President Donald Trump

Gonna be less of a "great thing for the entire world" when the oil market is severely disrupted and a gallon of gas costs $12, but at least we'll be cool here, as not very many people in America drive cars.

naw, it's cool, we are oil independent remember?

well if they lie its even better 😀

No.

Russia
Saudi Arabia
Angola
Iraq
Oman
and then Iran

oops, that was 2019, more recently in 2024 Iran isn't even in the top 15. (Russia, Malaysia, SA, Iraq, UAE, Oman, Australia, USA, Brazil, Indonesia, Qatar, Angola, Kuwait, Turkmenistan, Mongolia)

Okay, thanks. I see I conflated that most of Iran's oil goes to China with China gets most of their oil from Iran because I'm a reetard.

As if regime change wasn't the entire goal from the outset. Trump just can't keep his mouth shut.

the liberals are fully behind regime change in Iran. they are just mad that Trump is so uncouth about it.

If that's true, why didn't Biden take out Iran? Why didn't Obama take out Iran?

Biden or Kamala absolutely would have. did you listen to their rhetoric during the last 2 years and esp during the campaign? they had to knock out Lebanon and Syria first. they had to solidify the genocide in Gaza first.

now the Western world is perfectly fine with murdering 100s of starving Gazans a day. they are fine with ISIS extremists murdering 10s of thousands of minorities in Syria including blowing up a church today. it takes a little time to get the public to ignore bombing hospitals and sniping children. but, hey, we did it Joe! its just too bad the Dems cant reap the rewards of their work and need to sit back while Trump takes all the credit.

lololol

I am skeptical there is any actual plan and this is anything more than Trump trolling.

No. They would have restrained Israeli offensive action against Iran and its proxies by withholding necessary weaponry, while still supplying defensive munitions, and pressured Israel to negotiate temporary ceasefires, allowing Iran and its proxies to keep their firepower and the ability to resume hostilities at their discretion.

And possibly there would have been a weak nuclear deal giving Iran even more room to maneuver in the region and allowing Iran to keep its 60% enriched uranium as leverage.

Now I am not saying that is a worse scenario for the US than however this pans out. I really dont know. But that is most likely what would have happened.

Right. I was thinking the same thing when they were in power for 4 years.

China's energy supply would be much more compromised if Iran "closed the Persian Gulf" much more than if they stopped receiving Iranian oil.

Russia would be a massive beneficiary if Iran closed the Gulf, and domestic US oil suppliers would also benefit. But all the big domestic oil companies also operate in the Gulf, so would possible hurt they overall bottom line.

They were weeks away from bombing iran

unlike you I actually watched what they did and what they said. during the campaign they even positioned themselves as the hardliners against Iran and called Trump weak.

even right, has Kamala spoken out against this? have any of the centrist establishment Dems said anything in opposition to this war?

and ABC news reported just today that the Dems practiced these attacks almost a year ago.

Mmmm, yeah, she might have done something crazy like have Iran sign a nuke deal that Trump tore up.

It’d be kinda funny if Biden took a break from mainlining ice cream and having his family jerk him off and put out statements like - Bro, I was gonna bomb Iran on DAY ONE. Trump is WEAK.

I don't think the world is impervious to ww3 by any means, I just feel we aren't as close to an legitimate war with China as some people may think. Russia, yes. But again, just my opinion, and I am certainly no expert, just a rando on the internet.

But China is still highly dependent on us for tech. I'm seeing that China imports 300 billion worth of semiconductors alone. They certainly want to build their economy and the US does hold a military edge over them as of right now - even without Europe.

But yeah, anything can happen because humans are dumb. Putin can just lose it and decide he's willing to bring down the world out of frustration and has the power to do it, same with Trump to an extent.

And who knows if ww3 is even fought in the same manner of bombings and killings like the last war 80 years ago. It could be a world of software failures and outages, or pandemics. Who could know.

"Beta cucks". That's hilarious.

Imagine whining that Iran's nuclear program was pretty much obliterated.

Yea bro, bombed them all the way back to 2018. Hard to say what happened right them that led to a massive increase in their hike program.

2018? ahh ****, I'm pretty sure that means they are 2-weeks from having DA BOMB!!!!!!11

When a government is developing nuclear weapons and saying they are going to use them to obliterate the devil of Israel and attack the USA, what is the alternative? Waiting for it to happen to make sure you don't violate their rights or autonomy doesn't seem a great option?

At that point, the threat makes self-defense reasonable and rightful. When you are the one that can stop it and you don't, that doesn't seem very moral. It's more complicated than that, but that point seems to supersede most other points. I'm not for so-called superpowers interfering with a people's autonomy, but I am for them interfering with a government's policy of nuclear conflagration.