Strange river line – check turn, then raise river
5/5
~$800 effective
CO - Asian reg. Nothing too fancy so far, pretty straightforward game. But clearly playing for profit
CO opens to $20, Hero(BB) 2♠2♣ calls
Flop($45) 6♣ 6♥ 4♣
Hero x, CO bets $20, Hero calls
Turn($85) 3♥
x x
River($85) 3♠
Hero bets $65, CO tanks and raises to $220. Hero – ?
Like... what the hell is that? Why would he ever check back turn with a 6x?
Is anyone ever bluff-jamming here?
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Or he can have 66, 33
If you think he's bluffing, all you have to do is minclick it to get a fold from random bluffs.
Or he can have 66, 33
If you think he's bluffing, all you have to do is minclick it to get a fold from random bluffs.
Or you could just take a break, go to the bathroom, and flush $300 down the toilet.
Fold flop
An underbluffed line on an underbluffed board vs a sizing that is rarely bluff-raised...fold
Can you tell us more about what your river bet accomplishes?
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Does anyone see an argument for donking this flop? At any rate, I think donk>x/f>x/c on flop.
AP river: V's line is FOS, agreed. But so is H's. H bets all value (6x, 75s and sets) on turn.
V may be trying to raise us off of chops with Ax. But we have more nutted hands in range than V, so how can he raise? Our value combos should bet the turn and we x'd. This may have induced the river raise.
This is a situation where maybe V thinks we can level ourselves into folding stuff like 55 or 77 since V can have overpairs and we cannot.
If we raise, we can put V in a bad spot because we have the nut advantage on this board. He really would have to fold everything but AA. Even if he has AA, he blocks a lot of the busted NFDs/chops we might be using as bluffs.
It's hard not to be biased here, because there's no thread unless H hero-bluffs the river and gets V to fold. But in fairness, it seems like a good spot to bluff because we can have the nuts and V cannot, despite the error of our x on turn.
Does anyone see an argument for donking this flop? At any rate, I think donk>x/f>x/c on flop.AP river: V's line is FOS, agreed. But so is H's. H bets all value (6x, 75s and sets) on turn.V may be trying to raise us off of chops with Ax. But we have more nutted hands in range than V, so how can he raise? Our value combos should bet the turn and we x'd. This may have induced the
Where does x-r flop fall on your hierarchy? My first impulse reading this was where does V get off thinking they get to same bet flop here. But my pool has all sorts of LP Vs that overcall all suited aces
Agreed on relative range strength between H and V. Also agreed that everything is likely betting turn though.
Strange hand. Agree with OP, (and perhaps you, if I understand correctly) that a bluff jam might get through often enough to be better than calling and losing to JJ+, or folding.
Why can’t he check back a 6 on the turn so this happens? We are uncapped and he’s still raising, just fold.
