[extracted] New(?) 9-11 stuff
KSM got a plea deal. The guy who supposedly masterminded the 9/11 attacks is not getting the death penalty.
If you still
Possible language difficulties. Which could affect their ability to read manuals and flight controls. I mean there a number of reasons why it could be relevant.
Sorry to dismantle your weak gotcha attempt dude.
Since the timely and not very sad at all departure of PointlessWords, Dunces may well hold the dubious distinction of being the poster ITF with the widest gap between his own preception of how smart he is and how much he knows and how smart he actually is and how much he actually knows.
That's ok because I'm not arguing by authority. I'm not saying you should believe me because I'm smart or knowledgeable. You're doing that, except you're citing not yourself but the authority of corrupt institutions with a foreign policy record of genocide, ecocide, psy ops and false flags. Your pointing to the authority of institutions which every few years have to admit to doing the exact evil **** which they called people lunatics for accusing them of doing while they were doing it.
You don't even know what the bs support for the official story is and yet you believe it enough to despise anyone who questions it. Why do you do that? Are you just such a weak individual that you totally freak out at the idea of leaving the herd?
Possible language difficulties. Which could affect their ability to read manuals and flight controls. I mean there a number of reasons why it could be relevant.
Sorry to dismantle your weak gotcha attempt dude.
The guy who believes in space lasers is skeptical about Arabs learning basic English, incredible.
I don't know. It's possible the military shot it down. They should have shot them all down, but (and I feel like we never really discussed this here) there was a training exercise simulating the same scenario being carried out concurrently which occupied and confused the air defense.
Let's not forget to add that to the list of lucky things that (probably) had to happen to pull this off. So they got in the country somehow after supposedly being AQ, avoided capture in spite of multiple attempts to warn law enforcement about them, got control of the aircrafts using nothing but boxcutters and broken English (according to Ted Olson's recall of a conversation with his wife on one of the flights, a call for which there is no definitive record of ever connecting), piloted the aircraft with acumen beyond the most highly skilled trained pilots...and to add to this not even nearly complete luck list we have...avoided air defenses due to the freak occurrence of a concurrent training exercise of the very scenario they were carrying out.
It's weird too because AQ doesn't usually depend on luck. They always kept it simple - put bomb next to thing holding people. Were they just saving their luck up for the big one? Is that how luck works? I think you should tell me because the burden is on you.
It's weird too because AQ doesn't usually depend on luck. They always kept it simple - put bomb next to thing holding people. Were they just saving their luck up for the big one? Is that how luck works? I think you should tell me because the burden is on you.
I think FLight 93 was a legitimate aircraft and was successfully hijacked, yes.
We have ATC reaching out to a local light aircraft responding to the location and altitude of that plane and stating the plane was rocking back and forth while descending, while the CVR records a struggle that coincides with that.
It could all be theatre of course because that's as easy as saying so, but using a smaller aircraft that has been reported on all of its flight patterns by private organizations around the country alone is quite some impressive MacGyver work to just intercept in the hopes that it was worth it to convince people to fight a war in the ME when they could have just gone in regardless.
Deuces, that tiny element alone is essentially impossible to impose because faking a transmission would require a live radio interference, not just a fake recording. The entire country would have had to be in on it because the communication logs wouldn't match.
...but we also have a detonated Building 7, empty drones or holograms and space lasers toasting cars.
That's strong, Deuces.
Deuces, is the working theory here that four unmanned droned aircraft crashed into the Penthouse, the two towers and a random field, a wired detonated building 7 to set off for the lols and some extra powered lasers of some sort for the cars, or do you think the fires burned naturally? Or were there no planes?
And I am asking in good faith because we just talked about this and the prior guy was doing the laser talk.
I think FLight 93 was a legitimate aircraft and was successfully hijacked, yes.
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It could all be theatre of course
I don't think evidence was faked except perhaps in a few low risk spots. Finding the passport was suspect. I mean, there isn't a chair found from the whole fing building, or a desk, but somehow the passport survives the initial fireball as if it was held to the tip of the wing with painters tape. Let's backup for a second from the theory of the crime and the politics. Aren't you just curious as to what explains all the utterly baffling observations surrounding the collapse of the towers? One theme of this discussion is a total lack of curiosity from the die hard government truthers. You guys have zero interest in certain facts, ones inside the official and uncontroversial record, which are totally fing bizarre and unexplained.
...but we also have a detonated Building 7, empty drones or holograms and space lasers toasting cars.
That's strong, Deuces.
Who is we? I never said I thought the planes were empty. I said I would entertain the hypothesis that the planes were modified into drones and that the hijackers thought whatever but actually had no control over the planes. Why would you try to associate me with a bunch of theories I never indicated I thought were possibilities?
When you use lowball tactics and focus on the poster instead of the argument it looks like you do that because you don't have an argument. But really I don't know why you or anyone on the official story side would have an argument, why you would study the government's house of cards here. The whole point of the official story is you don't have to think. If you don't care why tons of molten steel would pour out of a building before it collapses as if controlled down then what is your interest in the topic?
Deuces, is the working theory here that four unmanned droned aircraft crashed into the Penthouse, the two towers and a random field, a wired detonated building 7 to set off for the lols and some extra powered lasers of some sort for the cars, or do you think the fires burned naturally? Or were there no planes?
I've never said there were no planes. My argument is that the government's explanation of events and it's case against AQ are transparently false. While I think it is possible the planes were modified into drones and guided with GPS, I certainly don't know if that was how it happened. I don't have a working theory. No one does really because the people who should have investigated it didn't. It's like if your dog went missing, you called the police, the police said aliens took it, and then the congress passed a budget for a trillion dollar spacecraft to catch the aliens. You see know evidence of aliens and you still don't know what happened to your dog.
I've never said there were no planes. My argument is that the government's explanation of events and it's case against AQ are transparently false. While I think it is possible the planes were modified into drones and guided with GPS, I certainly don't know if that was how it happened. I don't have a working theory. No one does really because the people who should have investiga
They didn't say aliens took it. They said the United Dognapping Society of America, whose raison d'etre and mission statement is to take dogs took it, gave you a mountain of circumstantial and physical evidence, a video of them taking responsibility for it, and a photo of their leader holding your dog with today's paper, and you're like "hmm the saturation in that photo is a bit off, must be a cOnSpIrAcY, it was actually aliens".
I don't think evidence was faked except perhaps in a few low risk spots. Finding the passport was suspect. I mean, there isn't a chair found from the whole fing building, or a desk, but somehow the passport survives the initial fireball as if it was held to the tip of the wing with painters tape. Let's backup for a second from the theory of the crime and the politics. Aren't yo
Sure, but we can really only go in directions with the passport thing. It literally blows away, or someone planted it. Both could have happened, but the former isn't anything particularly game changing.
It could be my bias but I am not baffled by anyhting in regard to how the building collapsed. I dug deeper into building 7 out of curiosity and I didn't see anything that made me feel that a demolition was the culprit.
If Building 7 was wired for demolition, as some suggest, then it would have had to be detonated at the exact moment the penthouse began collapsing , a timing so precise it seems implausible. On top of that, the building had already taken significant damage from debris after a plane crashed into a completely different building down the street, something unprecedented in itself. So the theory would have us believe that someone wired a building in advance, waited for it to suffer unexpected damage and catch fire, and then chose to blow it up right after the penthouse caved in ,all perfectly timed. Not to mention a perfectly in sync nationwide aviation communications log. That's impressive.
Who is we? I never said I thought the planes were empty. I said I would entertain the hypothesis that the planes were modified into drones and that the hijackers thought whatever but actually had no control over the planes. Why would you try to associate me with a bunch of theories I never indicated I thought were possibilities?When you use lowball tactics and focus on the post
I apologize then. I remember reading empty military aircraft, holograms, and some other crazy **** but don't remember who it was exactly but I thought you mentioned that there were likely no passengers on board.
That's ok because I'm not arguing by authority. I'm not saying you should believe me because I'm smart or knowledgeable. You're doing that, except you're citing not yourself but the authority of corrupt institutions with a foreign policy record of genocide, ecocide, psy ops and false flags. Your pointing to the authority of institutions which every few years have to admit to do
The passport thing is so fing stupid. Blows my mind that these dfs still cling to it. Actual tons of personal effects from the planes were found all over the streets and in the rubble. There's absolutely nothing unexpected or strange about that.
And of course that df doesn't have a working theory. Then he'd have to defend it and stop "JAQing" off.
He says, while standing in front of a giant pile of needles.
Do you think Bin Laden was real or do you think the evul gubmint spent billions of dollars to plant a de facto innocent person into Afghanistan/Pakistan who would falsely take responsibility?
right, bc smart believe tend to believe every single thing the genocidal government of the USA says.
like, the government has lied about nearly single thing of consequence in living memory but this time, for this one thing, they are totally telling the truth.
He's so fing stupid he thinks we're listening to the government for our takes on this. Same dishpits that think we listen to the government for when we should get vaccinated.
IT'S SCIENCE YOU FING MORONS.
I, for one, am shocked that 5 of the dumbest mother****ers on the whole forum (BJ, Deuces, Victor, PointlessWords and Playbig) are all 9/11 conspiracy theorists.
guy who has never had an opinion that has ever differed from the mainstream Democrat view on anything listens to the science.
guy who has never had an opinion that has ever differed from the mainstream Democrat view on anything listens to the science.
Unblocked you just to engage directly since you're getting quoted every stupid post in here. You'll go back to ignore soon enough.
I don't agree with mainstream democrats on nearly anything you fing idiot. And I'm an *actual scientist.* My job is literally Alzheimer's research.
Unblocked you just to engage directly since you're getting quoted every stupid post in here. You'll go back to ignore soon enough.
I don't agree with mainstream democrats on nearly anything you fing idiot. And I'm an *actual scientist.* My job is literally Alzheimer's research.
Ah, now it all makes sense, you're here looking for subjects.
I, for one, am shocked that 5 of the dumbest mother****ers on the whole forum (BJ, Deuces, Victor, PointlessWords and Playbig) are all 9/11 conspiracy theorists.
Except even the official narrative is a "conspiracy theory" though.
The question isn't "was there a conspiracy?", but rather "which conspiracy theory is true?"
Except even the official narrative is a "conspiracy theory" though.
The question isn't "was there a conspiracy?", but rather "which conspiracy theory is true?"
We've been over the definition of "conspiracy theory" 100 times ITF, and no, the official narrative is not a conspiracy theory.
