Am I supposed to loosen up vs a whale?

Am I supposed to loosen up vs a whale?

Ok the whale and I are “friends” at the tables. But I've stacked him a few times in previous sessions. He knows I play uber tight, now I no longer get action from him.

He has also changed his style a little bit from super loose passive to a little more aggro with wider opening range and cbetting, overall he's still passive inside his heart.

Am I supposed to loosen up to get action from him?
In hands where he limp and I iso open he'd just fold. This was multiple times in a night whereas he used to call every single of my iso open with ATC.

We also changed seats before he sat down to be in positional advantage vs him. He was aware of that as well. Was this too predatory?

06 June 2025 at 11:26 PM
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by dangomango

Ok the whale and I are “friends” at the tables. But I've stacked him a few times in previous sessions. He knows I play uber tight, now I no longer get action from him.He has also changed his style a little bit from super loose passive to a little more aggro with wider opening range and cbetting, overall he's still passive inside his heart.Am I supposed to loosen up to get act

So not a true whale but someone that learns. Good for him. And yes if he is capable of recognizing your seat change was to target him too predatory.


If someone is adjusting their play, they aren't a whale. The adjustment you need to make is push him to make folds until he gets tired of it.


Typically when we label someone a "whale", we're saying they're a big fish, which is to say, very loose and very passive. If he's working in some aggro plays, that might make him more of a LAG, and if he gets super-aggro while also super-wide, that would make him a maniac.

If he's folding to you more, because he knows you're tight, then he might just be shifting towards being more tight-passive (a "rock").

Based only on what you're saying here, the adjustment to make if he's over-folding to our bets is to start bluffing more, downsizing with value, and not going quite as thin with value bets.

If he sees you changing seats to have position on him, yes, that's a bit predatory. If he's truly loose-passive, we shouldn't mind having him on our left.

When I know someone at the table and we have mutual respect, I'll try to sit across from them, so that there's an equal number of players between us on both sides. I think it's just a basic courtesy we should show to other regs.

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