President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
Which is irrelevant to my opinion on the matter.Arts funding seems well beyond the purview of the federal government. It seems to violate the concept of subsideration (i.e. government funding should be as 'local' as possible).Of lesser importance, but not irrelevant, to my opinion on this matter is that most modern "art" is awful. (Not saying that Crossnerd's production wasn'
Ooh, we got an art critic in the house! Can I get your opinion on this statue I made?
So my theatre received notice this week that our grant from the National Endowment for the Arts has been revoked. "Funding is being allocated in a new direction in furtherance of the Administration's agenda. Your project, unfortuntately, does not align with these priorities"The part of our theatre project that no longer aligns with Trump's priorities and caused us to lose our g
what a bunch of total and utter cnuts
Some if it's awful and some of it isn't. Most of it is hard to understand if you're using pre-modern values to assess it.
You should expect the same spiteful shite if Farage becomes PM.
Which is irrelevant to my opinion on the matter.Arts funding seems well beyond the purview of the federal government. It seems to violate the concept of subsideration (i.e. government funding should be as 'local' as possible).Of lesser importance, but not irrelevant, to my opinion on this matter is that most modern "art" is awful. (Not saying that Crossnerd's production wasn'
As far as I can tell, subsideration isn't a word. If you meant subsidization, then I don't understand your post. Things like NEA grants don't violate the concept of subsidization. They are subsidies.
In my experience, most people who have super strong opinions that modern art is generally awful haven't seen much of it. Some of it is, of course, but not most of it.
Also, awful and wholesome aren't synonyms, even in this limited concept. It is easy to imagine an artistic creation that is indisputably wholesome and indisputably awful.
As far as I can tell, subsideration isn't a word. If you meant subsidization, then I don't understand your post. Things like NEA grants don't violate the concept of subsidization. They are subsidies.In my experience, most people who have super strong opinions that modern art is generally awful haven't seen much of it. Some of it is, of course, but not most of it.Also, awful
It's subsidiarity that he meant, the concept according to which everything that can be done at the local level should be done at the local level.
I think that started as a catholic concept about how to organize parishes/churches/dioceses and so on, then i think it became detached from religious organizations with Musgrave and Coase.
Coase generalized it better than most i think
Some if it's awful and some of it isn't. Most of it is hard to understand if you're using pre-modern values to assess it.
Most NEA grants have nothing to do with what lagtight thinks of as modern art.
Here is a list of highlights of arts projects that the NEA funded in the last year of the Biden administration. I suspect that none of this would strike lagtight as hard to understand, awful, or unwholesome.
The idea that most NEA funding mainly goes to creators of sexually explicit or blasphemous visual art is another right-wing fever dream. And a susbtantial chunk of it goes to the sort of thing that CN was doing.
A grant to Capacitor Performance in San Francisco, California, of $20,000 to support the development and presentation of a performance piece with an interdisciplinary cohort of electrical engineering and dance students at Washington, DC’s Gallaudet University, the largest Deaf university in the U.S. As part of the project, participants will integrate responsive LED lighting into a sculpture that will be used as part of the performance.
A grant to Children’s Theatre of Cincinnati in Ohio of $15,000 to support the production of a play for young audiences about Shirley Chisholm, the first Black woman elected to the United States Congress, written by Brandi Langford-Sherrill and directed by Maddie Burgoon Jones. The play will tour to schools in the greater Cincinnati region and be made available for virtual streaming. Educational materials including study guides and podcasts will be made available to classroom teachers.
A grant to Parallel Studios (aka Currents New Media) in Santa Fe, New Mexico, of $25,000 to support the Currents New Media Festival, connecting public audiences with technology-focused media arts experiences such as immersive and interactive art installations, multimedia performances and concerts, virtual and augmented reality experiences, artist talks, and free youth education programming, as well as a paid internship program for high school and college students.
A grant to Duke University in Durham, North Carolina, of $35,000 to support Nasher Museum of Art’s exhibition Spirit in the Land that will bring together approximately 70 works by more than 29 contemporary artists exploring issues related to ecological awareness, demonstrating how the natural environment and cultural identity are intertwined.
A grant to Juneau Arts and Humanities Council in Alaska of $60,000 to support the multidisciplinary Rock Aak'w Festival, a weekend-long, family-friendly, and inclusive festival presented by the council in partnership with the Central Council of Tlingit and Haida Indian Tribes of Alaska. The event will showcase and celebrate the shared experiences of performing arts of Indigenous people, including music, dance, and storytelling artists, and will include workshops and masterclasses to instruct teachers on bringing the Indigenous cultures into their classrooms.
A grant to Nashville Symphony Association in Tennessee of $50,000 to support the symphony’s world premiere orchestral performance of The Jonah People: A Legacy of Struggle and Triumph by Hannibal Lokumbe, conducted by Giancarlo Guerrero. In four movements, the orchestra, chorus, vocal soloists, actors, jazz ensemble, and African drum and dance ensemble will consider the legacy of slavery in the United States, and also will celebrate the cultural contributions of Black Americans from the past to the present. Community engagement efforts will feature partnerships with the National Museum of African American Music, Fisk University (a historically Black university), Metro Nashville Public Schools, and Tennessee Performing Arts Center.
A grant to Smart Growth America in Washington, DC of $30,000 to support a national peer network for artists, transportation planners, designers, and engineers through the creation of the Transportation Artists-in-Residence (TAIR) network. They will partner with the Civic Artists in Residence (CAIR) Lab to create and manage the network and to serve as a resource for transportation agencies; further build and organize the growing field of artists-in-residence in government; and spread artist-in-residence programs to additional departments of transportation, transit agencies, and other transportation providers.
A grant to Trustees of Indiana University in Bloomington on behalf of Traditional Arts Indiana of $45,000 to support folk arts programs focused on serving older adults. Folk artists from selected senior communities in Central Indiana will be identified and documented, and encouraged to share their art in public programs. The information collected from the older artists will be used to create a guide for folk arts and aging to inspire others to stay active and engaged with their communities.
A grant to Washington State Arts Alliance Foundation in Seattle of $50,000 to support an emerging statewide arts education collective impact effort. The Arts for All (A4A) Coalition includes partners such as the Office of Superintendent of Public Instruction, the Washington State Arts Commission, Creative Advantage, and ArtsEd Washington and seeks to identify and address gaps in access to arts and cultural learning opportunities for students across the state. Project activities will include creating a logic model and strategic plan, launching an A4A website, creating a communications plan, collecting arts education data, convening stakeholders, and providing leadership development opportunities to youth.
It's subsidiarity that he meant, the concept according to which everything that can be done at the local level should be done at the local level.
You must be correct on this point.
1. thats not going to happen
2. to the extent that she had a plan, it was to kill them all
dumbass libs still trying to claim some kind of w on this issue when the dem "plan" was we don't care, here's a blank check, do whatever you want
They are absolutely reveling in the genocide that they started. Truly sick behavior.
Most NEA grants have nothing to do with what lagtight thinks of as modern art. Here is a list of highlights of arts projects that the NEA funded in the last year of the Biden administration. I suspect that none of this would strike lagtight as hard to understand, awful, or unwholesome. The idea that most NEA funding mainly goes to creators of sexually explicit or blasphemous
Do you think it makes sense for the federal government to be involved in this? how can somone think that picking the proper things to subsidize is done better from washington than locally?
If the idea is that rich states should subsidize poor states for art as well, why not granting art-related money to states and then states allocate it locally?
It's subsidiarity that he meant, the concept according to which everything that can be done at the local level should be done at the local level.
Yes, that is what I meant. I even gave your definition in my post. Thanks for noting the correct word and spelling.
I think that started as a catholic concept about how to organize parishes/churches/dioceses and so on, then i think it became detached from religious organizations with Musgrave and Coase.
Coase generalized it better than most i think
Didn't know the backstory of the idea. Thanks for sharing that.
As far as I can tell, subsideration isn't a word. If you meant subsidization, then I don't understand your post. Things like NEA grants don't violate the concept of subsidization. They are subsidies.
The correct word I should have used was subsidiarity . Government should act and originate when possible/practical where the action is actually taking place.
In my experience, most people who have super strong opinions that modern art is generally awful haven't seen much of it. Some of it is, of course, but not most of it.
Even if it was all good, that by itself is no reason for the federal government to be involved in it.
Also, awful and wholesome aren't synonyms, even in this limited concept. It is easy to imagine an artistic creation that is indisputably wholesome and indisputably awful.
I agree. Any artwork that I might create would be both undeniably wholesome and undeniably awful.
Do you think it makes sense for the federal government to be involved in this? how can somone think that picking the proper things to subsidize is done better from washington than locally?
If the idea is that rich states should subsidize poor states for art as well, why not granting art-related money to states and then states allocate it locally?
I don't think the idea of NEA grants is for rich states to subsidize the arts in poor states. I think the idea is to subsidize the arts throughout the country.
Generally speaking, I don't think that funnelling money through the states would do much to solve what lagtight perceives as the problem. If you think that the NEA is subsidizing some sort of art in California that you don't approve of, then funnelling the money through the state government of California is unlikel to fix the problem.
Most NEA grants have nothing to do with what lagtight thinks of as modern art. Here is a list of highlights of arts projects that the NEA funded in the last year of the Biden administration. I suspect that none of this would strike lagtight as hard to understand, awful, or unwholesome. The idea that most NEA funding mainly goes to creators of sexually explicit or blasphemous
The first grant listed was for $20,000 for a "performance piece" in San Francisco(!).
San Francisco is one of the richest cities in the country and is well known for its thriving arts community. Are you suggesting that a rich city like San Francisco can't find even 200 donors at $100 each? This is silly imo.
edit: Even better, I'm sure Nancy Pelosi would be delighted to foot the bill for a whole thing.
I don't think the idea of NEA grants is for rich states to subsidize the arts in poor states. I think the idea is to subsidize the arts throughout the country. Generally speaking, I don't think that funnelling money through the states would do much to solve what lagtight perceives as the problem. If you think that the NEA is subsidizing some sort of art in California that yo
I don't think who does or doesn't get funding should be predicated on what my opinion of good art is.
If San Diego wants to have some "performance piece" that I find objectionable, at least the folks in San Diego should be the one's paying for it imo. It's really none of my business. That's up to the taxpayers in San Diego.
I don't think who does or doesn't get funding should be predicated on what my opinion of good art is.
If San Diego wants to have some "performance piece" that I find objectionable, at least the folks in San Diego should be the one's paying for it imo. It's really none of my business. That's up to the taxpayers in San Diego.
You're presumably in favour of removing tax exempt status from religious institutions then, which is basically the same subsidy as a 100% tax rebate would be. Why should normal people be forced to fund your silly hobbies and rituals?
Because they’re doing the Lords work in saving us infidels from Satan.
Come on man.
Which is irrelevant to my opinion on the matter.Arts funding seems well beyond the purview of the federal government. It seems to violate the concept of subsideration (i.e. government funding should be as 'local' as possible).Of lesser importance, but not irrelevant, to my opinion on this matter is that most modern "art" is awful. (Not saying that Crossnerd's production wasn'
Yeah, and Churches took in ~125 billion in donations that are tax free because of "separation of church and state" yet most churches are currently being used as breeding grounds for anti christian MAGA scumbags so I personally believe all churches should lose their tax free status and start paying ~40% taxes.
One year of church taxes would pay for 300 years of NEA. Pretty wild. Would make too much sense though
The President is taking even more bold actions by eliminating sanctions on Syria.
We are only a few months in and the Don is changing the world for the better.
Everything you might need is covered comprehensively in the second part of my post.
You're presumably in favour of removing tax exempt status from religious institutions then, which is basically the same subsidy as a 100% tax rebate would be. Why should normal people be forced to fund your silly hobbies and rituals?
Yes I am!
And the tax-exempt status for a church is not automatic. Many churches (wisely imo) choose to not become a corporation authorized by the state.
Yeah, and Churches took in ~125 billion in donations that are tax free because of "separation of church and state" yet most churches are currently being used as breeding grounds for anti christian MAGA scumbags so I personally believe all churches should lose their tax free status and start paying ~40% taxes. One year of church taxes would pay for 300 years of NEA. Pretty wil
I am against churches having a tax-exempt status. Glad we agree on something!
