[extracted] New(?) 9-11 stuff

[extracted] New(?) 9-11 stuff

KSM got a plea deal. The guy who supposedly masterminded the 9/11 attacks is not getting the death penalty.

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01 August 2024 at 05:08 PM
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Since the timely and not very sad at all departure of PointlessWords, Dunces may well hold the dubious distinction of being the poster ITF with the widest gap between his own preception of how smart he is and how much he knows and how smart he actually is and how much he actually knows.


by Trolly McTrollson

This is the part where anyone operating in good faith would say "Yeah, okay I guess the transponder thing was incorrect" and move on. Deuces is instead going to sputter and lash out with insults and behave like an absolute clown. He's wasted two decades of his life peddling this absolute crackpot ****, it's far too late for him to admit to himself that it was all a mistake.

That's pretty much what I said. Nothing for me hangs on the transponder issue. I'd read it in some transcript of something, I can't even recall what like 10 year ago, an expert saying it wasn't easy to turn them off, like you either needed a password or you had to attack it physically. I really don't know what the truth is. I'm not taking AI's word on it but I'm not going to go dig up the transcript. I'm not contesting that the transponders were super easy to turn off. I have some lingering doubts given what I read in the past but you can have that ant hill.


Hey if a bunch of Arabs with minimal single engine Cessna flying experience can hijack 4 jumbo jets within a matter of hours on the same day armed with nothing but box cutters and fly them successfully into their targets with nothing going wrong then transponders would be child's play. Apparently they weren't that good at flying the Cessnas either, but we ignore all that of course.

Ok, something did go wrong on one of them apparently but 3 out 4 is pretty impressive. Beats the hell out of those useless kamikaze pilots.


by Brian James

Hey if a bunch of Arabs with minimal single engine Cessna flying experience can hijack 4 jumbo jets within a matter of hours on the same day armed with nothing but box cutters and fly them successfully into their targets with nothing going wrong then transponders would be child's play. Apparently they weren't that good at flying the Cessnas either, but we ignore all that of cou

Right, BJ? Those fools! We know what happened here though, don't we?



by Brian James

Hey if a bunch of Arabs with minimal single engine Cessna flying experience can hijack 4 jumbo jets within a matter of hours on the same day armed with nothing but box cutters and fly them successfully into their targets with nothing going wrong then transponders would be child's play. Apparently they weren't that good at flying the Cessnas either, but we ignore all that of cou

What do you think went wrong?

...Deuces, what happened in Pennsylvania that day?


by formula72

What do you think went wrong?

Well, the official story is that the victims fought back but who knows if that's real or not.


by Brian James

Well, the official story is that the victims fought back but who knows if that's real or not.

Who knows if anything is real or not? We need to check on the official line from Orange Daddy before we can decide what we think. He is the one source of truth in this ****ed up world.


by Brian James

Well, the official story is that the victims fought back but who knows if that's real or not.

Okay, but is that your story? Did they fight back against what or did they not fight and something else happnened?


That reminds me. I meant to reply to your post from the other day about Judy Wood, Give me a minute or two.


by formula72

Okay, but is that your story? Did they fight back against what or did they not fight and something else happnened?

No idea. All I know is a jet liner apparently crashed in a field in Pennsylvannia leaving a hole in the ground with no or minimal wreckage and no bodies.

Was it just more BS?

Who knows, but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....


Not sure why that post was deleted but things go a bit off the rails when "arabs didnt fly the planes" to "well something did go wrong on one of the planes." Was the person remote controlling that aircraft not very good?


I was commenting on the official made up story I think. Not what I believe actually happened. So you probably got confused. I think I confused myself as well come to think of it.

I'll get back to the Judy Wood story and try not to confuse myself again again. If you know what I mean.


by Brian James

No idea. All I know is a jet liner apparently crashed in a field in Pennsylvannia leaving a hole in the ground with no or minimal wreckage and no bodies.

Wat? Man, these Trump dick suckers like to just make completely random **** up huh?


by formula72

Im not going to argue for or against anything but to be as humble as i can here, i think if you were to remove 'toasted cars" from your vocabulary and Judy woods opinion on the matter and instead and decided to "doyourownresearch" you'd find enough similar instances of the aftermath of car fires that look aimilar enough to what is being purported here.From there, you could do

First of all I'm not a customer of hers as you put it. At least not in the financial sense. I just find her analysis and research on the events of 9/11 interesting. That's all. I haven't paid for any of her material. I borrowed her book from my local library and any of her other material that I have consumed is available for free on the internet. And just because I find her material interesting doesn't mean I necessarily agree with all or even any of her views on the topic. But I do know the official story doesn't add up so here we are.

As I have said she is highly qualified in the particular science field her analysis covers wrt to 9/11. The level of detail and research outlined in her book is quite remarkable and the evidence she has accumulated is very impressive. You really have to read the book to fully appreciate it.

Now on the subject of "toasted cars" or we can call them "burned cars" if you prefer, the weird burn patterns weren't the only anomaly. I prefer "toasted cars" by the way as it more accurately describes their appearance post combustion.

The bigger mystery is what caused all these vehicles that were parked away from the immediate debris field to spontaneously combust. While all around them unburnt paper was scattered everywhere. Looking at the photos of the burning cars there are no obvious signs of nearby flaming debris that might have hit the vehicles.

Why were whole engine blocks melted? Why were the door locks completely melted away on many of the vehicles? Why were some vehicles half burned out and the other half completely undamaged? Why did the bodies of the burned vehicles turn rusty inside the space of 24 hours? Is all that normal for burnt cars? I don't know.

And if the dust clouds from the WTC towers were not hot enough to burn pedestrians, paper, leaves, or cars, why were there so many "toasted/burnt" cars?

Judy Wood's whole thing by the way is pointing out all these anomalies and asking questions. She doesn't give any definitive answers as to what happened, just suggests some possibilities. And nowhere does she suggest space lasers as a possibility either fwiw.

Also I'm not sure why you are connecting it with Maui. As far as I am aware she hasn't commented on what happened in Maui.


by d2_e4

Wat? Man, these Trump dick suckers like to just make completely random **** up huh?

They expect to find intact chunks of the airplane and like bodies still strapped into their seats when the plane hit the ground nose first at 75% of mach 1. You can't reason with that level of stupid.


by Gorgonian

They expect to find intact chunks of the airplane and like bodies still strapped into their seats when the plane hit the ground nose first at 75% of mach 1. You can't reason with that level of stupid.

Yeah. To quote a youtube channel I watched about the Titan implosion, "under those conditions the human body ceases to be biology and becomes physics".


by Brian James

Hey if a bunch of Arabs with minimal single engine Cessna flying experience can hijack 4 jumbo jets within a matter of hours on the same day armed with nothing but box cutters and fly them successfully into their targets with nothing going wrong then transponders would be child's play. Apparently they weren't that good at flying the Cessnas either, but we ignore all that of cou

Yeah and don't forget these people were criminals. They couldn't hack it legitimately so they turned into crackerjack operators. Our own special forces elite, into whom we invest millions of dollars and thousands of hours worth of training, can't seem to wipe their own asses without crashing a Blackhawk. But these rejects can do mission impossible flawlessly with no training and without leaving a scrap of paper: they don't even have to write anything down it's all in their heads.

I was going to say that their monkey bar training goes a hell of a long way, but I'm not sure they have those in the Hamburg, Germany division of AQ.


by Gorgonian

They expect to find intact chunks of the airplane and like bodies still strapped into their seats when the plane hit the ground nose first at 75% of mach 1. You can't reason with that level of stupid.

And maybe find some passports too


by Brian James

Hey if a bunch of Arabs with minimal single engine Cessna flying experience can hijack 4 jumbo jets within a matter of hours on the same day armed with nothing but box cutters and fly them successfully into their targets with nothing going wrong then transponders would be child's play. Apparently they weren't that good at flying the Cessnas either, but we ignore all that of cou

Here's what we need you to do--just crash the plane.

I think I can do that lol


by Brian James

Hey if a bunch of Arabs with minimal single engine Cessna...

Why is their ethnicity relevant here?


by Brian James

First of all ....

Maybe start with watching the movie Backdraft and report back. You're honestly stating some rather elementary takes here on why certain things took and I need to go to the gym.

fires burn unevenly, houses turn to ash with toys inside and out, mailboxes and paper survive.

hundreds of pasports could have been burned while others survive

rust starts in literally hours under much better conditions. THis ive unfortunately found out the hard way.

There really isnt even anything even remotely mysterious here.

I brought up maui because like all fires, (even LA) there always people saying these things because you had the same toasted cars and uneven burns , not because the lasers were used, but because its how fire works and they don't understand, and those people are impressionable to those who try to make money off of it. They will be around the next time, and the next for you to rent their books at the library at least.


by Deuces McKracken

That's pretty much what I said. Nothing for me hangs on the transponder issue. I'd read it in some transcript of something, I can't even recall what like 10 year ago, an expert saying it wasn't easy to turn them off, like you either needed a password or you had to attack it physically. I really don't know what the truth is. I'm not taking AI's word on it but I'm not going to go

So, now that you've been proven wrong it's merely just an 'ant hill.'?

Whatever works for ya, Skippy!


He thinks his other arguments aren't just as demonstrably wrong. That's cute. Especially after 10+ years of them being demonstrated to be wrong.


by formula72

Maybe start with watching the movie Backdraft and report back. You're honestly stating some rather elementary takes here on why certain things took and I need to go to the gym. fires burn unevenly, houses turn to ash with toys inside and out, mailboxes and paper survive. hundreds of pasports could have been burned while others surviverust starts in literally hours under mu

Yeah ok, but you are ignoring the most important point that I drew your attention to. That was how did the cars catch fire in the first place given that it appears they were not hit directly by flaming debris and the dust cloud that spread out from the collapsed towers wasn't hot enough to burn paper or people? Most of them were actually parked outside of the debris field in fact.

I didn't rent the book. It was free to borrow.


by wet work

Here's what we need you to do--just crash the plane.

I think I can do that lol

Crashing the plane and flying the plane into a specific target involve completely different levels of complexity to execute.

Obviously that's a bit beyond your intellect to comprehend einstein.

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