President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
And how would that be authoritarian? It was either legal or illegal but where is the use of actual violence to limit other people freedom?I thought authoritarianism was about the use of violence against body or property .Btw just checked Britannica uses authoritarianism, about politics, to mean "against the principles of liberal democracy", so if something is allowed in liberal
You don’t think using emergency Powers under false pretext to expand your power , bypassing constitution power (like congress) and disregarding the rule of law ( by not respecting judicial decision) isnt authoritarian in nature ?
Where is the violence in that or attack on property ?
Yeah I guess the meaning of life is more then property .
Incorrect.
Very incorrect.
F for effort, F for attainment. At this rate we might have to send you to some sort of remedial reading class along with mongy and BJ and your other little friends who like to sit at the back and goof off all day.
See that would be authoritarian; sending people to re education camps against their will because you disagree with their definition of a word is textbook authoritarianism (and... Illegal)
I’m sure an anti gun person dressed up protesting in a nra event would be gladly receive too…
The gun folks wouldn't look and act like the people in my video. They are rational, reasonably dressed good citizens of this country. They would have dealt with anti gun perp immediately. They wouldn't have followed him around and spit on him and stick signs in his face. They would have been mad. The difference is they aren't perpetually outraged like the nut cases at the SF rally.
And how would that be authoritarian? It was either legal or illegal but where is the use of actual violence to limit other people freedom?I thought authoritarianism was about the use of violence against body or property .Btw just checked Britannica uses authoritarianism, about politics, to mean "against the principles of liberal democracy", so if something is allowed in liberal
I'm not going to write out a long response, but I disagree with virtually every word of this, but . Between my post #59132 (which you never really responded to) and d2's posts, all these questions have been answered. At this point, I honestly don't know whether you are being dishonest or whether you are so far gone on this issue that you can't even comprehend the flaws in your argument. Either way, I don't think it is worth it for me to continue the discussion.
See that would be authoritarian; sending people to re education camps against their will because you disagree with their definition of a word is textbook authoritarianism (and... Illegal)
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The concept of assimilation, in the context of culture, refers to the process by which individuals or groups adopt the dominant culture, social structures, or ideology of a society. While related to cultural adaptation, it is distinct from authoritarianism, which refers to a political system
No, the reason Trump is president is the prevalence of dumb**** fascist bootlickers like you.
I am surrounded by Trump voters. I guarantee the reason they voted for Trump was because of the craziness and creepiness of the left. Believe it or not, most Trump voters don't even like Trump. The hard core MAGA's love him though. If you people just toned down the weirdness and constant outrage just a little you might have a chance.
See that would be authoritarian; sending people to re education camps against their will because you disagree with their definition of a word is textbook authoritarianism (and... Illegal)
Who said anything about "re"? I'm saying none of you ****ers can read.
I am surrounded by Trump voters. I guarantee the reason they voted for Trump was because of the craziness and creepiness of the left. Believe it or not, most Trump voters don't even like Trump. The hard core MAGA's love him though. If you people just toned down the weirdness and constant outrage just a little you might have a chance.
You'll forgive me if I don't trust your judgement of.... anything.
Not even on the quality of every single porn site that ever porned? Never let it be said that mongidig isn't an expert in that particular field. And by that I mean porn.
Somehow, I doubt that he and I have similar tastes.
I am surrounded by Trump voters. I guarantee the reason they voted for Trump was because of the craziness and creepiness of the left. Believe it or not, most Trump voters don't even like Trump. The hard core MAGA's love him though. If you people just toned down the weirdness and constant outrage just a little you might have a chance.
Supposedly Trump's advantage in the election was that he attracted the votes of 'disengaged voters', people who don't usually vote. They don't consume media news and they get their political ideas from talking with family, friends and coworkers, mostly about how the economy affects them. Which you might snobbily call 'low-information', but it's hardly unreasonable. These people are unlikely to align with some of the more, let's say 'imaginative' proposals and programmes offered by Democrats, for instance in the social-engineering field. But they are also the first and fastest voters to stop supporting Trump if they don't think he's doing well, which they often don't as they're not seeing an economic benefit.
There is also a theory that Trump voters distrust American public and political institutions, for which they have their reasons.
Doesn't help when their family, friends, coworkers and communities are being branded as stupid, bigoted racists. Who at best are being condescended to.
Doesn't help when their family, friends, coworkers and communities are being branded as stupid, bigoted racists. Who at best are being condescended to.
Isn't that actually the MAGA brand though? Trump loves the uneducated, build the wall etc.
I don't know the breakdown by percentages, but a very significant chunk of Trump voters are wealthy, educated whites, small business owners, etc., the kind of people with whom ecriture identifies.
Everyone holds this dumb idea that like 90% of Trump's supporters are toothless crackers in the holler hooked on fent. No. There exist hundreds of thousands of country club reactionaries of the campfirewest mold.
COUNTLESS small-business creeps with a 50k truck and a nice house in a wealthy suburban/exurban environment voted for Trump. Just spend 5 minutes driving around Tampa FL if you don't believe me.
and, of course, judging the content of someone's character, ideology, and/or worthiness in society by their level of raw intelligence and/or academic credentials is deeply evil and deeply stupid
I don't know the breakdown by percentages, but a very significant chunk of Trump voters are wealthy, educated whites, small business owners, etc., the kind of people with whom ecriture identifies.Everyone holds this dumb idea that like 90% of Trump's supporters are toothless crackers in the holler hooked on fent. No. There exist hundreds of thousands of country club reactiona
Maybe there is a distinction between maga (trump voters) ) and republican voters .
The ones u quote are probably life long Republican .
Dictators wonnabe NEVER give up centralized power; they redirect it to their own uses.
A dictator wonnabe wouldn't cut international aid, he would redirect it to targets he gains from helping.
A dictator wonnabe doesn't attempt to dismantle the department of education. It uses it to reshape education in ways that conform with his preferences
The govt is going to keep spending on many kinds of things usaid was into--it was essentially privatized. The last dude in charge already has one formed. So now the money will be going to private companies with far less oversight. Instead of the govt version now we'll have the blackwater style versions.
Lots of the cutting basically has that effect--so instead of trump having some dept potentially in his hair what they were doing is pulled more directly into his hands. The same amount of power is still there it's just in fewer hands.
Maybe there is a distinction between maga (trump voters) ) and republican voters .
The ones u quote are probably life long Republican .
Baseline voters like that probably wouldn't be the deciding factor, as US presidential elections are decided in the swing states, by atypical voters either switching or else voting when they normally wouldn't vote.
Maybe there is a distinction between maga (trump voters) ) and republican voters .
The ones u quote are probably life long Republican .
The people I'm talking about are indeed life-long Republicans. I think we disagree on the level of distinction between Trump fans and the rest of the Republican base (to which you allude). To me, there is very little difference between the two. Both groups are anti-democratic (check out what the GOP did in the 2000 election to see some hardcore anti-democratic stuff), both love tax cuts to the wealthy (Trump's tax cut for the rich is seen by both groups as one of the greatest "achievements" of his first term), both are cool with foreign policy "misadventures", to put it kindly, both are reactionary socially (Trump fans are maybe SLIGHTLY less homophobic and transphobic than the rest, although they're all equally racist), etc., etc.
I've heard people say Trump "hijacked the party". No, he just morphed it a bit to better suit his own concerns.
I don't know the breakdown by percentages, but a very significant chunk of Trump voters are wealthy, educated whites, small business owners, etc., the kind of people with whom ecriture identifies.Everyone holds this dumb idea that like 90% of Trump's supporters are toothless crackers in the holler hooked on fent. No. There exist hundreds of thousands of country club reactiona
The country club reactionaries in California and NY voted for Trump. I know that there a lot of them in Nor Cal.
But Im seeing Trump won 64% of whites without a college degree. And if I look at the Appalachia and the Midwest vote, he crushed the low-income toothless voter base which likely had a higher turnout.
Supposedly Trump's advantage in the election was that he attracted the votes of 'disengaged voters', people who don't usually vote. They don't consume media news and they get their political ideas from talking with family, friends and coworkers, mostly about how the economy affects them. Which you might snobbily call 'low-information', but it's hardly unreasonable. These people
I think if we are going to play the "one reason why" Trump won, it would be that there very little to be inspired about with Kamala - and I think people need that to get out and vote. Obama had that type of persuasive talk that motivated folks - although we were in a recession which definitely helped.
Like I've said before, nobody gives a **** when Kamala stands up in front of in orchestrated crowd, designed to clap at all of her talking points. The left didn't like her and the libs voted for her to prevent Trump from winning. That isn't a winning strat.
You need someone who can speak with conviction, has the courage to go on fukcing Joe Rogan of all, but can galvanize an audience, even if the stances might be a little off - because a lot folks don't know the difference anyways and Fox news is going to do their thing there anyway. Bernie could have potentially done better against Trump for those reasons, but I don't think anyone could have beat Trump that year.
I think the "one reason why" was the attempted assassination with him surviving because of like one centimeter.
That happened with a timing that crushed the surge in polls by Harris (which wasn't the official candidate yet but people knew she was going to be) , and even with all democrat media spending their best efforts to spin it badly, it was still an epic, heroic, unprecedented moment in western history.
The "fight fight fight" moments after having being shot demonstrated some genuine, unrehearsed deep heroism and strength that other people might have but rarely has the occasion to come out like that in a way that proves beyond reasonable doubt you are made to lead and inspire others.
No matter how much you can hate him or his antics in other more frequent and down to earth occasions that he had that spirit to come out like that with that immediacy disregarding his own life for the message was truly unique.
In a world full of fake theater, including the huge amount of trash trump himself promoted, that event elevated trump in a different, special way.
While im at it i dont think the dems fully understand that there is a diff between Bernie winning against his field for the nom and winning against the gop.
I mean im a pro cap, gun toting rednexk and i would have snap voted for Bernie over Trump. There was likely a meaningull amount of people, the broke toothless ones, that could have been persuaded into. Oting for Bernie for reasons related to class warfare and the working class - kamala not so much.
