President Donald Trump

President Donald Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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by Luciom

We just discussed how according to some people Seattle isn't a city trashed by horrible leftist deranged policies, it isn't a city were crime is rampant and law abiding residents are violated by criminals which the city decided to let roam free.Rick roll post is just an anecdote about a person he cares about who got ravaged by leftism in the city (yes, leftism: with draconian p

i think saying it's caused by leftism is going to far

however, being a haven for drug addicts to roam freely because "they just need opportunity and compassion" means you regularly have crime like this because there's so many around

another major factor is when she called the police, they did nothing, didn't even bother to come check it out - just said they'll put into their records for insurance purposes

again, i don't think that's an issue to do with leftism, but the very fact that "cops can't be bothered" is why this kind of crime is so prevalent because the you basically need to be caught in the act by a police office who just happens to be going down the road at that time

on a similar vein, 3 addicts were hanging out on her front door about 2-3 weeks ago around 3 am and she called the cops and it took them 15 minutes to respond, upon arriving, they shined their beams on the men and they scurried off and then the police car just casually drove away figuring the problem was resolved and they probably would never do it again

again, i don't think you can clearly state this is the result of leftist policies, but it is undeniable that the city is managed by liberals and it's just getting worse and worse

having said that, there's still a lot of good stuff here, notably some of the biggest fortune 500 companies from around the world are headquartered here and it's right on the ocean and has some incredible nearby hiking and camping with the cascades and olympics so there's ample high paying job opportunities and good outdoor recreation, hence why despite how poorly managed the place is, it's still high enough on my "cities to move to" list to where i did actually pick up and move here, choosing it over denver

again, this is very selfish on my end, but i expect to always be in a position to insulate myself from the worst of it by living in a place like mercer island etc


by coordi

The conversation was about San Francisco, I don’t know anything about Seattle

It was about Seattle as well, same Convo yes.

We even discussed how a neighborhood in Seattle criminalized homelessness


Rick roll having empathy for criminal lowlifes is leftism.

Thinking they are "normal human beings who deserve help* is leftism.

Looking for the best way to get rid of them denying they have any inherent value worth preserving is rightwingism.


and yes, seattle police is run by someone with politics in mind

the incoming chief of police made this statement upon getting elected - not that he would try to stop the violent protests but rather that he would go to jail in order to allow violent protests to continue

and police action has always been politicized here, when i was living here back in 2005 it was regularly talked about that the police had a mandate to never pursue marijuana despite that at the time it was still illegal - iirc the phrasing was it's the lowest absolute priority for enforcement ie you see someone ripping into a bong right next to you but in the far off distance you see someone possibly jay walking then you go pursue the jay walker instead before you'd deal with the guy smoking up

of course i liked that policy greatly 😀


this will be pretty interesting read for people unfamiliar with seattle


by housenuts

Ya it's probably near top of my list due to proximity to current location. A top 10 list of cities to move to would be interesting. Seattle might even be top 5 for me.

It wouldn't be very interesting. Apart from liberals not wanting to live in MAGA shitholes and conservatives......also not wanting to live in MAGA shitholes.


by rickroll

this will be pretty interesting read for people unfamiliar with seattle

This was ridiculous, but so was the fact that it started whey police launched tear gas into a rally that had a permit.


by chillrob

This was ridiculous, but so was the fact that it started whey police launched tear gas into a rally that had a permit.

these things always start with the best of intentions

but an autonomous region that forbid police presence collapsed on its own just as expected - gee, i wonder why one the universal things you find around the world present in all cultures and society are police - even ships out at sea have their own jail cells


by rickroll

these things always start with the best of intentions

but an autonomous region that forbid police presence collapsed on its own just as expected - gee, i wonder why one the universal things you find around the world present in all cultures and society are police - even ships out at sea have their own jail cells

So was anything actually violent or destructive done before the test gas? That's what the description in your link seems to imply. If not, it was started by the police, and not with the best of intentions.

I also believe police are necessary, but recently they always seem to be swinging too far one way or the other.

There should be a way to have police stopping violent riots and widespread public use of dangerous drugs, without gassing peaceful protests or beating suspects to death.


I don't think the protests are very well thought out, that is they don't seem to demonstrate much real understanding of their opponent. Because when Trump hears, "No kings," he flippin' loves it, it gets him off. Because what it implies is that he is indeed functioning like a king -- to wit, IS THE KING OF THE UNITED STATES -- and some peons are pissed about it. That is gold in his ego. "No Frauds" or "No Fools" would have just the opposite effect with him. They don't get that this guy loves any insinuation of him as king?? It's manna to his ego.


by FellaGaga-52

I don't think the protests are very well thought out, that is they don't seem to demonstrate much real understanding of their opponent. Because when Trump hears, "No kings," he flippin' loves it, it gets him off. Because what it implies is that he is indeed functioning like a king -- to wit, IS THE KING OF THE UNITED STATES -- and some peons are pissed about it. That is gold in

How many more years until you understand that literally everything is "gold on his ego"? Months of apathy after he took the office, now people are finally on the streets but look who's also here: This one guy who thinks he is is so uber smart and of course he says "Protest not very well thought out hurr durr"


by chillrob

So was anything actually violent or destructive done before the test gas? That's what the description in your link seems to imply. If not, it was started by the police, and not with the best of intentions.I also believe police are necessary, but recently they always seem to be swinging too far one way or the other.There should be a way to have police stopping violent riots and

i mean if there's enough anger towards the police that an entire community sets up their own independent commune and kicks out all the police then obviously the police were not handling things well

but sure enough, there were a slew of murder, muggings and rapes during that period which is why the city finally put an end to the issue, not to stamp down upon independent voices but rather realized it was the clown show that it was and innocent people who happened to live there were in danger

and of course, you don't see any return to that once the police removed the barricades - everyone conceded the experiment was a complete failure


by rickroll

i mean if there's enough anger towards the police that an entire community sets up their own independent commune and kicks out all the police then obviously the police were not handling things wellbut sure enough, there were a slew of murder, muggings and rapes during that period which is why the city finally put an end to the issue, not to stamp down upon independent voices bu

I agree with everything you say here, but I don't see how it answers the question in my post you quoted.


by FellaGaga-52

I don't think the protests are very well thought out, that is they don't seem to demonstrate much real understanding of their opponent. Because when Trump hears, "No kings," he flippin' loves it, it gets him off. Because what it implies is that he is indeed functioning like a king -- to wit, IS THE KING OF THE UNITED STATES -- and some peons are pissed about it. That is gold in

I don't think naming protests based on what Trump thinks is a good idea.

I think it was a good name superficially. Rejection of royalty and nobility is cemented both in the history and constitution of the United States, and hard to argue against. Terms like "authoritarian" or "totalitarian" don't really work because they are to semantically geeky and phonetically cumbersome. Terms like "despot" or "dictator" do not work either, because they give MAGA a political boner at the thought of persecuting political opposition.

It also works on a more serious note. The power handed to the Trump administration by an absent congress and hand-picked SCOTUS majority does raise a lot of the questions that that congress(es) / founding fathers tackled at the end of the American revolutionary war, the confederation period, and the formation of the federal state. A time where loyalists / conservatives had either fled or kept silent, and those who remained really, really did not want a king or for a king to ever become possible again. Both the Articles of Confederation and its replacement, The Constitution of the United States, contain pretty much the same text on the matter: "nor shall the united states, in congress assembled, or any of them, grant any title of nobility" and "No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States" respectively.

And of course, at the end of the day a lot of people know very well that Trump is a corrupt idiot, and the image of putting a crown on the head of a corrupt idiot, even symbolically, is a powerful one.


these are the Economist approval rates for Trump, by topic


tbh I don't personally understand the difference between FP/NatSec (where does bombing Iranian nuclear facilities fall?) but anyway he is dropping fast and currently has the same approval 5 months in , that he had in his first term (net -12)

Trump gamble is to prop approval up with the "beautiful bill" but it's hard to see how that would work, whatever the exact text passed will be, the effect on the masses of that bill will be small.

Q2 GDP growth will be very good (gdpnow currently says over 3) but how many people care about those headline numbers as compared to their "lived experience" which isn't good at all (given the very strong disapproval about inflation and the economy in general)?


by rickroll

gf in seattle - the most wonderful place on earth according to the thread had her car broken into tonight

it was parked in her driveway

she found meth on the seat

That's her story and she's sticking to it.


by FellaGaga-52

I don't think the protests are very well thought out, that is they don't seem to demonstrate much real understanding of their opponent. Because when Trump hears, "No kings," he flippin' loves it, it gets him off. Because what it implies is that he is indeed functioning like a king -- to wit, IS THE KING OF THE UNITED STATES -- and some peons are pissed about it. That is gold in

I would prefer "LET TYRANTS FEAR".

Oh anything that reminds tyrants they could go the way of Mussolini, Ghadaffi, and Saddam Hussein




by whatthejish

huge if true


by housenuts

huge if true

I wish it were true where I am.


I am genuinely flummoxed that the fast food industry and services like doordash continue to exist. People complain about being broke but will still drop $38 on a delivered burger and melted milkshake.

The only way any of this changes is if you people stop paying these prices for **** you don't need.

I generally don't know what things cost. If I want it, I'll buy it. But you're only going to get me to buy a $14 burrito once. Then I'll see these videos of people heading out to lunch in Manhattan and waiting an hour in line to buy a $47 brisket sandwich every day. What is wrong with you people?


lol


by Inso0

I am genuinely flummoxed that the fast food industry and services like doordash continue to exist. People complain about being broke but will still drop $38 on a delivered burger and melted milkshake.The only way any of this changes is if you people stop paying these prices for **** you don't need.I generally don't know what things cost. If I want it, I'll buy it. But you're

Can't wait for another pandemic to have discounted cruises bro.


by whatthejish
by Inso0

I am genuinely flummoxed that the fast food industry and services like doordash continue to exist. People complain about being broke but will still drop $38 on a delivered burger and melted milkshake.The only way any of this changes is if you people stop paying these prices for **** you don't need.I generally don't know what things cost. If I want it, I'll buy it. But you're

This is absolutely true. But you guys were the ones saying (and still saying) that prices can be deflated and Trump will do it fast.


by Inso0

I am genuinely flummoxed that the fast food industry and services like doordash continue to exist. People complain about being broke but will still drop $38 on a delivered burger and melted milkshake.The only way any of this changes is if you people stop paying these prices for **** you don't need.I generally don't know what things cost. If I want it, I'll buy it. But you're

McDonald's used to be so cheap. It's expensive now. Corporate greed I guess.

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