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So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
Invariably and necessarily, people who claim to be talking to 'God' are talking to themselves.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/necess...
Excerpt:
necessarily
[ nes-uh-sair-uh-lee, -ser- ]
adverb
by or of necessity; as a matter of compulsion or requirement:
as a necessary, logical, or inevitable result:
That conclusion doesn't necessarily follow.
Essentially, for your claim to be true, it would have to be logically impossible for someone to be talking to God.
And yet in the Holy Bible there are many examples of men literally talking to God.
Now, I am not saying folks are talking to God today. I would be skeptical of anyone claiming to have had a dialogue with God.
That said, such an occurance would not be logically impossible..
Yeah, that's a feature of pretty much every religion. God used to be a lot more hands on. Especially in stories first written down 300+ years after the events depicted supposedly happening making them impossible to even fact check on the basics, much less the metaphysical; ie was there a guy named Moses that led some sort of large scale Jewish slave revolt in Egypt that even claimed to talk to god? Almost certainly not if you go by the bible narrative.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/necess...Excerpt:necessarily[ nes-uh-sair-uh-lee, -ser- ]adverbby or of necessity; as a matter of compulsion or requirement:as a necessary, logical, or inevitable result:That conclusion doesn't necessarily follow.Essentially, for your claim to be true, it would have to be logically impossible for someone to be talking to God.And yet in the Ho
lmao, you're drooling because you finally got someone to talk about god again...
"It's not impossible, look, it says in the Bible that it happened" is some flawless reasoning. This forum could use more of that sort of insight and clarity of thought.
The Flying Spaghetti Monster is 100% real on the other hand, i've had interactions with it and it's not happy that god gets all the credit
"It's not impossible, look, it says in the Bible that it happened" is some flawless reasoning. This forum could use more of that sort of insight and clarity of thought.
St. Augustine in the 5th century wrote that the Book of Jonah had become a laughing stock to non-Christians and leaned towards reading it as a parable because it was so implausible to take as historical.
St. Augustine in the 5th century wrote that the Book of Jonah had become a laughing stock to non-Christians and leaned towards reading it as a parable because it was so implausible to take as historical.
I thought I read somewhere that the rise/acceptance of young earth creationism (and generally the literal interpretation of the bible) in the US is a fairly recent development - last 150 years or so - which is obviously somewhat counterintuitive: one would associate it more with primitive pre-Enlightenment thinking.
I thought I read somewhere that the rise/acceptance of young earth creationism (and generally the literal interpretation of the bible) in the US is a fairly recent development (last 150 years or so), which is obviously somewhat counterintuitive - one would associate it more with primitive pre-Enlightenment thinking.
not when you figure out that pre-enlightment most people couldn't read and that includes the bible... so they got the version clerics gave them (including if they were protestants).
to have YEC common you need protestant ethos ("we read the Bible individually!") and widespread literacy
not when you figure out that pre-enlightment most people couldn't read and that includes the bible... so they got the version clerics gave them (including if they were protestants).
to have YEC common you need protestant ethos ("we read the Bible individually!") and widespread literacy
What? Why can't you just have a preacher saying "this is a thing that happened" and other people believing him/her? Why do you need people to read it for themselves? And what does being protestant have to do with it, don't all christians like the bible?
And even if you favor a literal interpretation of the bible, it doesn't straight up say "the Earth is 4000 years old at the time of the 2nd Temple" or something like that. These are Jewish texts, written in Hebrew and if the communities that preserved and compiled the Old Testament from 900 BC-100 AD thought the Bible said the Earth was only thousands of years old, they never wrote that down in any surviving text.
trump seems to be pretty fond of polling before taking sides. 4D Chess or just getting in touch with his inner Hilldawg?
What? Why can't you just have a preacher saying "this is a thing that happened" and other people believing him/her? Why do you need people to read it for themselves? And what does being protestant have to do with it, don't all christians like the bible?
because protestantism was born out of a deep hatred for the previous cadre of ecclesiastic hierarchy so the ethics of protestantism were predicated on reading the Bible yourself, we would call it "disintermediation" these days.
preachers previously operated through allegories and metaphors manipulating the bible content to suit the customers preferences. you had various different approaches within the Catholic church (for ex groups putting poverty as the focus, others putting studying the sacred texts as the focus, others putting generosity as the focus and so on), which basically allowed different segment of the population to find something they aligned with inherently and finding that was "the church".
And even if you favor a literal interpretation of the bible, it doesn't straight up say "the Earth is 4000 years old at the time of the 2nd Temple" or something like that. These are Jewish texts, written in Hebrew and if the communities that preserved and compiled the Old Testament from 900 BC-100 AD thought the Bible said the Earth was only thousands of years old, they never
I think most of them go for something like summing up the ages of the various people mentioned
I think most of them go for something like summing up the ages of the various people mentioned
Lol, wasn't Noah like 900 or something? That **** always made me laugh.
because protestantism was born out of a deep hatred for the previous cadre of ecclesiastic hierarchy so the ethics of protestantism were predicated on reading the Bible yourself, we would call it "disintermediation" these days.preachers previously operated through allegories and metaphors manipulating the bible content to suit the customers preferences. you had various differen
And YEC was just another "manipulation" of the text favored by certain preachers that fit the needs of certain customer preferences and caught on to enough of an extent so we've all heard of it. Literacy was not necessary which was his point.
I think most of them go for something like summing up the ages of the various people mentioned
Yes. It is known roughly when Jesus was born and early christians decided Jesus had to be the jewish messiah and since the jewish messiah had to be a direct descendant of David Luke and Mathew give detailed (but contradictory) genealogies of how Jesus is related to David. Luke goes all the way back to Adam, but to go from that to an age of the Earth is derived, not directly stated.
Please do not lump the Church of the Fonz with this 'god' stuff
Nerd didn't exist back then, checkmate tard trollolol
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/necess...Excerpt:necessarily[ nes-uh-sair-uh-lee, -ser- ]adverbby or of necessity; as a matter of compulsion or requirement:as a necessary, logical, or inevitable result:That conclusion doesn't necessarily follow.Essentially, for your claim to be true, it would have to be logically impossible for someone to be talking to God.And yet in the Ho
Do you believe the speaker Johnson spoke to God ?
Either you're ignorant of what some key words in your sentence actually mean, or you are trolling, or you are just a dum-dum.
Of course, I'm not in any position to know which of those three things is the actual state-of-affairs.
Lol. Are you that banned dude named lag something that had a closeup of a face for an avatar?
You can pray all you want to whatever you want, but you're a narcissistic little cnut if you think any know-all deity is going to be influenced and persuaded by your prayer. Gtfo.
I used to think it was this by the way, but I have a strong suspicion that certain sects of Christianity really do convince themselves they are talking directly to God.
Yes, 100%. And it wouldn't make sense from a faith perspective if they didn't believe they were talking directly to God. The problem is the talking back from God part.
I have heard none of them say it's an audible voice but that it's a message that comes to them via deep thought with a strong sense of peace. Kind of like dudes that have taken DMT, acid, ayahuasca, or whatever that get a different perspective to handle a problem in their lives.
I guess if someone can convince me that DMT is God, then I'll believe that Mike Johnson had God talk to him.
Of course he does. He also does it himself. The kook test is if God answers him.
guys try for a second to just examine the claim, and tell me what you think
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There is an extraordinary "reproducibility crisis" in the sciences, particularly in biology, where most published papers fail to replicate.
Most universities have massive bureaucracies that inhibit the translation of basic research into commercial adoption.
The voting patterns of university professors are so one-sided that they look like the election results of North Korea.
And on top of all of this, many universities explicitly engage in racial discrimination (mostly against whites and asians) that violates the civil rights laws of this country.
Our universities could see the policies of the Trump administration as a necessary corrective to these problems, change their policies, and work with the administration to reform.
Or, they could yell "fascism" at basic democratic accountability and drift further into irrelevance.
