President Donald Trump

Such an intelligent response. 🙄

It's amazing how some people here can be called out on what is clearly either a gross misunderstanding or deliberate misrepresentation and then reply with insult after insult.

The others on his general side of the issue should be jumping on this, as it cheapens your argument by letting it go.

Didn't dude say no one should be upset that an old lady being in the country for 47 years gets rounded up but that it's okay to be slightly annoyed by them being booted?

I think that is the comment people are referencing.

You know who claims that? MAGA troopers that hate him because he is in favor of skilled immigration, and because he deosn't 100% bend the knee to Trump. Same identical arguments.

When an argument comes from the worst of the right and the radical left (like you), it's almost guaranteed a complety bullshit argument

Dude, it's not my fault you're too fing stupid or lazy to follow the conversation. You are just demonstrably wrong, as evidenced by the way you immediately ran away from my questions.

Close. Dude said biggerboat and I (and the lady in question!) being upset about losing her home and her whole life she built after being left alone for 40+ years had the same energy as his whatevers being upset about getting fined.

chillrob is either too illiterate or too lazy to figure that out. I don't care which.

Its not an argument or a claim, its a fact.

I know you have a dubious relationship with "facts" so I'll just ignore your general ******ation on this topic

It's a fact that subsidies existed for the sectors Musk operated in.

It is not a fact that getting access to them was something only Musk could do though. The conditions were the same for anyone else with the guts and capital and capacity of attracting capital to enter those markets.

So he still won in the same market everyone else was playing in (or had a chance to play in), massively, more than anyone else, so everything he made was still entirely and uniquely because of his superior skills at executing business strategies.

Morevoer, it's pretty absurd to push for incentives from the left to develop sectors you think have positive externality, and then claims that the best individual to make the most out of those incentives built it "on the back of taxpayers". No he built it providing those externalities you wanted when you freaking passed the incentives!

Or is the entire edifice of the state incentivizing sectors because of externality a complete lie, a fraud, and so the entire industrial strategy of the left based on corruption and fraudulent peddling of company subsdizes?

if you really want to get pedantic, there are no indigenous people from america - everyone immigrated here - just some came earlier than others

You're the one running away from my calling out your error or misrepresentation.

What questions did you ask me?

The only one I can find is "The posters here who were talking about ... what exactly?". I assumed that was rhetorical, not that you actually needed me to explain to you what people were discussing here.

Same is true everywhere except in the location where the first **** sapiens had an **** sapiens sapiens son or daughter

yeah during my brief manhattan apartment search follies i had so many landlords tell me straight up that i seemed decent but my source of income made it a hard pass because they've all been through the ringer at least once and everyone who screwed them over int he past all looked legit from the start so they would rather reject 9 good candidates if it meant also avoiding 1 problematic tenant

covid was particularly bad for them as that gave tenants carte blanche - albeit i'm sure many had no choice but to cease paying

Yes, he wasn't very charitable with the post, but he clearly implied he thought the lady should be allowed to stay. And he did not compare her with a whiny tenant, he compared the other posters here with the whiny tenant.

Wait a sec in capitalist america you cannot produce guarantees for landlords in the form of bank guarantees and the like???

My poker friends when they rented around here just escrowed an yearly rent (that could be kept invested) with a bank of the landlord choice as guarantee of rent and pronto, the problems you mentioned just dissolved. Cost was like 2-3% of the yearly rent in bank fees.

I once rented a place by offering to pay at least 3 weeks in advance, and several times I offered to show my bank statement.

But most small landlords don't want to deal with the kind of thing you describe, and if the property is owned by a major company they probably don't have the leeway to make exceptions to the general rules.

So instead they rent to people with an easily verified income, even though many of them live paycheck to paycheck and are one serious injury or layoff away from not being able to pay the rent, instead of to the person who has 20 years of rent in his bank account.

Not only can you not get guarantees from a bank, but it's straight up against the rules to even allow someone to escrow a full year's rent. Banking laws get involved and if I let someone pass the financial screening criteria by just prepaying the full year's rent then it would be considered predatory, because poor people are being discriminated against for not having the means of coming up with all that cash. It's all very convoluted and at the end of the day, even if there aren't specific laws and statutes that prevent me from making certain exceptions, the free DATCP lawyers give precisely zero ****s and will help some snowflake sue me all the same. Insurance doesn't want to spend the money to win even a slam dunk case, so they pay out a settlement, I have to sign something admitting no guilt but also apologizing for hurting someone's feelings, and it goes on some government record.

I've had to pass on many applicants who have no active income but will show me bank statements with large sums of cash and offer to pay in full up front. Essentially, it has to be a source of income that we could attach a garnishment to, and for me to even consider your income toward the 3x requirement for the unit, your credit score has to be high enough.

If I make anything resembling an exception, I'm absolutely cooked if the wrong activist submits a complaint, my leases get audited, and now I have to explain why I allowed Whitey McBanker through without passing my screening criteria but not this other poor girl and her emotional support goose who claims retired grandma will guarantee her rent.

It stops being about the policy and immediately becomes a discrimination case, even if I can show that I've got every imaginable minority and/or trendy identity as a tenant in some building or another.

Alligator alcatraz is going to need a grandmother wing.

Probably should just go ahead and call it alligator auchwitz.

You wear your horribleness proudly.

basically, if i decide to stop paying my rent - there's very little a landlord can do about it

and it is illegal for him to evict me if i do not consent to that - he simply can't just go change the locks while i'm out and put my stuff in the street

a landlord can't even turn off the utilities etc

all this comes from a good place - so that a family that is experiencing a temporary blip won't be forced into homelessness - but often times when people are way behind, they realize they are better off not paying back rent or future rent and continuing to live there until forcibly removed, which is a long and complex process that involves mountains of bureaucratic oversight, courts, and red tape

just google airbnb squatters to get an idea of how much the law favors the tenant, even squatters who have no legal basis for being there in the first place

one of the few things a landlord can do to collect their rent is garnish their wages - so finding someone with a stable job is their #1 priority

rob's fu money bank account can't be garnished and neither can his poker income so he can quit paying rent and the landlord can do very little about it

someone working at mcdonald's can have their wage garnished despite living month to month so the landlord always picks him over rob

I've tried to figure out which teachings of jesus geezer actually believes in. I'm coming up empty.

yes i get that in democrat run states, evictions are very hard and costly. They are in Italy as well.

That's why i thought it was normal to get guarantees for the rent (as it is in expensive/sought after places in Italy, not everywhere). In italy you can only garnish 20% of wages ("the fifth") and only if some other creditors isn't superior to you in that claim when push comes to shove.

So yes stable income from jobs is still considered a decent guarantee (especially if public jobs), but more and more people just want insurance/banking guarantees (and for good reasons). There are even services that take the credit risk of the rentee from you (for a fee ofc). You could just ask your rentee to apply for one, and if he gets in, he doesn't sign but they did the due diligence for you lol.

I don't understand how in a country where most people , especially among renters, have 1-day notice jobs, people can prefer that guarantee to actual cash that can cover a lot of rents. But i read from other posters here asking for banking guarantee can be illegal (lol)

so many things that are totally different here. Yes we have anti-predation provisions, for ex max 3 months deposit. Which is why larger amounts, you escrow with a bank, the landlord never controls the sum. And btw in italy grandparents (or anyone else) CAN ACTUALLY co-sign a lease and become liable if the renter doesn't pay. That was the previous very standard way to guarantee rents, and it's still common for students (we don't have big campuses in our university cities, most students rent private flats).

We don't have the horror of 60 years of civil right act disasters here though, so we have actual anti-discrimination laws but frivolous suits are ditched quickly (and showing another different person got in isn't proof of discrimination nor suspicion of discrimination here)