President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
https://x.com/reaganreese_/status/194014...NEWS: The Trump admin has struck a deal with UPenn, forcing the school to strip Lia Thomas of his records, titles and other recognitions won while competing on the women’s sports team.
Considering the way female swimmers were bullied and threatened by college authorities, it's the least they can do.
i thought the mandated letters of apology to all the biological swimmers lia competed against was a little much but on further consideration i think that's probably far more important that stripping the title
The concept
re empathy, given all illegals had to this day 162 days to self deport the **** away, no i don't have any empathy for any illegal literally whatever happens to them.
Ten years was the customary period of time working as an apprentice in guilds in the middle ages/renaissance.
Wouldn’t these guilds give you amazing jobs akin to a lawyer or a really good small business owner back in the day?
7-10 years is also often what it takes to start harvesting fruit from the moment you plan to plant the trees (depends on the fruit ofc).
Yeah but if your entire life depends on fruit then you’re not giving anything up in the interim to get the fruit. So the analogy doesn’t make sense because there’s nothing in front of you that you’re giving up in exchange.
Some roman aqueducts required 50+ years of work. Speaking of Romans, many of them spent 10-15-20 years in the military knowing that after that they would get a piece of land to be independent and leave something to their children.
You’re comparing jobs to savings? Doesn’t sounds like a great comparison.
What's the difference compared to back then? That people want to play at 23 or 29.
Time to play is when you are 13.
There’s a lot of difference. Not really sure I like this argument of “this is what it was like back then” when we also know that life was much worse back then and typically people didn’t have the same amount of choice as we do now. The point was about psychology of choice.
As for the parents how isn't it literally the opposite? It should be those with abusive/failed families that are more obsessed with securing financial independence exactly because they know on their skin how devastating it is not to be financially safe.
While if you can "always go back to your parents" then that is when the splurging around while living in incredible places starts to make some sense. If you are "due" one million in inheritance 30 years down the line saving 300k looks far less important and relevant.
The moralizing here isn't happening toward them. We aren't berating anyone here with bad financial habits.
But we are making it crystal clear those people DO NOT DESERVE STATE HELP if down the line they fail at life. It's actually morally horrific to punish those with the proper attitude and reward people who behaves incorrectly (from the pov of financial stability).
I’m not following this as a response to what I said. It just makes a lot more sense given what we know about human psychology that people that come from bad financial situations are more likely to have poor financial skills, and people who are from good financial situations will have better financial skills. They’ll also be able to take more risks.
Anyway this is going to bottom out at us discussing our preferences and I’m not really thinking you are convincible when it comes to that as a lot of your preferences are counterintuitive to me.
Wouldn’t these guilds give you amazing jobs akin to a lawyer or a really good small business owner back in the day?Yeah but if your entire life depends on fruit then you’re not giving anything up in the interim to get the fruit. So the analogy doesn’t make sense because there’s nothing in front of you that you’re giving up in exchange.You’re comparing jobs to savings? Doesn’t s
guilds like masonry or blacksmith and the like.
You give up the yearly yield of the land to plant the trees, you get less wheat or zucchini or whatever.
People went into the military to have the equivalent of a pension (which is savings). Nowadays that is STILL AN OPTION in the USA, anyone who would be eligible to serve but doesn't, doesn't deserve the help of american taxpayers, he refused an option that would have given him food on the table and a pension. With some risk yes. If he isn't willing to risk for his own good why should other sacrifice anything for him though?
People that come from bad family are more likely to be bad because of genetics yes. But your side denies that so if the idea is instead the cultural one, well then if someone experienced bad events he should be more willing than others who didn't to put up the effort to avoid those same bad events in the future. That's basic psychology.
Why would genetics be the only factor in whether or not some gets bad traits from their parents? Or whether or not those traits are easily changed? That’s just a claim and my intuition is that you have completely misrepresented what the debate even is about, and I doubt no one serious in psychology holds that position.
Even Jordan Peterson thinks you need to actually be inculcated in good habits to receive them.
re empathy, given all illegals had to this day 162 days to self deport the **** away, no i don't have any empathy for any illegal literally whatever happens to them.
Ghoulish.
Trying to imagine a white Mexican like Louis CK being locked up. Yes I know he's American and was born in America, but just go with the concept. I'm going to see him in a few weeks. Hopefully he has some good material on this subject.
https://x.com/reaganreese_/status/194014...NEWS: The Trump admin has struck a deal with UPenn, forcing the school to strip Lia Thomas of his records, titles and other recognitions won while competing on the women’s sports team.
Too bad they aren't doing this based off any guiding principle, they are doing it for 175 million $
Why would genetics be the only factor in whether or not some gets bad traits from their parents? Or whether or not those traits are easily changed? That’s just a claim and my intuition is that you have completely misrepresented what the debate even is about, and I doubt no one serious in psychology holds that position.Even Jordan Peterson thinks you need to actually be inculcat
Did I say "the only"? No I didn't.
The debate is about whether people in bad conditions because of their own mistakes deserve state mandated help or not.
If it was truly all genetical the help would be MORE justified lol.
As for the habits, we are talking people who suffered from x a lot, will try to avoid x.
Ever heard the claim people who became adult during the great depression had the highest saving rates ever?
Too bad they aren't doing this based off any guiding principle, they are doing it for 175 million $
Agree. Would be nice if they had guiding principles.
Did I say "the only"? No I didn't.The debate is about whether people in bad conditions because of their own mistakes deserve state mandated help or not.If it was truly all genetical the help would be MORE justified lol.As for the habits, we are talking people who suffered from x a lot, will try to avoid x.Ever heard the claim people who became adult during the great depression
You said that either it’s genetics or something cultural. Not sure why that would be the case. You can inherit traits nongenetically by being inculcated in certain attitudes or dispositions from birth. Ever heard of psychological conditioning?
“ People that come from bad family are more likely to be bad because of genetics yes. But your side denies that…”
Ever heard the claim people who became adult during the great depression had the highest saving rates ever?
Household savings also increased dramatically during COVID. People can save, most just choose not to.
Well, they were free to force Lia to compete in the Mens division in 2021/2022 and they let her compete so that would imply their guiding principle
They are being forced to act this way through coercion now
Maybe liberals are just completely cooked forever in the US and its all fascism and Christianity from here on out, but I might remind you guys that what is happening now is ultimately temporary. Many entities are doing things because they are effectively being forced to do it and as quickly as they were forced one way they will be free to reverse the other
Well, they were free to force Lia to compete in the Mens division in 2021/2022 and they let her compete so that would imply their guiding principle
They are being forced to act this way through coercion now
They aren't being forced.
Please consult Gorgo for definition of forced.
I might remind you guys that what is happening now is ultimately temporary. Many entities are doing things because they are effectively being forced to do it and as quickly as they were forced one way they will be free to reverse the other
lol, whatever helps you sleep at night...
Yes, I distinctly said coercion.
Its like if the government confiscated your bitcoin and told you to get them back you'd have to transition your first born
I have no clue what you stand for or what you even want politically
Yeah, a lack of empathy is kind of the defining characteristic of "horrible people". Putting a distinct lack of empathy on display is justification for being called a terrible person. I've made unsavory comments that have been rightfully called out as awful. Thats how it works
I'm not saying it's never appropriate to call someone a "horrible person." But I believe that tactic is way over-used on political forums (e.g. "you voted for Trump, so you're a Nazi", etc.)
The problem is that you think your faith gives you moral justification to be judgmental when the guidelines to your faith directly tells you the opposite.
This is false. The Scriptures command us to judge, but to do it with humility and discernment.
We are certainly not to judge without being mindful that we are all sinners who need to repent daily.
At some point, try a little introspection. There's a reason you hear that a lot and I never do.
I've only been called those things by Leftist trolls.
Note well that the high-quality (imo) posters like Rococo and Deuces virtually never engage in such name-calling except in the most extraordinary cases.
On the other extreme, Karl called people names in virtually every post though.
That said, I agree that I need to practice introspection more often than I do currently.
