President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
What just happened to NYC? How could this happen in the Americas? I get it happening in Europe.
The young people in this country need to be reeducated.
Then you just sound brainwashed because sf isn’t a **** hole by any objective measure
Vancouver largely based it’s development off the play book San Francisco created
i guess you missed the tents lining the roads and the fecal matter all over the place.
yes, there are wonderful parts, but also horrible parts.
East Hastings is much like SF, yes.
I didn’t realize isolated tent cities made a city a **** hole. I guess you were on a humanitarian trip where you specifically went to areas with high homeless density
(I know you didn’t do this and didn’t really experience abject homelessness)
It’s always funny to me how revolted people are that the homeless magically settle in nicer cities and that they really give zero ****s what happen to those people as long as they just don’t have to look at them.
Maybe we should bus all our homeless to Italy or something
To put it this way; is San Francisco a **** hole because homeless people live there or do homeless people live there because it’s a great place to live. We may never know
It’s always funny to me how revolted people are that the homeless magically settle in nicer cities and that they really give zero ****s what happen to those people as long as they just don’t have to look at them.
I think it's more about the complete ineptitude, inefficiency, and potential fraud of the government spending that does little to fix the problem.
legal mechanism?!?Dog, I think the city's underclass should band together, storm his offices, flip that mother****er upside down and shake him until enough money falls out to feed and house people. I think we should send him to prison unless he ships 95% of his wealth to those who need it.Trying to use legal mechanisms against the rich, within a system they created, and in whi
I'm sure you realize that this isn't a plan for funding a city budget. This is just a plan for how to go to prison.
I think there are lots of much better plans than deporting them to a random country that doesn’t want them and is facing massive political instability.And while the SC overturned the TRO, that doesn’t mean they’ll find it legal once it processes through the system, it just means they are not allowing the TRO to stand. So I wouldn’t read too much into that.Imo they should negoti
Well I repeatedly wrote "for now" wrt the legality.
I don't know what's up with Vietnam and why they refuse to take their citizens back, but in general the countries refusing are those with which no diplomatic channel exists for other reasons (or whatever exists is very thin for other reasons), like Venezuela or Cuba or Iran.
Places where pressures aren't working for more important stuff so you can't expect them to work for this.
It's not for the lulz btw, it is for deterrence.
The alternative is obviously you have to keep them and that's a non starter to begin with.
I think it's more about the complete ineptitude, inefficiency, and potential fraud of the government spending that does little to fix the problem.
The problem is the people do drugs, or have untreated mental disorders, or social disabilities. They can’t help themselves.
What’s your solution to someone who wants to slowly waste away on the streets of somewhere with a good climate?
They’ve tried most things short of execution
Anyway states can establish wealth taxes and that's not controversial under the federal constitution (it's the federal government who can't establish one), unless ofc that state constitution forbids them.
And counties might be allowed to set wealth taxes as well, depending on the state.
But Musk isn't a resident of SF for fiscal purpsoes so those taxes wouldn't apply to him
Sure. You can pass wealth taxes, but they won't touch the billionaire class if they are levied at the local/county level. To state the obvious, the billionaire class is highly mobile. I'm not convinced that they would touch the billionaire class that much even if levied at the federal level, but they certainly wouldn't if levied at the local/county level.
lol @ pretending SF hasn't had squatters everywhere since the summer of love.
stop having shitty states that your kids want to flee
It’s always funny to me how revolted people are that the homeless magically settle in nicer cities and that they really give zero ****s what happen to those people as long as they just don’t have to look at them.Maybe we should bus all our homeless to Italy or somethingTo put it this way; is San Francisco a **** hole because homeless people live there or do homeless people live
Nice dodge of the issue as presented.
The issue is how can democrats be so incredibly bad (or corrupt) at their job that they can't fix homelessness with a multiple of the money needed to buy a house for every one of them?
Nice dodge of the issue as presented.
The issue is how can democrats be so incredibly bad (or corrupt) at their job that they can't fix homelessness with a multiple of the money needed to buy a house for every one of them?
You would first have to present a humane solution that has fixed homelessness to contextual failure
Because all you are doing is noting that current efforts have been unsuccessful without identifying why
You are irresponsibly speculating as to why
If they're refusing to take this bloke they've presumably revoked his citizenship. Governments aren't supposed to do this if it leaves the person stateless, but they do anyway if they really don't want someone, as Britain and Bangladesh did in the case of that 'ISIS bride' woman.
You would first have to present a humane solution that has fixed homelessness to contextual failure
Because all you are doing is noting that current efforts have been unsuccessful without identifying why
The why is "there are democrats in charge of those efforts" basically.
So you first start by removing from power people who failed continuously for 50 years to fix a problem even while throwing ever-growing piles of money at it.
At least those specific democrats, you clean the slate of them.
For California specifically Shellenberger run with a reasonable approach to the problem , identifying what democrats mismanaged about it and how to fix it (and urban crime in general).
Nice dodge of the issue as presented.
The issue is how can democrats be so incredibly bad (or corrupt) at their job that they can't fix homelessness with a multiple of the money needed to buy a house for every one of them?
Ironically part of the problem is red states/cities not solving their homeless problem and instead kicking them out. Red states are basically parasites off of the blue states.
Cities have been offering homeless people free bus tickets to relocate elsewhere for at least three decades. In recent years, homeless relocation programs have become more common, sprouting up in new cities across the country and costing the public millions of dollars.
But until now there has never been a systematic, nationwide assessment of the consequences. Where are these people being moved to? What impact are these programs having on the cities that send and the cities that receive them? And what happens to these homeless people after they reach their destination?
In an 18-month investigation, the Guardian has conducted the first detailed analysis of America’s homeless relocation programs, compiling a database of around 34,240 journeys and analyzing their effect on cities and people.
The why is "there are democrats in charge of those efforts" basically.So you first start by removing from power people who failed continuously for 50 years to fix a problem even while throwing ever-growing piles of money at it.At least those specific democrats, you clean the slate of them.For California specifically Shellenberger run with a reasonable approach to the problem ,
No one wants the disgusting and authoritarian policies of red states so nah
The why is "there are democrats in charge of those efforts" basically.So you first start by removing from power people who failed continuously for 50 years to fix a problem even while throwing ever-growing piles of money at it.At least those specific democrats, you clean the slate of them.For California specifically Shellenberger run with a reasonable approach to the problem ,
Stop begging the question
A stunningly brilliant soul read from the guy who knows nothing about Communism yet regards himself as an expert on it because his mother expelled him from her womb somewhere within the geographical area of the USSR
It's not like I've made similar statements to the one in question twenty billion times on this forum...
I assume this is some kinda gotcha for some dumb reason or another. Regardless, it's utterly irrelevant to anything I'm talking about.
The rich have too much money. The poor have not enough money. We need to take it from the former and give it to the latter. I am highly interested in improving the material conditions of the poor, (which, also, automatically makes the place in which they reside less of a "shithole" the conservatives are terrified of) and it appears as though Rococo-style incrementalism isn't getting it done.
A stunningly brilliant soul read from the guy who knows nothing about Communism yet regards himself as an expert on it because his mother expelled him from her womb somewhere within the geographical area of the USSR
Quite honestly, even without that personal experience, I can pretty confidently say that it sounds like a really, really **** idea. But we need not rely on my admittedly suspect intuition - we have plenty of empirical evidence from every time it has actually been attempted.
For California specifically Shellenberger run with a reasonable approach to the problem , identifying what democrats mismanaged about it and how to fix it (and urban crime in general).
Michael Shellenberger is a deeply stupid and evil creep, so, on brand. Interesting to see he's still pumping up Bari Weiss' University of Austin grift. Wasn't sure that was still around.
lololol, your guy's Twitter background is an orange sign that just says "Defund The Thought Police". Corny-ass mother****er.
Most days, we get up and think everything’s fine. We are alive, we are housed, and we are members of society we call a nation. Within the borders of that nation, we don’t let foreigners poison our children.
But we do let foreigners poison our children.
Classic "foreigners", always looking to drug sweet white children at opportunity 1! Nothing xenophobic or racist going on here!
Quite honestly, even without that personal experience, I can pretty confidently say that it sounds like a really, really **** idea. But we need not rely on my admittedly suspect intuition - we have plenty of empirical evidence from every time it has actually been attempted.
the bolded is a very stupid thing that anti-Communists love to say; and of course it's purely devoid of any honest analysis, context, etc., etc., just something somebody copied out of one of Thomas Sowell's works and has been passed around as real wisdom for decades
Have you taken into account that the US and other nations instantly attempt to squash any legit left-wing movements, basically anywhere on Earth? Could the fact that Cuba is not a rich nation have something to do with decades of severe economic sanctions placed upon it from its superpower neighbor? Are you familiar with the US' (particularly CIA) prolific list of coups (most certainly including of those elected democratically) and major disruptions throughout Central and South America?
I don't recall any legit answer from you when we've asked these things in the past, it's more just like, "oh, bread lines this, gulags that", just Capitalist Apologia 101 that has been refuted for... not sure, a really long time.
Just for the record, do you outright prefer American-style capitalism to all other economic systems? Do you think it leads towards the best outcomes for struggling people? Do you think that the world's richest person works a mile or two away from countless hungry and homeless people on the street is a neato fact about the world?
I'm curious as to JUST HOW DEEPLY you suck off the Musks of the world.
