ITM spot with QQ and Ace on the flop
Im opening 2bb with 20bb from MID position with QQ, everyone folds except of BB who is like 7bb and he calls. Flop is A 7 4 rainbow. BB checks. What do we do here?
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300 out of 3000 players, just after the bubble
I did sth which I consider stupid now and I’m tilting hard. I’d appreciate any suggestions and I’ll follow with my donk move
I prob bet tiny and fold to a shove.
If you check behind you give him license to shove turn with his entire range.
Yes, that’s what I realized later. Tiny B/F. Thank you. I tilt-shoved
I prob bet tiny and fold to a shove.
If you check behind you give him license to shove turn with his entire range.
Seems like a reason to check back flop and call turn.
I think bet/folding flop is probably a mistake against a stack this short. BB ought to be getting it in with any pair or the OESD here.
I think if you bet flop you have to call a shove, but I also think with a pair as high as QQ you could check back and let him try to pair a card under your Q on the turn that you can get some money out of. Plus this gives you some pot control in the event he does have an ace, or allows you to decide later if, say, he bets turn / shoves river.
Thanks. Yes, this too. I overreacted and he trapped me with A7
Seems like a reason to check back flop and call turn.I think bet/folding flop is probably a mistake against a stack this short. BB ought to be getting it in with any pair or the OESD here.I think if you bet flop you have to call a shove, but I also think with a pair as high as QQ you could check back and let him try to pair a card under your Q on the turn that you can get some
I think villain is likely to just open shove 65 and the 4x/7x here, not go for the x/r. So if we bet and villain shoves, I would expect to see Ax a lot of the time.
I guess the question is whether you're comfortable calling the turn shove to bluff catch for 1/3 your stack at this point in the tourney. I kind of wouldn't mind just taking it down here since he'll fold the vast majority of his range (assuming he's defending close to properly).
I think villain is likely to just open shove 65 and the 4x/7x here, not go for the x/r. So if we bet and villain shoves, I would expect to see Ax a lot of the time. I guess the question is whether you're comfortable calling the turn shove to bluff catch for 1/3 your stack at this point in the tourney. I kind of wouldn't mind just taking it down here since he'll fold the vast ma
And by taking it down you mean? Sorry I didn’t catch that as I’m far from fluent
I would check back flop. And likely check back turn as well. I just don't think Villain has Ax here much because why in the world didn't he jam preflop?
If Villain bets small on turn (1 bb) I would call. If Villain jams the turn or if Villain bets close to half his stack its a tough spot because he will basically be jamming on the river. I would think Villain mostly has an A because we could be slow playing a hand like AK/AQ and I think Villain would under bluff here and if Villain would actually bluff a Axx flop then why didn't he stop 'n go jam on the flop? So I probably mostly fold. But if I think (subconsciously) he might have a smaller pair I would call.
If Villain bets turn (1 bb) and jams river its difficult. My guess is I likely fold. It would depend on reads because this would be less than a pot sized jam.
The important thing here is not to tilt when something like this happens. Villain should have jammed preflop you would always call and take the loss. And be grateful that Villain didn't have more chips. Yes, you may have made a mistake but its a borderline kind of error. Because Villain really shouldn't have a lot of Ax hands here.
I would check back flop. And likely check back turn as well. I just don't think Villain has Ax here much because why in the world didn't he jam preflop? If Villain bets small on turn (1 bb) I would call. If Villain jams the turn or if Villain bets close to half his stack its a tough spot because he will basically be jamming on the river. I would think Villain mostly has an
I appreciate your response a lot. Yes he should jam pre. Or fold with A7o. He gave me a chance to get away from this, which I didn’t use. Yes, tilt is unnecessary
I'm assuming he has 7 bb remaining after posting bb? So he started the hand with 10 bb, posted blind and ante and called your min-raise?
Anyway I'm betting one BB on the flop and typically just calling him down if he raises. He's so short and should have very few Ax. Plus he could easily be check raising with any pair at this stack depth, plus straight draws, etc.
So I would have played it how you did and lost too. I don't think it can be that bad. Folding would likely be an exploit if you're that confident in your read that he has an ace.
I think villain is likely to just open shove 65 and the 4x/7x here, not go for the x/r. So if we bet and villain shoves, I would expect to see Ax a lot of the time.
I don't think that's the case since the raiser should be auto c-betting any ace-high board. Why not get the extra 1BB or 1/4 pot bet or whatever in first?