[MICRO] Line check with Blind vs Blind top pair facing turn raise
Should be easy call but not sure if either flop or turn bet makes sense
PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
BTN: 131.5 BB (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 12.60, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 132)
SB: 63.5 BB (VPIP: 26.24, PFR: 16.31, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 143)
Hero (BB): 101.5 BB
UTG: 90.5 BB (VPIP: 17.46, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 7.41, Hands: 65)
MP: 86.5 BB (VPIP: 45.45, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
CO: 122 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9h Qh
fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 2.5 BB, Hero calls 1.5 BB
Flop : (5 BB, 2 players) 2h Ts Qd
SB checks, Hero bets 2 BB, SB calls 2 BB
Turn : (9 BB, 2 players) 6s
SB checks, Hero bets 3 BB, SB raises to 10.5 BB, Hero ?
12 Replies
Thoughts:
PF:
Blind vs Blind, SB is not likely loose/aggressive by stat, but Q9s seems like to be fine for calling - it is likely on the lower side of my calling range, but I don't feel bluffing / raising on Q9s yet
Flop:
SB checks. Since it's BvB, I feel like SB can have a lot of hands (in particular AX or KX). I happen to have top pair, I feel like I should raise. I can also call to allow SB to bluff on later streets, but don't think it happens a lot at 2NL as people tend to play hit or miss poker
I choose B33, on hindsight maybe I should choose a larger sizing (since I likely wont range bet all my hands as I have tons of hands and I am not always ahead!), maybe B50 would be better?
Turn:
6s looks like a brick in general (opens up backdoor flush draw, but that's it?). SB is less likely to have TPTKs, I feel like my hand is usually ahead.
Once again I choose a sizing that is too small - unless SB have straight draws, SB should fold with nothing on such a dry board.
Now I got raised (and start to hate my small sizing).
I don't really think he have enough top pair good kickers (AQ-QQ should raise preflop, his value range that beats us is like QT and QJ) and he has all 22, 66 (which we also have)
It really looks like some sets, or straight draws (9J), but I don't see a lot of bluffs / draws and I am not sure what to do now, should I call?
Raising seems to be obviously no, I can consider folding but I still have decent SDV.
I would bet bigger on the turn, top pair is a strong hand BvB and they will find plenty of calls with worse.
I imagine in theory you should always call vs check raise, but in practice our microstakes opponents do not have enough bluffs in those agressive lines.
Typically block bets are not* used much in position, and if they are used it will be primarily on the flop and at a high frequency. There is no reason to bet so small on the turn and I'm not sure what other option you have as played other than to call.
Preflop:
I would also call Q9s 100% of the time vs this player.
Flop:
Flop is really good for SB range. i would check behind OTF for pot control and call his bet OTT or bet like 75% OTT myself. If I choose to bet OTF (50% is fine) than have in mind to check OTT.
OTT:
I would check behind as played. I don't want to build the pot with toppair crap kicker. We deside to bet and get checkraised. A checkraise OTT is pretty strong in micro levels. i would Just give up.
Tip: Try to plan out your hand on all streets. Because in the end do you want to go allin or bet 3 streets with toppair weak kicker? I don't. So you want to check some street. If the board was like Q72r I would bet Flop and turn and check river. Or bet flop, check turn and bet small OTR etc.
^^ yup. Turn x/raises are monstrous and should always be on our radar when we fire IP. The equation is simple enough: can i handle a x/r with this sizing?
Baluga cast in iron for good reason. When we face turn x/r we have two issues: the crushing reality of an overly strong range; and on top being able to interpret the very few occasions that might prove an exception. Which after going small we may have generated here.
That said, don't mind betting turn b50+ vs a likely station. When he x/r a larger cbet the fold gets easier and easier.
Don't bet the turn like you have a T, go bigger.
Considering your sizing and this being bvb, call.
Turn bet is fine, but bet bigger. As played, call.
Seems everyone agreed that my turn bet sizing is bad and should be larger (I am trying to get rid of making too many block bets for no reason esp. at turn or river)
PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
BTN: 131.5 BB (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 12.60, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 132)
SB: 63.5 BB (VPIP: 26.24, PFR: 16.31, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 143)
Hero (BB): 101.5 BB
UTG: 90.5 BB (VPIP: 17.46, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 7.41, Hands: 65)
MP: 86.5 BB (VPIP: 45.45, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
CO: 122 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9h Qh
fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 2.5 BB, Hero calls 1.5 BB
Flop : (5 BB, 2 players) 2h Ts Qd
SB checks, Hero bets 2 BB, SB calls 2 BB
Turn : (9 BB, 2 players) 6s
SB checks, Hero bets 3 BB, SB raises to 10.5 BB, Hero calls 7.5 BB
River : (30 BB, 2 players) 8c
SB bets 48.5 BB and is all-in, Hero ?
Suddenly I get this overbet jam at river, what do you think?
Bluff-catch worthy or just fold since the board texture is kinda dry (although 9J gets there now)?
snap call
V line is repping bdfd(ak/aj) and qq only
If he got some random hands like q6 t6 good for him then
It's 2nl. I think 9/10 you're torching if you start over calling based on 'range analysis'.
I think we stick to basics here: chances are he's not bluffing enough, could easily be misplaying a wide merged range, and he likes his hand, a lot. Thus fold comfortably (minus good read)
Now it's a fold in my book. Not a fan of calling overbet shove river at 2nl with weak holdings. The sad thing is he will sometimes be doing this random hands like K5o or weak "value" like Q3, but I don't think it's work fighting over. I think vilain will often have 66 or 88. Don't expect that many straights, but it's also possible.
Fold River. The times they do Bluff it sucks.
but by overfolding all day long vs big riverbets you print money on 2nl (or lose less :p) its a very good exploit on 2nl. The higher up in stakes you go they will start to bluff more offcourse and you should call more etc.
I am playing 2nl myself on GG (I am doing a challenge on 2nl 6-max RC 25 euro to 100 euro). So this is based on my current experience (minimum of 40k hands)