President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
Even if he does make this executive order, how does he(1) exercise control of drug prices for companies that are not American(2) and how could an executive order dictate what other countries pay? For example, if a drug is made in Switzerland by ABC company, Trump's executive order is going to dictate that ABC lower American prices and charge India (for example) 30 to 80% more t
Even if it wasn't, it would seem unenforceable.
I mean he might as well write and Executive Order that South Side of Chicago is the new "Vatican" and the Pope shall move there immediately. And, if he doesn't move, every Catholic Church outside the US would have to send their alms to Elon Musk.
I don’t want to go back ITT cuz it looks like a lot of Lucy but has Qatar gifting Trump a luxury jumbo jet used as the new Air Force one that will be singularly for his presidency been summarily clowned on by the MAGAs ITT yet?
Bro did you not see that it’s FREE.99? Just saved America like 400 million. How is that bad?
in Italy that was a huge issue some years ago with a party making it it's flag (legal Nord) .
leader of the party meeting the shopkeeper who assassinated thieves in prison and claiming that "self defense is always legitimate" , that Italy was a better place with those thieves dead, and so on.
lega won the elections that time and governed. granted, it also run on sinking refugee boats and completely closing off ports to immigrants.
65% of Italians agree with "it's always legitimate to defend yourself against trespassers in your home, even with weapons" (more than 80% among Meloni voters)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ilgazze...
but tell me again how I am an extremist on this topic
Remember when Kamala was called a radical communist for talking about price gouging?
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump...
Trump wants to institute price controls by executive order.
if he wants to control prices in the free market then ofc that's a Kamala equivalence.
if he wants to use the gvmnt monopsony power and lower what medicare/medicaid pay then no, it's only the typical congress v potus problem (ie this is one of the many things congress and not potus should do).
when you are the customer you got a say in how much you are willing to pay; then ofc companies should be free not to sell to the gvmnt if they don't want to sell at lower prices.
an absolute majority of Americans are in favor of stand your ground laws.
https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/201...
the topic is so obviously not extremist (in the sense of how many people agree) in the USA that even Harris said this
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20 September 2024
US Vice-President Kamala Harris has spoken of her willingness to use her gun if an intruder entered her home.
"If somebody breaks into my house, they're getting shot," she said in a jokey exchange during a livestreamed event in Michigan with host Oprah Winfrey on Thursday.
After a laugh, the Democratic presidential nominee continued: "I probably shouldn't have said that, but my staff will deal with that later."
Harris, who highlighted during the recent presidential debate that she was a gun-owner, went on to reiterate that she supported a ban on assault weapons.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com...
but keep lying about what the median adult believes so that you can depict me as an extremist even in topics where I am aligned with the population majority opinion in the USA and in Italy.
Americans are not well, my guy
Classrooms full of 6yos being slaughtered is basically our normal
Americans are not well, my guy
Classrooms full of 6yos being slaughtered is basically our normal
well if the majority thinks something is ok, then definitionally agreeing with them is not extremism.
no matter what that something is.
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Extremism is "the quality or state of being extreme" or "the advocacy of extreme measures or views". The term is primarily used in a political or religious sense to refer to an ideology that is considered (by the speaker or by some implied shared social consensus) to be far outside the mainstream attitudes of society.
An entire society can be extremist as compared to the rest of the world. That’s American society at this point.
It’s not a gotcha to say Americans favor stand your ground when Americans are fully ****ing insane at this point
You would actually do quite well for yourself in the American south, especially the Deep South
well if the majority thinks something is ok, then definitionally agreeing with them is not extremism.no matter what that something is./Extremism is "the quality or state of being extreme" or "the advocacy of extreme measures or views". The term is primarily used in a political or religious sense to refer to an ideology that is considered
Germany 1939 is one example .
an absolute majority of Americans are in favor of stand your ground laws.https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/201...the topic is so obviously not extremist (in the sense of how many people agree) in the USA that even Harris said this/20 September 2024US Vice-President Kamala Harris has spoken of her willingness to
12 years ago article so maybe those thin margin majority might of changed (53%) , who’s knows.
But it isn’t because u find 1 thing that many agree with you in one instance it absolves you of being an extremist when many other example, they certainly ain’t agreeing with your views .
And that is your main problem in many other topics , your rationalization method is faulty.
UhYe because there is no unfairness possible if you act within the rules (definitionally).It is expected normal healthy and moral for some people to be more talented than others at the game of life, or for their ancestors/families to have been and for them to legitimately inheriting advantages from that, and if you dislike that play the game of life within the rules to change t
The main cause of inequality in the world is not the inheritance of genetic advantages, but the inheritance of generational wealth. If we could just stop that inheritance, everyone would truly succeed based on their own merits, and the world would be a much better place.
An entire society can be extremist as compared to the rest of the world. That’s American society at this point.
It’s not a gotcha to say Americans favor stand your ground when Americans are fully ****ing insane at this point
For some things yes american society can be called extremist vs the rest of the world.
For the propensity to be willing to assassinate trespassers or thiefs, not so sure. What do you think south americans, africans, indians and indonesia think of the morals of killing a thief?
The main cause of inequality in the world is not the inheritance of genetic advantages, but the inheritance of generational wealth. If we could just stop that inheritance, everyone would truly succeed based on their own merits, and the world would be a much better place.
Sure i guess this is why China, where no-one literally owned anything 50 years ago so there was nothing to inherit later on, is such an equal place wealth and income wise right?
Oh wait, China and Russia where wealth inequality was 0 in 1970 (noone owned anything, the state owned everything) have higher Gini than places with no inheritance taxation!
Btw you cannot stop generational wealth from being passed, even with a 100% inheritance tax wealth would be moved when the parents are alive, and unless you are willing to block people from spending or gifting their money when they are alive (which is the main reason to make money, and a fundamental property right), you cannot avoid them helping their offsprings massively.
Which is why no country does what you ask
Crossnerd yet again, like others recently did, we go from "extremist" to "no wait extremist globally, in america you are normal" to "no wait extremist compared only to the countries that agree with me" pretty fast.
You would thrive in Alabama
They’d make you king of the racists
And they’d give you a special outfit!
You would thrive in Alabama
They’d make you king of the racists
And they’d give you a special outfit!
In Alabama i would be dubbed a liberal degen by normies because i am an atheist, i think all drugs should be legal, i want legal prostitution, and i am ok with no questions asked first trimester abortion.
I also hate mayonnaise with BBQ and baked beans
Sure i guess this is why China, where no-one literally owned anything 50 years ago so there was nothing to inherit later on, is such an equal place wealth and income wise right?Oh wait, China and Russia where wealth inequality was 0 in 1970 (noone owned anything, the state owned everything) have higher Gini than places with no inheritance taxation!Btw you cannot stop generation
I think people should be allowed to own property, just not to control what happens to it after their death.
It wouldn't be easy to enforce the giving away of things, but I don't think it would be too tough to prevent the handing down of real estate, investments, or large sums of cash.
I don't know why you mention spending of money, I want more of that to happen, not less. That would be great for the economy as well.
I think people should be allowed to own property, just not to control what happens to it after their death.It wouldn't be easy to enforce the giving away of things, but I don't think it would be too tough to prevent the handing down of real estate, investments, or large sums of cash.I don't know why you mention spending of money, I want more of that to happen, not less. That w
If you prevent gifting you are stripping people ALIVE of one of the main uses of their property.
So you aren't only establishing inheritance taxation, you are significantly reducing property rights of the living as well.
You want to prevent life insurance from existing as well? otherwise financial products will be created where you put the money in, you get income out of it (lower than normal investments) , and a significant payoff goes to the life insurance beneficiaries.
You might want more spending when demand is low and there is risk of deflation, i can get that, but we are currently in the opposite state of the economy, and we have been for a while since post-covid reopenings.
Moreover all non-listed business becoming state-owned every generation or 2 is disastrous for the economy, i hope you can understand that. The state is beyond terrible at managing small-medium businesses.
Do you really want to become partner of the STATE if you and a friend setup a company and he later dies? ffs
When setting up your model to tax inheritances 100%, and to change what people can do while they live to avoid elusion of that, you have to remember you are playing a game agaisnt the smartest people in the country, hundreds of thousands of professionals whose sole career then becomes how to allow rich people to pass money after they die.
You will never be able to catch up and the only way to prevent inheritance from happening de facto if you ban it de iure is to basically remove most if not all property rights of the living. There is no way to avoid billionaires giving tens of millions to their children (or whomever else they want to give to) without removing almost all property rights.
"i ban gifts so the rich people can't dodge my tax".
Ok my kid sets up a company and i lend to the company with a perpetual with 0.1% interest. Wait what? ye a perpetual, so when the state inherits all of that it just gets 0.1% interest forever on the nominal amount.
Ok so i ban perpetuals!
Ok i lend with a 300 years bond.
Ok so i ban very long term bonds!
Ok i lend accepting trash property as collateral , kid will default and the trash property worth 1/100 of the loan will go to the state when i die.
Ok so i ban lending using low quality collateral in the whole economy!
Ok i lend accepting my kid sculptures as collateral which i value at 1 billion each
Ok so i ban private evaluation of art without a market!
Do you get the picture chillrob? and this is me in 10 minutes, now think 5000+ IQ 130+ accountants and the like working 40 hours per week EXCLUSIVELY to find loopholes, while congress has to pass a law every time to catch up.
The problem isn’t how much money u can pass by to your children once dead .
It’s permitting such massive wealth gap to begin with …
But since u don’t believe mis allocation of capital exist I’ll stop there .
A look at the joint statement from the US and China on trade
We've been looking at the joint statement released by the US and China after their trade meeting in Geneva. Here's a summary of the deal:
The 90-day pause will come into effect from Wednesday, with the US reducing tariffs on China to 30%, down from 145%. China will reduce duties on US goods to 10%, down from 125%
Both countries will establish "a mechanism to continue discussions about economic and trade relations", spearheaded by US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent and China's Vice premier He Lifeng
Future talks may be held in China or the United States, the statement adds
They acknowledge the "importance of their bilateral economic and trade relationship to both countries and the global economy"
The statement says both the US and China believe that "continued discussions have the potential to address the concerns of each side in their economic and trade relationship"
It adds that talks will move forward in the "spirit of mutual opening, continued communication, cooperation, and mutual respect"
