President Donald Trump

President Donald Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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by Luciom

headline inflation clearly increases one time with tariffs but inflation in the sense central banks usually care (core pce / inflation expectations) doesn't change after the one time shock that can be modeled as exogenous.moreover the slowdown that correctly happens (it is a tax so real demand is reduced) afterwards is definitionally deflationary at the margin. so inflation aft

Except Trump's tariffs aren't one time events; they change almost daily.
That makes things less stable than if he just picked something and stuck to it.


by Luciom

new trump tariffs on coffee producing countries are 10%.

ofc the price of coffee itself isn't 100% of what you pay (you pay for logistics , packaging and everything else as well) so any increase above 5-6% (and often less than that) cannot be tariffs

This assumes nobody else in the supply chain is affected which is wrong. Everyone has to get their margin


by Luciom

anti western domestic elements that always existed with a deep hatred for the system that gives them the most prosperity the world has even seen don't need Russian propaganda to be western hating anticapitalists.

Yeah little children getting black lung disease from coal mining tends to piss people off, alongside other achievements of capitalism.

I'm sorry but there is no symmetry in the hatred felt by the political poles in the West. You hate immigrants while they work their asses off, pay taxes, and subsidize your lifestyle with their lower compensation rates. That's just flat irrationality, just hatred based on how another group of people look. The other side, socialists like myself, hate the practice children working mines.

Nobody hates prosperity. Some hate immense inequality and exploitation, and the others like yourself hate people.

Then I suppose you could make a case for Trump and his supporters hating prosperity. I mean, he is trying to drag it into a bathtub and strangle it.


OFC Maga has anti prosperity, anti capitalistic tendencies among itself, that is why people like victor don't hate it as much as liberals think they should.

Bannon is a Marxist like you are.

I don't hate immigrants, I hate subsidizing people and I hate being told by inferior people how to behave.

that's why I am pro open borders at no welfare (including for their offspring) and no path to citizenship (including for their offspring).

you are probably one of those americans who think that given how immigration worked historically in the USA the same is true for everywhere else.

well, fact is we know that's not the case. extra EU immigrants are a significant net drag to our societies and economies over their life cycle. like hundreds of thousands of euros each.

in america the fix would be easier, just removing the insanity of birthright citizenship and making naturalization a tad harder. you don't have the grotesque welfare that makes poor immigrants a drag around here.

lol at the "children working" critique as that wasn't the norm in all human societies until we got ultra prosperous (with capitalism).

and of course communist countries kept exploiting child labor (and in a worse way: by state coercion) for far longer than capitalist countries, because of lower prosperity, so if you hate that you must hate socialism and communism more than capitalism.

Uzbekistan was still doing it 15 years ago, according to this very leftist source

https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/e...


Last night, US President Donald Trump said there would be a "big" news conference at 10:00 (15:00 BST) to announce a "major trade deal" with a "highly respected country"

That's us plucky brits apparantly


You know it's big news when he's looking extra orange. Or maybe it's an intimidation tactic - I've not read Art of the Deal.



I hate being told by inferior people how to behave.

I hate being told by inferior people how to behave.

I hate being told by inferior people how to behave.

I hate being told by inferior people how to behave.

I hate being told by inferior people how to behave.

I hate being told by inferior people how to behave.

A+


All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy....


by weeeez

I hate being told by inferior people how to behave.

I hate being told by inferior people how to behave.

I hate being told by inferior people how to behave.

I hate being told by inferior people how to behave.

I hate being told by inferior people how to behave.

I hate being told by inferior people how to behave.

A+

do you like to be told by people you think are inferior to you how to behave? do you know anyone who does? plenty of americans in this very forum have written about how they dislike MAGA, think it is inferior to them , and hate the idea they are the government today.

Why didn't you address those statements same as you did with mine?


Normal well adjusted people don’t see others as inferior. Some of your ideas and values make you sound like a teenager.


by Luciom

do you like to be told by people you think are inferior to you how to behave? do you know anyone who does? plenty of americans in this very forum have written about how they dislike MAGA, think it is inferior to them , and hate the idea they are the government today.

Why didn't you address those statements same as you did with mine?

MAGA is pretty much enshrined stupidity. As a movement is not only willfully ignorant, it revels in being willfully ignorant. I can safely say that it is the dumbest mainstream political movement in my lifetime.

That doesn't mean supporters or individual members are stupid. The world is not that simple.

Nor is someone stupid necessarily "inferior". Inferior as judgement should hinge on far more than just an assessment of someone's intelligence.


I was talking to a friend of mine who grew up in Canada and is now a naturalized U.S. citizen. He still spends a fair bit of time in Canada.

He said that all this 51st state bullshit has significantly increased not just anti-Trump sentiment but anti-American sentiment generally. He said that the sentiment is fueled by what Canadians perceive as a general lack of outrage among Americans about Trump's rhetoric re Canada.

I responded that most Americans just think that Trump's rhetoric about annexing Canada is unserious nonsense.

He agreed but said that he thought the relative silence on the issue from U.S. politicians other than Trump was alienating to your average Canadian.

I know that we have quite a few Canadians here. I was wondering whether you all agree with my friend's assessment of Canadian public opinion.


At this juncture it might make more sense for Canada to annex the US and make it a province.


I'm gonna try my best to never reply to lucy again or at least slow down drastically.
There is just no discussion possible and beyond that, a huge part of his rethorics should be bannable offense ( but it won't be).
Sad to see a single poster flooding the forum and pretty much controlling it with garbage hatefull content.


Sounds like we are getting the dodgy agricultural produce from the US.

Hope it's clearly marked.


by weeeez

I'm gonna try my best to never reply to lucy again or at least slow down drastically.
There is just no discussion possible and beyond that, a huge part of his rethorics should be bannable offense ( but it won't be).
Sad to see a single poster flooding the forum and pretty much controlling it with garbage hatefull content.

This is the way.


by diebitter

Sounds like we are getting the dodgy agricultural produce from the US.

Hope it's clearly marked.

“Probably causes obesity, cancer, dementia and an early death”.


Have we got anyhtign at all fromt his deal? I mean anythign we didn't have a month or so ago?

We've achieved tariffs on our cars of 10%.

Anything? Other than appeasement?


by Luciom

Bannon is a Marxist like you are.

"Everything I don't like is Marxist and I don't like Bannon"

by Luciom

I don't hate immigrants, I hate subsidizing people and I hate being told by inferior people how to behave.

Lots of questions on this. Who are the inferior people telling you how to behave, how are they inferior, what behaviors are they suggesting, how are they communicating the suggestions, and do they have any enforcement regime? You seem to suggest immigrants are telling you how to behave but that doesn't make any sense on the surface.

by Luciom

well, fact is we know that's not the case. extra EU immigrants are a significant net drag to our societies and economies over their life cycle. like hundreds of thousands of euros each.

Are you in Europe? What group is the referent of "our" here? You should check out this guy named Bannon.

by Luciom

in america the fix would be easier, just removing the insanity of birthright citizenship and making naturalization a tad harder. you don't have the grotesque welfare that makes poor immigrants a drag around here.

Are you for denaturalizing certain populations, maybe based on their geographical origin going back many generations?

by Luciom

lol at the "children working" critique as that wasn't the norm in all human societies until we got ultra prosperous (with capitalism).

Capitalism is usually associated with the industrial revolution, but we had children working in the South in an agrarian economy. But yeah that's what I'm saying, capitalism brought the children of the mines and mills and so forth. we are seeing that practice revived today as regulatory agencies lose power. Immigrant children are being found working in meat processing plants. We hear about it when there is an accident and the kid is maimed or killed. So proud to be an American.


by Rococo

I was talking to a friend of mine who grew up in Canada and is now a naturalized U.S. citizen. He still spends a fair bit of time in Canada.He said that all this 51st state bullshit has significantly increased not just anti-Trump sentiment but anti-American sentiment generally. He said that the sentiment is fueled by what Canadians perceive as a general lack of outrage among

Literally every single person I know who lives outside U.S.A. thinks Trump2 is way worse than Trump1 and has lost a ton of respect for America in general.

But hey, if your competitors are pissed off that means you’re winning right?


I suspect the Uk is first in a lengthly line of competitors bending the knee


Let's all give a round of applause to the President for his actions pumping the stock market


Big Beautiful Bill...


by chezlaw

I suspect the Uk is first in a lengthly line of competitors bending the knee

Bending the knee for sure, but I guess Starmer is hoping his knee had to bent by a few degrees less than the UK's European competitors.

The Bank of England likes it so that's one sign it's probably shite.


The EU will try to achieve the same. Part of this is setting everyone else against each other.

Meanwhile trump will keep demanding. His deals even ignoring the fact it's so vague, aren't any commitment.

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