh? We lost 33k jobs. Who would want to see that no matter who is president?
They looked high to me as well but given Nike is up good today (and they produce a lot in Vietnam), i think the market was expecting worse (and/or Nike has an exception carved out for her?)
They looked high to me as well but given Nike is up good today (and they produce a lot in Vietnam), i think the market was expecting worse (and/or Nike has an exception carved out for her?)
The market is pricing in Powell being replaced with a puppet who will reduce rates and start printing
That said, Jesus Himself isn't recorded as ever discussing the roles and responsibilities of the government..
Christians are commanded to feed the poor, help widows and orphans, and many other things. But Jesus isn't recorded as saying that the government should have anything to do to fulfilling that mandate.
Jesus distinguishes fairly firmly between 'Caesar' (the government) and 'God'. He doesn't think the government is or should be God, as some moderns are inclined to imagine.
The market is pricing in Powell being replaced with a puppet who will reduce rates and start printing
I honestly believe the market isn't pricing anything in. It's reminiscent of post covid. Not as extreme but retail seems to be driving it.
It just feels out of whack to me.
Oh yeah, it’s the Zionism and not the wanton hate, discrimination, undermining of the constitution, blatantly illegal acts, and siphoning of money from the poorest to the richest
I'm not sure if you missed the post I was responding to or you misread my last sentence, but you missed something somewhere. Hitler isn't unique as a politician because he did illegal acts, stole money or changed laws - he is fairly unique because he tried to exterminate a religion. My point was that everyone knows hitler as the guy who killed a lot of Jews so comparing someone to hitler who is defending jews is beyond stupid.
FYI - it would also be stupid/silly to compare someone to the Unabomber because he and the Unabomber both like French toast. The Unabomber is widely known as the guy to kill and hurt people via mailing bombs to them - not eating French toast. So any comparisons to the unabomber should be to someone who mails things to people he is trying to hurt/kill.
It seems odd that I need this to explain this to you, but I hope my explanation helps.
