1/2: Should I thin check/jam turn here vs loose recfish?

Grunch:

PRE - start raising bigger if $10 gets five callers.

FLOP - I wouldn't c-bet this board into five opponents. Just check and see what happens. Someone is going to have AJ or J9 here often enough, and we don't want to pot commit ourselves. If you simply have to bet, make it like $10 or $15 at most.

As played, he's repping super strong, when you lead out multi-way and he raises next to act, with four other opponents still in the hand. This is rarely going to be a worse hand for value or a bluff.

TURN - as played on flop, I would strongly consider folding. If you have a read on V, such that you believe this bet is weak, okay, then go with that. But to me this bet looks like he's just milking you for value, to set up a river jam for less than pot.

Raising here is just over-playing your hand.

Yeah, check/reevaluate flop. As played, fold to flop raise. As played, fold turn.

Think this is J9 a ton here, and I originally wanted to jam Turn too. It'll be ~1/2 pot left on River with a call. Assuming the blinds both called pf, (and yikes, yeah, open for more.) there'd be only two more callers after V on the flop. So raising makes more sense than V slow-playing & worrying about a J or an A coming off, or the board pairing.

Thinking about it, yeah, folding Flop seems best vs this V type. Definitely folding Turn.

But I totally understand calling Flop and ripping it in on Turn, if that's what you did.

is V really a 'loose, splashy rec" or is he just your typical loose passive fish that has the slight chance to not be a completely brain dead drooler when it comes to recognizing he can bluff occasionally?

Unless I had a VERY specific read, I wouldn't be calling this turn bet and there's no way I would ever consider jamming. It sucks, but when we bet so small pre that we get 5 callers, the odds our 2 pair are good go down dramatically.

He xr triple digits and continued barreling in a 1/2 game. That's a sizeable bet size for the game regardless of the pot.

key takeaway is to raise more pre, 15-20.

I don't absolutely hate the $25 on the flop, but I agree that checking would have both saved us money and given us more information from the bet sizing. If he blasts pot into 4 people on a 3 broadway board it makes it a much more comfortable fold right then and there. Though tbh, xr next to act to 4x into multiple people tells us everything we need to know imo.

Thanks guys. I check called turn and river went check check. He shows K9 lol and I win.

Guy was a tuna.

"Loose and splashy" as a read generally means loose-passive, bordering on whale, not really aggro. When a player who's loose and passive suddenly starts blasting off, we need to be careful.

If your read is or was that he's loose and aggro, that's different, and will change the advice you get. I may not fold top 2P to a LAG opponent's raise here, and when action folds back to us, I might consider 3B'ing, depending on stack depth, any tells I pick up, and how confident I am in my read that he's capable of getting out of line.

Regardless, the hand is somewhat off the rails starting pre-flop, when your raise gets 5 callers, and goes further off the rails when you c-bet for more than 1/3 pot into 5 opponents, first to act (assuming none of the callers were in the blinds). While V may not have you beat, there's a good likelihood someone shows up with AJ, J9, or even occasionally TT.