President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
RoCo
Haven’t been following the nyc mayors race, like, at all. Is cuomo actually expected to win? My understanding is that pre covid and post scandal he was viscerally despised by most of New York
Would be a pretty big upset if Cuomo lost. He sucks but does well with older working class outer borough types. Progressive politicians seem really out of touch with the working class......like when I heard Sanders and AOC were going on a Fighting Oligarchy Tour I thought that is what critics were derisively referring to it as, not what they actually called it lol.
Brother you realize how easy it is to get appointed to commissions, right? And that they rarely have any type of personal relationships to the people that appointed them?
Anyway, I will have to wait a few days to comment because I’m not a neanderthal who tries to speculate on murders right after they happen.
The comments in that thread are absolutely reetarded. It's hilarious to hear the cult of maga talk about the action Dems will take when a "politician crosses party lines" when no motive has even been determined yet, but just a few years ago they were beating police and wanting to hang their party's vice president for doing his constitutional duty.
Oh, you know, they're protesting over the type of president that says "there will be serious consequences" to the most successful businessman if he donates to the opposing political party. You know, typical authoritarian and wannabe dictatorship shiit that you're oblivious to because your made in China MAGA hat is strapped on too tight.
I went to a No Kings protest as well. Seemed more on the left-liberal than outright commie side. Most people are just angry about the authoritarianism of Trump and the persecution of undocumented workers.
As I'm sure you know, the original focus in LA obviously started in relation to ICE and immigration issues. But at this point, at least in NYC, it was just a broad anti-Trump protest.
Lol ya. Emergency rooms turn down all sorts of people if they deem it not to be an emergency. The clue is in the name.
Oh, you know, they're protesting over the type of president that says "there will be serious consequences" to the most successful businessman if he donates to the opposing political party. You know, typical authoritarian and wannabe dictatorship shiit that you're oblivious to because your made in China MAGA hat is strapped on too tight.
Solid answer LOL. LOL was for your initials, not b/c I think you're ridiculous LOL. OK that one meant I'm laughing at you out loud.
What I mean is why are they calling it 'No Kings'? There's a better chance of me getting pregnant than there ever being an American king. See it's funny b/c I'm a guy so it's impossible. Wait, can I say that in here or is that banworthy?
So the protests are essentially "We don't like Trump". Well no ****, most people don't, me included. What my question was getting at is: Either this protest is a continuation of the anti-ICE demonstrations, or it's a fear of Trump not leaving office after his 2nd term, I guess? If it's the former, be detailed in regard to what you're upset about and focus the message, otherwise this is all just performative theater. If it's the latter, wait until he's about finished with the term and remind him of the 22nd Amendment. Everyone will have forgotten this happened by mid-July.
RoCo
Haven’t been following the nyc mayors race, like, at all. Is cuomo actually expected to win? My understanding is that pre covid and post scandal he was viscerally despised by most of New York
He is projected to win. 2 years ago, I also thought he was politically dead. But for better or worse, he has 10x the name recognition of any other candidates. And I suppose that his pugnacious demeanor appeals to some people. But as I said, I am no Cuomo fan.
Although I expect Cuomo to win, I would not be surprised if Zohran outperformed the polls. His supporters have seized on "Don't Rank Cuomo" as a battle cry, and I think that is very smart in a ranked choice election. I know that I am very disinclined to rank an autocratic dickhead in a ranked choice Democratic primary, especially during a period in which authoritarianism is rising generally.
Solid answer LOL. LOL was for your initials, not b/c I think you're ridiculous LOL. OK that one meant I'm laughing at you out loud.What I mean is why are they calling it 'No Kings'? There's a better chance of me getting pregnant than there ever being an American king. See it's funny b/c I'm a guy so it's impossible. Wait, can I say that in here or is that banworthy?So the prote
I believe the origin of calling it the “no kings” protest is due to the ruling in Trump v United States that gave the president broad immunity powers. Furthermore, Trump’s actions in many respects are authoritarian, including going out of process to nationalize the National Guard and deploy marines on US soil. I think most people who are attending don’t have much of an issue knowing what the protests are about or what their demands are from Trump.
And in general calling a protest performative is a little bit tautological. Part of the definition of a protest is that it is performative. So you’re not really adding much to the conversation by calling it that, unless you have some definition of a protest that does not involve performative behavior.
Light rain in NYC. There was a very big crowd and it was peaceful. I would have felt safe bringing a young child. Police presence was lighter than expected and there was zero back and forth with the police.
I believe the origin of calling it the “no kings” protest is due to the ruling in Trump v United States that gave the president broad immunity powers.
So we have a man who won a US election both by electoral college and popular vote winning a Supreme Court case. Seems like the normal system at work. Yeah it sucks but what's the alternative, dismantling the system?
Furthermore, Trump’s actions in many respects are authoritarian, including going out of process to nationalize the National Guard and deploy marines on US soil. I think most people who are attending don’t have much of an issue knowing what the protests are about or what their demands are from Trump.
And in general calling a protest performative is a little bit tautological. Part of the definition of a protest is that it is performative. So you’re not really adding much to the conversation by calling it that, unless you have some definition of a protest that does not involve performative behavior.
The bolded is a good point. That should be a core tenet expressed in these protests. And you're right, the people don't have an issue with respect to what the protests are about, but that's kind of a problem.
What I should have said was these protests seem purely performative. It's people holding up their phones so everyone can see how virtuous they are yelling "Trump's a Nazi/Facist/Racist/etc"..... I don't see this as productive.
What I should have said was these protests seem purely performative. It's people holding up their phones so everyone can see how virtuous they are yelling "Trump's a Nazi/Facist/Racist/etc"..... I don't see this as productive.
You know what? I started watching some other broadcasts of the protests, and the people were peaceful and their placards were against ICE and other strong focal points. All good.
That's the last time I get my initial news info from 'Louder with Crowder', and that's a JP guarantee.
What I should have said was these protests seem purely performative. It's people holding up their phones so everyone can see how virtuous they are yelling "Trump's a Nazi/Facist/Racist/etc"..... I don't see this as productive.
Maybe it wasn't the best idea for ~half the country to start calling a politician the "god-king" while at the same time there are influential rightwingers running around calling democracy a failed concept and advocating for quasi-monarch style leadership in its place.
i walked by a no kings pre protest last week in seattle and drove past a mini one today
both times it was full of random mixed messaging
flags of ukraine, signs about social security and medicare, even a queers for palestine sign
this was my main problem with progressive demonstrations when i was in college, we'd get together to protest the war in iraq and 1/3 the signs would be about environmental or gay issues - like c'mon we can protest those tomorrow, let's just have a coherent message
So we have a man who won a US election both by electoral college and popular vote winning a Supreme Court case. Seems like the normal system at work. Yeah it sucks but what's the alternative, dismantling the system?
The supreme court case is separate from the winning of the election. Also it’s not very historically accurate to say that authoritarians cannot arise out of Democratic processes. Look at Napoleon or Hitler.
The bolded is a good point. That should be a core tenet expressed in these protests. And you're right, the people don't have an issue with respect to what the protests are about, but that's kind of a problem.
What I should have said was these protests seem purely performative. It's people holding up their phones so everyone can see how virtuous they are yelling "Trump's a Nazi/Facist/Racist/etc"..... I don't see this as productive.
I think you do have some decent ideas, but the issue is that in order to actualize those ideas we need some kind of participation from people. So these big protests are good entry points for people to get more involved and then the targeted protests can happen.
Sometimes people just need to see a huge mass of people who are like-minded getting angry about the authoritarian turn of our country to inspire them to take action. I’m not against criticizing the protest but I just hope that you will get involved and be the change you want to see in this world. I know I think people should be a bit more thoughtful about their participation.
One really important takeaway from this protest is that there are many people criticizing Trump from a pro-America perspective. We can see not everyone wants to dismantle the American government, they just want it to be better. Lots of normal people there and not a lot of far left socialists. Nature is healing imo.
He will count the protesters in his numbers
nothing but respect for president nelson muntz
What a day! I've tried to swear off the news but remaining oblivious to country and world altering events is probably not such a good answer. Case in point today. It just makes me wonder what the US looks like on the world stage now.
Stupid, red neck, bombastic, breeder of nut cases, pseudo religious hypocrisy run amok, culture war run amok, can't manage its own affairs, totally dependent and fading in competence and actual rank while it still crowing like is is still THE superpower, an electorate clamoring for Armageddon, an anti education, anti science, anti environment, anti freedom movement ramping up and up, etc.
"Come on Jesus: we're the holy ones in your name. When is that rapture? When will the promises of a 1st Century superstition and all the preposterous messengers come to pass?"
Give me privilege or give me the second coming. I believe, I believe, I believe we are on a holy path.
Solid answer LOL. LOL was for your initials, not b/c I think you're ridiculous LOL. OK that one meant I'm laughing at you out loud.
Boomer humor. Kewl. You and lagtight should start a podcast together.
What I mean is why are they calling it 'No Kings'? There's a better chance of me getting pregnant than there ever being an American king. See it's funny b/c I'm a guy so it's impossible. Wait, can I say that in here or is that banworthy?So the protests are essentially "We don't like Trump". Well no ****, most people don't, me included. What my question was getting at is: Either
Yeah, man, I guess I just don't see how anyone who has been paying even the slightest bit of attention doesn't see how Trump is trying to establish himself as supreme leader.
Military on the streets, ignoring judicial orders, threatening civilians with violence, threatening businesses and/or telling them how to run them, dismantling government institutions, attacking media and educational institutions, nabbing people on the streets and sending them to foreign gulags without any due process first. There's far more but there's so much that it's hard to remember.
He manufactures crises and then applies a heavy-handed solution. He wants chaos and division because it's easier to grab another inch. One day it will be so far along that it will be too late to defend against it. This is why people are not sitting back and just saying, "Eh, we just have to put up with this for another few years" because history, Germany, Chile, Russia, Italy, etc., have shown what can happen when you don't put someone in check.
It's silly that any of this needs to be stated after what transpired on January 6th, 2021.
