Tom Dwan - the missing man
How convenient is it that he just falls off the face of the earth after issuing and bailing half way through a 50k hand
I don't think it's clear whether he has delusion of grandeur or a huge ego (narcissist). I'd lean toward the second one though (fwiw).That'd not be big news anyway:- Few people already said he had a huge ego (I remember Greenstein and/or Ivey saying it)- The chess bet- The Durrrr challenge- The way he was trying to talk his way out of saying he owes Jetten.Saying he should be e
He also wanted / did make a bet (?) that he could convince sauce in like 30 minutes that gto is not the best strat like 10 years ago lol
I don't believe Tom has debts... seems there is hardly any evidence for that. People claiming so on NVG doesn't count as evidence btw
I don't think Doug Polk would say Tom was in debt if it weren't true. Dougs reputation would be tarnished and that could be libel if I am not mistaken against Doug. Why would Doug lie about Tom being in debt?
I don't believe Tom has debts... seems there is hardly any evidence for that. People claiming so on NVG doesn't count as evidence btw
idk if this is some kind of ragebait, but in case it isnt. When the whole robbie j4 stuff went down him and haralabos talked quite openly about him owing haralabos like 300-500k. Haralabos also mentioned this in his chicagojoey pod a decade ago. First of all, why wouldn't you pay a debt that is what, like less than 3-10bi of his normal stakes? It's also not too common in the poker world that you only owe one person. Would be genuinely surprised if he wasnt at least 8 figures in debt. Zero chance he isnt 7 figures in debt.
lol, ‘$35m of debt means nothing’
—magicpro
You’ve said this twice now, so I felt compelled to point out how stupid you sound.
As if the stakes he plays (you seem to be assuming that’s all his money on the table) mean that ‘‘tis but a scratch’ to owe $35m.
Omg, too good.
The only way Dwan scrapes together a million is selling pieces or more borrowing and neither is optimal for payoff of previous debts.
Tom is one of us. Spreading gossip and cracking jokes about someone potentially in trouble is just *****y. But then a lot of you on here have always just been azzholes.
I wouldn't say Tom is a friend, but we were friendly and hung out back in the day. He was always a good guy and a kind person. At least from what I saw. And although I haven't spoken to him in a few years, if he's in trouble, I hope he finds his way out and if there's something I could do to help, I would.
I don't think Doug Polk would say Tom was in debt if it weren't true. Dougs reputation would be tarnished and that could be libel if I am not mistaken against Doug. Why would Doug lie about Tom being in debt?
Isn't his rep already tarnished from shilling that shitcoin that went under almost immediately when the market took a downturn? Meanwhile I'm still holding shitcoins that while down in value are hanging in there.
Libel basically is never going to be worth taking to court. It's kinda hard to prove that you don't owe anyone money, and beyond that you have to prove what material damages that Doug's claim caused you.
Isnt Tom still married to Maria? Where is she in all this? Tom needs the support from someone very close to him (non-poker related) and step away from poker for a while.
Tom is one of us. Spreading gossip and cracking jokes about someone potentially in trouble is just *****y. But then a lot of you on here have always just been azzholes. I wouldn't say Tom is a friend, but we were friendly and hung out back in the day. He was always a good guy and a kind person. At least from what I saw. And although I haven't spoken to him in a few years, if he
You are in no space to make moral judgements. You videotaped pornography as a job, so you have a low character. Get off your high moral ground talking down to others you are no better than anyone else. That topic at hand is about whether or not Tom Dwan is going to pay his debts off.
Tom paying debts is off the table now and forever.
My analysis of his mental state is that it's real what he's experiencing not a ruse to avoid debts.
It will take many years if ever for him to recover and to do so he will need to completely exit poker which is a core enemy of everyone's mental health.
Ultimately he'll end up in a better place, even if it's not as glamorous of remunerative.
But poker is done.
Few on this thread have any clue what they're talking about. Only medical professionals and those who have been through the mind-bending soul-sucking ordeal of a loved one becoming mentally ill have the experience to make an accurate analysis.Those experiencing psychosis want nothing more than confirmation that what they're experiencing is real. House bugged, food & drink drug
this so much, everything balto has posted is right on point
How did you come to the conclusion that there are paid trolls here. In this thread most of the people posting have been registered to the site for 10-15 years. Who is paying them and why lol.
Almost 20 years in my case…I was also apparently a part of the highly-coordinated astroturfing campaign on 2+2 that Robbie Lew financed. Never did get that check tho…
I wouldn’t hold my breath while you wait for magicpro to give you an answer, and if he does, it’ll include vague innuendo about the Deep State, no doubt.
Almost 20 years in my case…I was also apparently a part of the highly-coordinated astroturfing campaign on 2+2 that Robbie Lew financed. Never did get that check tho…
I wouldn’t hold my breath while you wait for magicpro to give you an answer, and if he does, it’ll include vague innuendo about the Deep State, no doubt.
...almost 20 years of trolling on the search for attention. 😃
Good god people, this is NVG. If you expect some sort of logical, highfalutin discussion with Ivy League boardroom decorum, then I suggest it is you who is mentally ill.
And yeah, no one here knows exactly what Tom is going through, and one person's opinion (or "View", as the forum is called) is just as valid (or invalid, if you want to be a contrarian) as anyone else's.
For example, I think Tom has an RFK Jr. style parasitic brainworm that occasionally has the brainworm equivalent of PMS, and it exhibits itself as "Paranoia Tom".
You are in no space to make moral judgements. You videotaped pornography as a job, so you have a low character. Get off your high moral ground talking down to others you are no better than anyone else. That topic at hand is about whether or not Tom Dwan is going to pay his debts off.
someone has to make the porno mixtapes
if people who've videotaped porno cant make moral judgements, can people who've watched porn still make moral moral judgements?
because if not then /end thread
Joey Ingram should interview Dwan so we could get some answers.
I have a friend who has been abusing adderall. Same type of thing. Thinks people are watching them and says crazy stuff. Never done adderall myself but does the psychosis go away if you abatain or is it permanent?
I have a friend who has been abusing adderall. Same type of thing. Thinks people are watching them and says crazy stuff. Never done adderall myself but does the psychosis go away if you abatain or is it permanent?
That makes sense. I have seen a documentary about drugs and an expert in chemistry said that amphetamines WILL give anyone a psychosis over time. They had studies proving that.
His statement was, that it could happen right away with the first pop, or on the 6th, but it will happen no matter what.
Amazing that Adderall is even legal in the US. as it is an amphetamine. The greed has really no boundaries.
https://x.com/abruzuc/status/1927095806089105662
"There was a guy from a fund in the room"
Imagine being an investor and you sit down in a poker game and dwan is tweaking out next to you. This interview sounds like someone convinced dwan to invest in a shitcoin. Wonder how much he put in.
Translation: ‘I watched a YouTube video’
…about drugs and an expert in chemistry said that amphetamines WILL give anyone a psychosis over time. They had studies proving that.
His statement was, that it could happen right away with the first pop, or on the 6th, but it will happen no matter what.
And what, exactly, qualified him to be considered an ‘expert’ in chemistry? Did the YouTube video you watch bother to give his CV, or did they just have ‘Expert in Chemistry’ on a banner underneath him?
Please share these ‘studies’ that prove (or even claim) what this expert says they do. If he claims that using adderall will ultimately lead to (a?) psychosis in all cases (maybe even the first time!!), then he’s an idiot, not an expert.
I realize you have difficulty distinguishing between the two.
Amazing that Adderall is even legal in the US. as it is an amphetamine. The greed has really no boundaries.
Only thing in your post that touches rationality.
