President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
I would love you (or anyone else) to distill my politics down to its primal core. But that's not what you actually did though.
Or maybe you thought that's what you were doing, in which case you're just really, really, really dumb.
1. How has immigration affected your life in the last 20 years?
2. What are you hoping happens with 30 more years of conservative controlled supreme court?
3. What do you think "wokism" is? How do you think "wokism" has affected your life the last 10 years?
It can get out of control fast. Some incident where some marines die for example could be catastrophic. Probably not civil war because it's a bit one sided. Civil war would require a part of the military to mutiny but soem form of martial law could happen.
Sure. Anything can happen. But what Trump is doing should be alarming to people no matter how remote they believe the worst-case scenarios are in the very near term.
Not hard to reconcile imo.
I want limited force in the vast majority of cases.
I want unlimited force as an option in cases where innocent lives are at stake.
You’re equivocating on what he means by unlimited force then. And this is not reconciling because a necessary condition of approving of unlimited force is that you do not approve of limiting the force.
ummm yes. i am curious how one can be an "illegal immigrant" but not be a "criminal"
bit of a logical contradiction to argue otherwise
The mere act of being in the country without proper documentation is not a crime. You of course can be deported for being in the country without proper documentation.
A large percentage of what people are referring to when they say "illegal immigrants" have committed no crime related to that status. They are people who entered legally and have had their visas expire or similar. This is not a crime, so they are not criminals. Being an undocumented immigrant is a civil offense, not criminal. That's about 40% now. It used to be the majority, in fact.
1. How has immigration affected your life in the last 20 years?
2. What are you hoping happens with 30 more years of conservative controlled supreme court?
3. What do you think "wokism" is? How do you think "wokism" has affected your life the last 10 years?
Thank you for your thoughtful questions.
1. I think immigration is a wonderful thing. Immigration is a net positive for our country. I would guess in my own life personally it's probably neutral. It has perhaps been a net negative in some of the communities in which I have lived due to crowding and increased crime in areas in which I've lived. But I myself have not been a victim of crime.
2. I would like to see a more "original intent" interpretation of the Constitution. Some liberal courts in the past have seemingly invented rights that are not explict in the Constitution itself.
Gotta go for now. Will answer question #3 later.
Have a good day!
lagtight,
You agree with me often enough that I am truly confused as to why you viewed Trump as the lesser of two evils when you walked into the voting booth.
Rococo you very often failed to accept the idea many people put forward to you, that it's not like we deny Trump has very significant defects, it's that the democratic party is monstrous beyond credulity and exceptionally more dangerous than what you can comprehend. That said with the senate a lock to be republican in 2024, a divided government would have been fairly acceptable.
But what democrats nominate for the judiciary is , alone, a lot worse than anything trump has ever done by a gigantic margin.
Sure. Anything can happen. But what Trump is doing should be alarming to people no matter how remote they believe the worst-case scenarios are in the very near term.
Agreed but generally way underestimate the further risk . They tend to think it's a bad situation but that the risk of it getting much worse has remained low. The reality is very different. It's both bad and much more risky. We create situations where even a small group or lone actor can cause an explosive sequence of events.
I'd actually reverse your point which is that even if people don't think what trump is doing is alarming they should be very concerned about the much this increases the risk of far worse case scenarios
Calling LGBTQ a "pseudo religion" is hysteria. The DoD doesn't allow pride flags either, so his entire comment is hysteria driven nonsense
LGBT flags flying at VA headquarters garner opposition
the Associated Press | The Montana Standard
BILLINGS – The rainbow-colored pride flag for the LGBT community flying at Montana Veterans Affairs headquarters has sparked some debate.
The Billings Gazette reports the Fort Harrison flags were raised in the beginning of June to honor lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender pride month.
Commander of the Disabled Veterans Department of Montana, Joe Parsetich, says someone removed the first flag that was raised outside the director’s office. It’s unclear who took the flag down, but the VA raised it again and put up another one at the medical center.
Sen. Steve Daines, R-Mont, says the VA should rather be celebrating PTSD Awareness Month, which is also in June.
Several VA facilities around the country have raised the pride flags.
A VA official says diversity and inclusion are important to the organization.
Rococo you very often failed to accept the idea many people put forward to you, that it's not like we deny Trump has very significant defects, it's that the democratic party is monstrous beyond credulity and exceptionally more dangerous than what you can comprehend. That said with the senate a lock to be republican in 2024, a divided government would have been fairly acceptabl
I think the failure is on the ideas put forward and not the interpreter
Like, I don't have trouble understanding your position, its just based on prejudice and nonsense for the most part and you reject every evidence based rebuttal
1. LOL. The Biden administration basically just continued the decades-long status quo with regards to immigration, this panic that there are hordes of illegals coming over to CAUSE CHAOS (read: mow rich people's lawns for less money than the rich would prefer to pay) was created by various right-wing media influencers to scare both normies and cranks like yourself.2. That's
No Karl he objectively didn't. He used deportation parole, TPS and other tricks to allow in "semi-legally" (not on normal status, yet not-deportable) several million people more than usual. From terrible countries, with no selection for their skillsets and so on (so even worse than illegals that at least have to find some job to survive). Many of them gained at least partial access to welfare because of this as well (unlike illegals).
It was unprecedented in scale.
LGBT flags flying at VA headquarters garner oppositionthe Associated Press | The Montana StandardBILLINGS – The rainbow-colored pride flag for the LGBT community flying at Montana Veterans Affairs headquarters has sparked some debate.The Billings Gazette reports the Fort Harrison flags were raised in the beginning of June to honor lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender pride
The VA isn't part of the DoD Luciom
Rococo you very often failed to accept the idea many people put forward to you, that it's not like we deny Trump has very significant defects, it's that the democratic party is monstrous beyond credulity and exceptionally more dangerous than what you can comprehend. That said with the senate a lock to be republican in 2024, a divided government would have been fairly acceptabl
The bolded seems to be code for "you disagreed with people like me," but dressed up to make it sound as if I am failing to accept reality. I am not obligated to agree with you just because you assure me that you are correct. I don't agree with you. And I don't believe that I am detached from reality.
I think the failure is on the ideas put forward and not the interpreter
Like, I don't have trouble understanding your position, its just based on prejudice and nonsense for the most part and you reject every evidence based rebuttal
Attempting to forfeit 250 bln+ of student loans while trampling over the constitution to do so is an act which has no equivalent from Trump in scale for example.
"prejudice", "nonsense", but you never admitted that was a *catastrophic* attempt to pervert the constitution to try to achieve a monstrously immoral outcome
The bolded seems to be code for "you disagreed with people like me," but dressed up to make it sound as if I am failing to accept reality. I am not obligated to agree with you just because you assure me that you are correct. I don't agree with you. And I don't believe that I am detached from reality.
You don't accept the reality of smart, educated people who share at least in part liberal (classic liberal) values with you judging the current state of the democratic party as even more dangerous than republicans.
You dont have to agree with that sentiment, you have to understand it's not thinking trump is decent, it's thinking democrats are even worse.
Attempting to forfeit 250 bln+ of student loans while trampling over the constitution to do so is an act which has no equivalent from Trump in scale for example.
"prejudice", "nonsense", but you never admitted that was a *catastrophic* attempt to pervert the constitution to try to achieve a monstrously immoral outcome
No equivalent like 1 trillion in forgiven PPP loans, of which an estimated 500 billion were fraudulent?
You aren't on top of your game today
You’re equivocating on what he means by unlimited force then. And this is not reconciling because a necessary condition of approving of unlimited force is that you do not approve of limiting the force.
Maybe he and I are using the term differently then.
Whatever terminology one wants to employ, I think I've clarified my position.
I'm no theologian, but isn't this "dad of Jesus" God the same one that, for instance, murdered 99.999% of all living creatures on Earth because he was mad at dudes in Sodom having buttsex? Wait, no, I'm mixing up my Hitler-on-steroids-style atrocities, THAT one was when he nuked Sodom and Gomorrah and turned Job's wife into a pillar of salt for the great sin of looking bad at
I thought it was for being hostile to strangers and liking "strange flesh", whatever that meant.
No equivalent like 1 trillion in forgiven PPP loans, of which an estimated 500 billion were fraudulent?
You aren't on top of your game today
JFC are you real? congress can vote anything on that topic, we are talking abusing the constitution, burning it to the ground, attempting to do it as the executive without congress !!!!!!!!
A large percentage of what people are referring to when they say "illegal immigrants" have committed no crime related to that status. They are people who entered legally and have had their visas expire or similar. This is not a crime, so they are not criminals. Being an undocumented immigrant is a civil offense, not criminal. That's about 40% now. It used to be the majority, in
This is factually accurate. Also, a lot of people assume that anyone who wants to get a visa to enter the United States can do so. I don't believe that is the case. I remember several years ago talking to a working class guy in Domenica who had friends in the United States. I asked him whether he had ever visited his friends in the U.S. He laughed and said "You think I can get a visa? They look at a guy like me and say, 'there's someone who will never go home if we let him in.'"
You’re equivocating on what he means by unlimited force then. And this is not reconciling because a necessary condition of approving of unlimited force is that you do not approve of limiting the force.
With unlimited force i mean exactly that: no limit to the violence allowed. Doesn't mean you have to / can go allin immediatly, but you are pre-cleared to be allowed to go allin without remorse if intermediate steps don't work.
