Is this easy fold preflop?
2/2 blinds are 2 but 5 to call
8 handed live
This is my first time playing omaha live.
Just sat down and immediately doubled up with AA and flop set.
We have 950ish stack.
couple limpers then a guy in Mp pots it to 25
We have 8764 double suited, call in Co
Btn calls
Sb calls
BB with 200 stack(just rebought), pots it to 160
2 callers including Mp
We call
Btn calls
Sb shoves for like 700 total
BB calls
+2 shove for like 500 total
Mp shove cover the table
Back to hero, we already invested 160, we have 790ish behind.
Btn cover us as well and most likely call?
Do we have pot odds to gamble here?
Or is this a pure fold everyday.
We should've folded to the 3bet?
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You should have been the one to 3b if you wanted to play this hand.
Once u faced a 3b/4b multi-way it’s a clear and easy fold
Suits are irrelevant as they should in theory both be dead and you are just playing a low vs whales who are way too loose here and prolly blocking your outs.
Easy fold
Your hand doesn’t play well multi way like a similar hand might in NL. Your best flops are bottom two and a gutter or a wrap and fd where the fd is dominated.
That said after you call the 160 it’s close. If two of them have aces you’re printing. If a few of them share high cards you’re also in decent shape. Someone will need to run the equities vs their approximate ranges which might be very difficult to approximate
When it’s close, if we came with unlimited rebuys we should increase variance. If we lose we reload, no big deal. If we bust the table this game is gonna get real good 😃
I'm wondering what sort of loss this makes to get this in versus solver ranges and try to work out how much effective overlay we'd need to overcome to make this a profitable get-in by virtue of them playing bad ranges.
If, and these spots do come up sometimes, you can pin both players as like 80%+ to both have AA, and in a 3-way pot, I believe we have enough equity to get it in.
I don't fold hands as pretty as this pre to a single bet in a cash game, and though a 3b pre is probably good I don't know that it's required. Given btn and sb have both flatted once rather than squeezed, it's relatively unlikely taht either of them will choose to re-open the action. Now it's happened, it's possible this is a call, it's possible this is a fold due to rake structure. There are indirect reasons to fold or call here that might be in play - how much of a roll do you have overall, how much cash do you have with you, if you scoop is everyone else gonna tilt, are they all gonna rebuy or could this break the table if the wrong person wins. Obv you don't know the answers to this question having just sat down but I can also see folding just on the basis you've got a stack to protect now and this is probably a highly profitable table given the action so far.
Spoiler
I ended up folding.
Btn call
Sb had akjt double suited and won
Bb had AA
The rest had trash.
We would've won if we called board was 64kj6
Turns out this is super fishy table.
+2 and Mp are mega maniac that have 0 clue, all they do is pot pot pot with any hand.
Won like 4k+ in 3 hours mostly from Mp and some from +2. Mp had at least 7k when we sat down, +2 had maybe 1.5k and rebought a few times, they both busted when they left.