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President Donald Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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by coordi

You are legitimately a ******Because you have repeated this about 12 times today and you are wrongand instead of, you know, doing a bit of research, you are just repeating ******ation ad nauseum despite multiple people pointing out that you are being ******edand while the adults try to have a nuanced conversation you are just koolaid manning your ******ation over and over and o

First time I've ever heard the expression "koolaid manning." Great term! May I steal it? (Or burn it down? :p)


by corpus vile

Cuz you said
What context do you mean this in? A bunch of peeps objecting on a forum and arguing or objection manifested as riots due to deportations?
So no it's not a non sequitur, it's a perfectly reasonable inference to make on account of a big ass riot that's still ongoing as we speak.

So you responded to a particular thread of the discussion about the differences between Obama, Biden, and Trump with an unrelated comment about the ongoing vandalism which I already condemned, and you are unsure as to why I called it a nonsequitor? What exactly does nonsequitor mean if not bringing up something unrelated to the argument?


by geezerchess

Theoretically the National Guard is there to protect a federal facility, which is lawful.

I don't see how deploying the Marines is lawful at all in this situation.

I'm not sure how (il)legal it is
However:


The downtown Federal Building became a flashpoint after it emerged that ICE detainees were allegedly being held there. ICE accused "over 1,000 rioters" of surrounding and attacking the building on Saturday

Wouldn't that be a Federal facility?
Also didn't the Minneapolis governor deploy the NG at riots a few years back?

So is it legal or illegal to deploy the military during riots?




by corpus vile

I'm not sure how (il)legal it is
However:

Wouldn't that be a Federal facility?
Also didn't the Minneapolis governor deploy the NG at riots a few years back?

So is it legal or illegal to deploy the military during riots?

In my opinion, the NG were placed to guard a federal facility, which is totally legal.

I believe the Minnesota governor refused President Trump's offer to deploy the NG in 2020.

I believe it is not legal to deploy the National Guard unless requested by the Governor. (Except to guard a Federal facility.)


by coordi

You are legitimately a ******

Don't whinge about being called on your absolute lying, you whingey lying whingebag

Because you have repeated this about 12 times today and you are wrong

and instead of, you know, doing a bit of research, you are just repeating ******ation ad nauseum despite multiple people pointing out that you are being ******ed

and while the adults try to have a nuanced conversation you are just koolaid manning your ******ation over and over and over

Not sure what you're trying to articulate here due to all the asterisks, but no, I'm not wrong, as by armed forces I obviously mean the military. The NG were deployed when things turned violent

Protests have erupted across pockets of Los Angeles, triggered by immigration enforcement operations in parts of the city on Friday.

As some protests turned violent, US President Donald Trump deployed 2,000 National Guard troops to uphold "very strong law and order" in parts of the city, prompting California Governor Gavin Newsom to call the move "illegal and immoral"

Friday 06 June The protests began on Friday after Immigration Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers carried out raids in heavily Latino parts of Los Angeles, including outside a clothing warehouse in the Fashion District near downtown LA.

It was one of four search warrants served at three locations in LA by ICE on Friday, the BBC's US partner CBS News reported, and as news of those warrants spread, protests broke out.
.Protesters threw objects at agents and attempted to block federal officials from carrying out their arrests

On Saturday, Trump deployed 2,000 National Guard members to the Los Angeles area, triggering a political row with state politicians.

That, my semi hysterical friend is called "rioting". Words have defined meanings, not what you personally define them to mean.

Friday comes before Saturday and there absolutely was violent rioting on Friday as in before Saturday, as in the day Trump sent in the NG.
Can you go one whole post without lying your lying ass off?
And re the violence I have done my research, and just helpfully provided useful links and quotes to back it up- you're the one lying due to OMB. I'm not American and while I think the dude's a prick, that's about it. I'm not emotionally invested in him like you are, to the point where I need to tell a bunch of porky pies to vent my rage at the orange one. Go out and touch some grass and feel some sun on your face mate. 🙄


by geezerchess

In my opinion, the NG were placed to guard a federal facility, which is totally legal.

I believe the Minnesota governor refused President Trump's offer to deploy the NG in 2020.

I believe it is not legal to deploy the National Guard unless requested by the Governor. (Except to guard a Federal facility.)

Right. Such as a Federal ICE facility, by way of a "for instance"


by checkraisdraw

So you responded to a particular thread of the discussion about the differences between Obama, Biden, and Trump with an unrelated comment about the ongoing vandalism which I already condemned, and you are unsure as to why I called it a nonsequitor? What exactly does nonsequitor mean if not bringing up something unrelated to the argument?

Jasus. Again we're speaking about this entire issue against the backdrop of ongoing riots, so no my inference isn't a non sequitur.
but good for you for your condemnation, unlike others who flat out lie riots aren't occurring, just protests, props.


by corpus vile

Right. Such as a Federal ICE facility, by way of a "for instance"

Correct!


Defend or Criticize: "Within the last five days, some rioting has occurred in the city of Los Angeles."


by geezerchess

Defend or Criticize: "Within the last five days, some rioting has occurred in the city of Los Angeles."

I'll start:

From dictionary dot com:

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/riot


Riot

noun
a noisy, violent public disorder caused by a group or crowd of persons, as by a crowd protesting against another group, a government policy, etc., in the streets.

Synonyms: melee, fray, brawl, outbreak

Law. a disturbance of the public peace by three or more persons acting together in a disrupting and tumultuous manner in carrying out their private purposes.

violent or wild disorder or confusion.

Synonyms: disturbance, tumult, uproar

Based on the above definitions, I believe it is clear that rioting has occurred in Los Angeles within the past five days.


by corpus vile

Don't whinge about being called on your absolute lying, you whingey lying whingebagNot sure what you're trying to articulate here due to all the asterisks, but no, I'm not wrong, as by armed forces I obviously mean the military. The NG were deployed when things turned violent

Hey ******, about 100 people were at the immigration services building Friday night so LAPD sent over 50 officers in riot gear to (illegally) disperse the crowd with tear gas and pepper spray and the crowd responded by throwing things at the guard.

I'm sure in your mind the riot officers were justified in using force to disperse a peaceful protest, but I hold that they weren't.

What a ****ing bootlicker


by geezerchess

I'll start:From dictionary dot com:https://www.dictionary.com/browse/riot

No they were peaceful protests and anyone who sez otherwise is a bootlicker, go away the adults are talking drone waffle blah moar lies etc.


by geezerchess

Defend or Criticize: "Within the last five days, some rioting has occurred in the city of Los Angeles."

There were some riots in LA the past 5 days or so, yes.

I, in fact, never said there weren't

Again, not sure what this weird aside is meant to do. Its like we are saying the sky is blue and you guys are going "nuh uh, the grass is green"


by coordi

Hey ******, about 100 people were at the immigration services building Friday night so LAPD sent over 50 officers in riot gear to (illegally) disperse the crowd with tear gas and pepper spray and the crowd responded by throwing things at the guard.I'm sure in your mind the riot officers were justified in using force to disperse a peaceful protest, but I hold that they weren't.

Not interested in your flat out gaslighting at this point. You don't know what the word "riot" means. As in the ongoing riot which started before OMB sent in the NG.

And again I'm not American and at the end of the day really couldn't gaf about your country's rioting jones, which you lot seem to engage in every couple of years because reasons, so I'm hardly a bootlicker. There's that emotional investment of yours kicking in again. Again, touch some grass, stroke a puppy, feel some sun, smoke a blunt. It'll hopefully assuage your shrill semi deranged hysterics.


by corpus vile

Not interested in your flat out gaslighting at this point. You don't know what the word "riot" means. As in the ongoing riot which started before OMB sent in the NG.And again I'm not American and at the end of the day really couldn't gaf about your country's rioting jones, which you lot seem to engage in every couple of years because reasons, so I'm hardly a bootlicker. There's

Yeah you aren't American and you don't have the slightest clue what happened or what is going on and you don't care one way or the other yet you have 25 posts today lashing out in every direction and anyone who disagrees with you is hysterical

Or maybe you are just a ******ed bootlicker?


LOL "rioting"...

here we go again. you people really have no idea what a riot is


by coordi

There were some riots in LA the past 5 days or so, yes.

I, in fact, never said there weren't

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by coordi

I voted Kamala, but the overreach is sending in armed forces to assault protestors with rubber bullets and the such. The overreach is making a show of force of questionable legality along all chains of the justice system.

My god you bootlickers are legitimately pathetic

"Well Trump is just deporting people like Obama, and these aren't protests they are riots

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Not exactly beating the ****** allegations by posting that my man

by coordi

Its weird how every peaceful protest becomes a riot once you deploy storm troopers to disperse the organized crowd into teargas ladened chaos while firing rubber bullets indiscriminately

But yeah, lighting a bunch of Waymos on fire isn't the hallmark of a peaceful protest. That was also an isolated event and not representative of the large scale protests going on concurrently


by corpus vile

Jasus. Again we're speaking about this entire issue against the backdrop of ongoing riots, so no my inference isn't a non sequitur.
but good for you for your condemnation, unlike others who flat out lie riots aren't occurring, just protests, props.

I’m not sure you’re following why I’m calling this a nonsequitor. I said that Trump’s policies on immigration are substantively different from Biden and Obama, despite Biden and Obama deporting lots of people. Can you explain to me what the riots have to do with the differences that I brought up between Biden, Obama, and Trump in terms of immigration? Because I’m not seeing the connection w/r/t the policy analysis. That is the reason I am calling it a nonsequitor.

Do you have an objection to my reasoning for calling it a nonsequitor that has to do with the argument I just laid out?


by coordi

Yeah you aren't American and you don't have the slightest clue what happened or what is going on and you don't care one way or the other yet you have 25 posts today lashing out in every direction and anyone who disagrees with you is hysterical

Not being American doesn't mean I don't know the meaning of the word "riot". Clearly my country's education system is better than yours, seeing as you apparently don't know what words mean. Yeah, you are being hysterical, if your asterisk laden rants are anything to go by. You should relax more, have a cream soda, watch Bill Burr etc. Might help.

Or maybe you are just a ******ed bootlicker?

Already covered, my egocentric America-is-the-centre-of-the-Universe friend. Most non Americans (as in all those other countries the world is made up of, which you're apparently unaware of) don't gaf about your dumbass prez. Ergo we're not "*lots of asterisks* bootlickers".
We just know what words mean, such as "riot" and know how weeks work, such as Friday coming before Saturday. Hope that clears things up. If it doesn't then wail some more at someone who cares. I.E. not me.


by corpus vile

Not being American doesn't mean I don't know the meaning of the word "riot". Clearly my country's education system is better than yours, seeing as you apparently don't know what words mean. Yeah, you are being hysterical, if your asterisk laden rants are anything to go by. You should relax more, have a cream soda, watch Bill Burr etc. Might help.Already c bootlickers."We just k

I wasn't even having a conversation with you and you called me a liar because you are so thoroughly emotionally invested in everyone unequivocally calling what has been happening in LA a "riot"

Maybe go reread your 30 posts from today and stop being a dumbass


by corpus vile

No they were peaceful protests and anyone who sez otherwise is a bootlicker, go away the adults are talking drone waffle blah moar lies etc.

Oh, yeah. My bad.


by coordi

Not exactly beating the ****** allegations by posting that my man

But yeah, lighting a bunch of Waymos on fire isn't the hallmark of a peaceful protest. That was also an isolated event and not representative of the large scale protests going on concurrently

Lmao, you were whingeing about strawman arguments earlier? Argument isn't who set the riot off or who got heavy with who first, but on whether OMB sent in the NG BEFORE the riot. So take your strawman and stick it up yer arse mate, you goalpost moving whingey ass slithery mfr. 😆


If you call it a riot, you are a Nazi.

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