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President Donald Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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by coordi

Multiple 60+ year old republicans want you to believe that NATO leaders were bowing to trump and calling him daddy and my question is: on a scale of 0-10 how true do we think this is?


Oh so he was playing off an analogy and didn't literally call trump daddy while bowing to him like the lion king


Most of SF is either perfectly fine or just run of the mill big city ****

The maybe 15-20% of SF that sucks though is really really ****ing bad and basically what everyone assumes all of SF is


by coordi

Oh so he was playing off an analogy and didn't literally call trump daddy while bowing to him like the lion king

i think so. i don't know if there's other instances of NATO leaders calling him daddy as you suggested 60+ year old republicans are trying to get people to believe.


by d2_e4

ITT we learn that it's impossible to identify and arrest people for vagrancy, a law that has been on the books for *checks Google* over 200 years (in the UK, anyway).

I know of vagrancy, and I know homeless people wandering around are technically committing a crime in most places. It's also something that's been so tough to enforce and problematic in other ways that in many cases it's extremely low on the list of police to-dos.

by d2_e4

I'm not suggesting what should or shouldn't be done, merely that it the contention that it's impossible to identify homeless people (which seems to be what KoG is saying) is a little ridiculous.

Many times, it'll be very easy to identify a homeless person. Other times, when a highly worn looking person is being weird in a Starbucks...


i think the main issue is that nobody wants to give an honest appraisal of homelessness

in the overwhelming majority of cases it is due to mental health or addiction

they walk past "help wanted" signs every day and make no effort to even apply for it

it's not about economic opportunity - it's something else far more complex and harder to solve - but the libtard idea of "just throw money and compassion at them because they are only in that situation due to lack of opportunity" is complete nonsense as we see each and every time a city decides to throw money at the problem

same thing with rural poverty, a lot of people think that if they had better access to cheaper education they wouldn't grow up to become landscapers and gas station attendants - but i grew up amongst these people and if i had a penny for each time i was called a f a g for being such an idiot for going to college i'd be a very rich man

the blue collar culture openly disdains education - it's subconsciously copium and manifests itself as look at those stupid yuppies - just look at the n1h blog where he's a career coffee barista and despite having a pretty good head on his shoulders, absolutely despises anyone with an education or white collar job and routinely rejects efforts by starbucks to promote him to assistant manager because he see it as us vs them and would hate nothing more in life than to be one of them - meanwhile he still dreams of making it rich, only on his terms, not by being part of the machine he grew to hate - so of course he does it the urban blue collar way by trying to flip basketball shoes and limited edition supreme clothing drops

so even if you opened up a free university of exceptional quality back in my home town, very few would attend simply because they despise everything to do with that world and "have too much self respect" than to join in on it

i don't know what the solution is, but the biggest blunder the social justic left makes is assuming those people are coming in with the same hopes and dreams as you and i, they don't, which is specifically why they live in a manner so drastically different from our own lifestyles


by Karl_TheOG_Marx

Many times, it'll be very easy to identify a homeless person. Other times, when a highly worn looking person is being weird in a Starbucks...

I think it's the ones that are easy to identify that are the problem, as it were. Nobody cares if you're broke and crashing on your buddy's sofa or in your car and are technically homeless. They do care if you start aggressively begging or shooting up heroin down the nearest alley, though.


by rickroll

just look at the n1h blog

Who is n1h


by StoppedRainingMen

Most of SF is either perfectly fine or just run of the mill big city ****

The maybe 15-20% of SF that sucks though is really really ****ing bad and basically what everyone assumes all of SF is

i think it's done in bad faith if you think it's acceptable that 20% of a city is an utter shlt hole and if you think we're saying that there's no nice or average parts but the entire thing is like tenderloin

try to do better than exemplify the soft bigotry of low expectations

it's one of, if not the wealthiest region in the world, it can do better - if you traveled the world and saw other cities you'd see how attainable that is


I worked at a homeless shelter in Santa Cruz for about a year and a half when I lived there and I can tell you with absolute confidence if I lived that life for even a month I would absolutely spend every moment of my waking life drunk or high to get through it. It is a brutal, unforgiving life, often violent, always desperate, a very oversimplified issue with no solution that works without a massive investment we as a society are too selfish to be willing to sign off on


Meh. 20% is a high estimate I’m making off hand while multitasking

Point being, yes, there are areas of SF are total trash but that is the story of every major metropolis on earth


by housenuts

Who is n1h

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/85/he...


by StoppedRainingMen

I worked at a homeless shelter in Santa Cruz for about a year and a half when I lived there and I can tell you with absolute confidence if I lived that life for even a month I would absolutely spend every moment of my waking life drunk or high to get through it. It is a brutal, unforgiving life, often violent, always desperate, a very oversimplified issue with no solution that

you fail to realize that they are in that life because they started living every moment drunk or high before they became homeless

again, soft bigotry of low expectations - "it's hard being homeless, let them get wasted instead of getting a job"


I mean sure we can always go full Hank Scorpio


by rickroll

i think the main issue is that nobody wants to give an honest appraisal of homelessnessin the overwhelming majority of cases it is due to mental health or addictionthey walk past "help wanted" signs every day and make no effort to even apply for itit's not about economic opportunity - it's something else far more complex and harder to solve - but the libtard idea of "just throw

by StoppedRainingMen

I worked at a homeless shelter in Santa Cruz for about a year and a half when I lived there and I can tell you with absolute confidence if I lived that life for even a month I would absolutely spend every moment of my waking life drunk or high to get through it. It is a brutal, unforgiving life, often violent, always desperate, a very oversimplified issue with no solution that

I think the truth is somewhere in the middle of these two takes.

Some people will never get better no matter what, and some people could instantly get off the street with like 5k in cash


This is speaking in generalities but,

The in-your-face homelessness that people talk about is almost all drug addiction and mental issues

The down-on-your-luck-just-5k-away homeless are as far out of the way as they can possibly be because of the general shame

There isn't much you can do about the first group because it doesn't matter how much anyone wants it if they don't want it themselves, but thats the group that causes all the problems.


by StoppedRainingMen

I mean sure we can always go full Hank Scorpio

excellent reference 😀


by Luciom

and if immigration had been in smaller quantities, existing housing would be enough anyway.

and until housing is fixed, it's comically insane to keep increasing the population with immigration

make the "housing crisis" a national security issue (trump loves using it) and you could solve it in less then 2-3 years imo if not less.


by Luciom

no Montreal.

as per the data I provided people making less than 50k per year voted far less for the socialist candidate than people making more than that.

please stick to reality, not your dreams

what AI says

AI Overview
U.S. median income trends by generation : r/MiddleClassFinance
The median income for millennials varies, but it generally falls between $44,093 and $46,900 per year. A more specific figure for millennials aged 25-34 is roughly $46,900 annually. However, income can vary significantly based on factors like education, experience, and location. For example, millennials in Massachusetts report a higher median income than in other parts of the US.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:

Overall Millennial Income:
The average pre-tax income for millennials is around $51,000, but this can be influenced by outliers and isn't necessarily the median.

Age Range Focus:
For those aged 25-34, the median income is closer to $46,900.

the letter was about millennials.
and they focus on more socialism.
seem i was right .

ps: people do not necessarily vote for or against socialism, they maybe vote for other reasons....


by coordi

In that thread I proposed that there could logically be a subset of "white pride" that fully acknowledges that being a minority generally is worse than being the majority which is largely the justification behind the white replacement conspiracy theory that people like Stephen Miller and Elon Musk find so concerning. Very few people ever frame it like that though, its always ab

They definitely let the mask slip over this zohran thing



I've noticed that most right wing posters here never talk about Stephen Miller.

I don't see how any right winger can claim to be a reasonable person while supporting this guy as the 2nd most influential and powerful person in the country. And if you don't support him, what the **** are you even doing? This is what the current administration stands for. This is who they are and what they want.


by coordi

I've noticed that most right wing posters here never talk about Stephen Miller.I don't see how any right winger can claim to be a reasonable person while supporting this guy as the 2nd most influential and powerful person in the country. And if you don't support him, what the **** are you even doing? This is what the current administration stands for. This is who they are an

Once you talk about Stephen miller and implicitly cross into the white replacement theory bullshit you’re drawing a line in the sand where you either let the mask slip or betray your fundamental principles by lying and saying you’re not down for the cause

But you can’t lose if you don’t play. That’s why I’m confident Lucy will wake up and post 600 times about how miller makes good points so nobody else has to reveal too much


Miller point is false for NYC though.

Whites voted for the Marxist much more than Latinos and blacks did.

Otoh during the campaign and later there was no hiding the fact that democrats want to import future democrat voters which is why they don't want to filter immigrants.

When people oppose TPS and other blanket programs that allow a lot of people to stay in the USA even if they are mismatched with current job openings, or are net tax takers, they routinely mention the fact.

Anchor baby talk is another thing that is mentioned a lot.

I don't understand the claim that people purportedly hide the fact they don't want low quality immigrants to enter the country because, among other things, they and their children become natural democrat voters


by coordi

This is speaking in generalities but,The in-your-face homelessness that people talk about is almost all drug addiction and mental issuesThe down-on-your-luck-just-5k-away homeless are as far out of the way as they can possibly be because of the general shame

Problem is the bold is false. You can criminalize their disruptive behavior and get rid of them with law enforcement. It just requires political will.

Or, among other things, you can have asylums again (although that would require the state to act not localities I think).

And btw if you are right, then spending 100k/year on each one of them is a scam and should stop


by StoppedRainingMen

Meh. 20% is a high estimate I’m making off hand while multitasking

Point being, yes, there are areas of SF are total trash but that is the story of every major metropolis on earth

SF is not a "major metropolis". My city is 500k people and there is no area that is even vaguely as trashy as those areas of SF.

There isn't any in Zurich either. Or Tokyo (which is actually a major metropolis).

And in Europe in general no areas of big cities are trashy normally unless they are full of immigrants (Naples and Marseille are the exceptions).

What's almost unique of rich American cities is having trash areas that are trash because of citizens

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