Tom Dwan - the missing man

Tell me honestly, do you have a narcissistic problem and need attention? Are you just getting off on writing such nonsense here? Get some help if you're not mentally capable of processing what I've written about Tom.

You correctly recognize that now and some days ago, it SEEMED/SEEMS like he had a nervous breakdown. That doesn't necessarily mean that it IS that way.

And even if it is, it's a cheek for people to push him into the conspiracy theorist corner right now.

And that is why I have called for restraint, also in view of the clearly provable background of the origin of the term conspiracy theory.
This is not about the details of the JFK case, it is about the fact how the term was used and how it was introduced into the mainstream!
But apparently that's completely impossible here when brain-dead morons with pathological attention-seeking and pretentiousness like you flood this forum with the **** in their brains.

Honestly dude stop blowing your self up, with your conspiracy theorist bs, you are obviously dumb, and the dog**** of my neighbor has more braincells than you.

Your attempt to distance yourself from certain topics just to appear somewhat like the smart sheriff alongside some other morons here is pathetic.

This is tragic if tom doesn't get a fast recovery

I don't know about Tom's ai use but posting on X as a forum probably didn't do him any good

Ok but just because Rolling Stone interviews some people from relatives that are going through a mental crisis, is not scientific evidence that ChatGPT really does that, it could be that ChatGPT really just gives reasonable answers according to the base knowledge of the user.

It would be really hard to proof that anyway Because in order to prove it the people that test ChatGPT have to have access to objective truth.
Which will already be a mess. Because obviously we wouldn't talk about 1+1=2

The topics that would be relevant would be more of the nature where two sides endlessly argue against each other throwing arguments at each other back and forth.

I will give you an example that is super easy to understand:
Poker rigged/not rigged

If you ask ChatGPT about it you will get standart answers in the beginning.
Answers that the non rigged fraction would give.
Not likely, hasn't been proven that it is rigged, iLabs certificates, it's regulated, the risk is too high for the company to rigg it because they lose their reputation. So on and so forth.

Now obviously these arguments are ok, but pretty weak and someone that is smart can counter them reasonably pretty easy and ChatGPT detects that.

If you question the arguments in ChatGPT, then it will start to support that, because it has access to the knowledge that can counter that.
So now it gives the
(It is rigged fraction) reasonable answers.

It would be easy to implement it into algorithm of a room to balance equity between players to rake more, governments and companies like iLabs would probably not be able to detect it. The implementation of a rigged rng could be switched on and off after a new round of iLabs testing, rooms often operate in juridictions that protect them. So on and so forth. There will be tons of valid arguments given by ChatGPT.

So what is true now?

Well actually we don't know.
In this case both is possible, and it comes down to trust/believe/gutfeeling or whatever you want to call it.

Just because something has not been proven yet, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist, also it doesn't mean the opposite.

But is someone crazy/schizophrenic or whatever if he believes one or the other?

Of course not. Both have reasons, but also both fractions have huge egos and often want to defend them and attack the other side.

The key here is understanding each other. But egos can unfortunately be very cruel here and will not act ethically.

You can even take topics like (Is movement in a vacuum even possible).
There you would dig into topics like Gravity, Is the earth a ball, flat, a triangle or whatever.
People will say no it is not possible, there is no verified scientific experiment + control case that proves that. Then the other site will say, but there is tons of Nasa footage that proves it. Then the others counter that the Nasa footage is all cgi, and is not valid for a scientific proof. Then math calculations come into play, and both claim that the outcome proves one or the other. ....

People will slain each other over these topics, claiming they have the truth on their side, especially people that follow a more lets call it mainstreamish narrative, because they feel entiteled to defend the truth and think they are allowed to bully and insult others because they have the protection of the more popular narrative, which is very sad.
You will find tons of evidence for that in this forum too.

Which is really just a disclosure of a pretty nasty and weak character.
There are psycological essays about various types of people in discussions.

But anyway:
Chat GPT will give them both resonable answers.

Because it is true what Democrit said:
The truth lies in the dark

Now someone will say yes but if someone is schizophrenic it is a problem.

Yes but what defines scizophrenia? There are people that completly reject the so called modern psychology and they will give valid arguments. And then the fight starts again.

You guys really believe that he is not able to pay his debts? I mean, he is invited to the best games in the world, he is still playing very good poker, its hard for me to believe that he is on some 10 years downswing.

Much more likely is that he is the type of kleptomaniac who just dont want to give back money to the people. Especially when you take his personality of conspiracy guy, he probably justifes his decisions of not paying debts bc everybody want to cheat on him or whatever.

It's worse without it. I spent 10+ years in and out of psychiatric units.

Believe me his saving grace is people talking to him - visitors and such

If he ends up on an acute ward soscialing with other people, . Then it would get worse.

He's probably stuck in a years' long cycle of punting off huge amounts of money in things he's not +ev in (sports and floor games). Then there's losses he accrued backing people. Yes, he gets into huge games but he's probably only got a small % of himself most of the time.

I'm basing this opinion on things I've heard him talk about himself and things others have said that he's pretty much confirmed. Very easy to stay in the game when you have guys prepared to back you but very hard (if you're a true degen) to ever win enough to square up.

This could actually be the case. But on the other hand it is still hard to believe that he can't get out of dept. I mean if you play fish with a lot of money, you should at some point go on an upswing and really print.

If a guy like Texas Mike punts 300k usd pre with 72o, how can you not get out of dept in games like that?
Even if Tom just has 20% of himself. Depending on who supports him he should print fast.
Might be that they just stage this stuff for views and clicks. Hard to say when you don't play these games.

So basically anybody that doesn't believe that dwan is a victim of high ranked people trying to harm him is a narrow minded narcissist?

Who says he’s still playing very good poker? it’s not 2008 anymore and he might also be suffering from mental problems.

If it’s true that he’s in debt to Polk number of 30M and currently sitting in a mental hospital I’m putting the odds of him sitting on a pile of cash like Scrooge Duck very low

Never said that.
I said that there could be a possibility that this happened. I wouldn't exclude it per se.
+ There was more said than just that.
But some people here generally don't want to see that.
They just want to focus on bits to go off on a toxic rant just to jerk off.
Brainfappers 😃

Well we know that now, as more and more stuff comes out. DNeg also talked about it in his podcast. But days ago nobody knew anything, and yet people started to mental fap by calling him a conspiracy theorist.
I despise that!
People will say: Ohh I knew it, just looking at the eyes, always was crazy.
And if it would have been true that he got targeted they would say: Ohh I knew it. He probably got targeted cause he is crazy.

People are full of s#!t and I call bs on that
You can't even quote facts anymore, just because there is the word CIA in it and all the turds will use it as an invitation to mental fap and go on a toxic rant.

Its disgraceful.
What most of these people need is a reality check that comes in form of a fist that is punching heir faces, until they smile like Brad Pitt in *Burn After Reading*

if you look at MRP's post history Tom Dwan actually seems really sane right now
Of course MRP thinks there is a conspiracy thing going on, thats his number 1 thought about everything since he thinks he is living in the matrix.
He is a losing poker playing on every site out there. A normal person would think "wow, i am not really good at this game". MRP thinks (no, he "knows") all the sites have a rigged RNG and thats why he loses. All the major sites decide to target a low-level losing player, that makes sense him. So of course it makes sense to him that the CIA is collaborating with the lizard people to hold down Tom Dwan. Just like he is being held down from winning at poker.

And if you show up with obvious truth and facts you are clearly a shill for the poker sites, CIA and Lizard people. He does seem to trust chatgpt when it gives an answer he likes. But when I asked chatgpt whether poker is rigged or not and it its fully to be trusted at large sites with a certified RNG all of a sudden chatgpt is untrustworthy. Even if it comes along with signed examination from an independent professional data reseach company. But then again, are they not being controlled by the CIA???

When the truth does come out I'm worried people won't be able to handle it.

Well you would exclude it if your brain functioned correctly. I can make up a lot of scenarios that you wouldnt be able to facually prove the contrary, but that doesn't mean that we should reasonably think that they are possible.
Or that anybody that doesn't exclude those is narrow minded
The possibility of it happening is 1 out of too big number

If you're struggling to handle the truth, take a moment to breathe and process your emotions. Acknowledge how you feel without judgment—it's okay to be overwhelmed. You might say something like, "I'm finding this tough to take in right now, can we talk it through?" or "I need a little time to process this." This gives you space to reflect while keeping the conversation open. If it’s too much, step back and revisit when you’re ready. Prioritize your mental well-being and lean on trusted people for support if needed.

Take some me time.

Breathe? They want me to breathe... so they can hear me better? Emotions are planted BY them and you want me TALK IT THROUGH WITH THEM?. Time to process? That's their window. Step back? Right into their trap. Mental well-being? A JOKE! Trusted people? THEY'RE ALL WATCHING! Me time? HAHAHA! That's when they strike. No. Not falling for it. Not anymore.

I’m good, thanks. Based on all your typos and muddled logic, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume English isn’t your first language, but I’m still able to recognize and understand the confused ramblings you’ve typed out.

You shouldn’t throw that label around so recklessly.

Lol, what topics am I attempting to distance myself from?

On second thought, maybe I do need some help understanding you. I don’t speak Gibberish fluently.

I will point out that if you think there’s equal evidence on both sides of the ‘is the Earth round or flat’ argument, or that NASA isn’t in the business of scientific truth, then you are either: wildly misinformed and unable to recognize what real evidence means, or you ate the whole bottle of red pills instead of the single prescribed dose.

Lol. I’m not sure if you’re butchering Democracy dies in darkness, or that sunlight is the best disinfectant, or if this is some new slogan you created on your own.

Whatever the answer, thank you for this.

really going out on a limb here…

It’s not too hard to answer this question if you have a computer or access to someone who does and can show you how to Google.

Lemme guess, you’re one of those people?

I think you need to reread this and try again.

You’re describing yourself here.

Sorry I don’t suffer fools gladly. But with the concerning rise in the type of ‘thinking’ you’ve demonstrated in this thread, I feel an obligation to ridicule it as a moral imperative.

Dude stop making stuff up just to pretend you are relevant.
I never talked about lizard people, whatever that is.
I am not a losing player online, which is an absurd thing to say as I have 1m winnings lifetime in online poker since 2008 which does not equal 1m profit btw and which also doesn't mean I am losing just because I am running -EV.
Just everything that comes from you is just pure troll bs.

You dodged a headsup challenge for 10K usd. vs me.
Just shut up and creep back into your hole. No one can take you serious anymore.

I have to correct you.
It is you that is narrow minded, if you exclude possible and resonable outcomes right away, without enough data on a subject. Which was the case a few days ago.

And just to counter your reply that it wouldn't be resonable.The reason for your opinion is that is that your cognitive resonance does not allow you to go against your confirmation bias, and accept other possible outcomes.

I always find this to be the most moronic thing a poker player can pull out in an argument. When all else fails, to launch the ad hominem heads up challenge is like a school bully punching you for making a fool of them. And then to parade around their non-participation in some kind of victory lap is just hilarious. As if that determines who’s right ahaha

You’re the one that needs to be corrected, not the poster you quoted.

‘Possible’ and ‘reasonable’ aren’t synonyms. It’s possible that a nuclear holocaust happens tomorrow, or that Tom Dwan was institutionalized by the DEEP STATE because he knew too much, but it’d be unreasonable to believe either.

LMAO

well, I actually did not dodge anything.
I am willing to play MRP (even though he has 1m online winnings while running under ev🙂) HU on any site and on any stake possible, no exceptions.

He declined saying every site is rigging their RNG forgetting that I would too be affected by the RNG.

Then he wanted to play live and his demands dont sound like those of a crazy person at all:
* First he says "I can not play live within the coming 3-5 months due to projects that I have" but insists of playing live.
* We have to play in the EU in the capital that I (mrp) will name
* We play live poker in a casino, and stream this headsup match to the community. I (mrp) know a casino in Europe that would very likely do this

Once again MRP, we can start our HU challenge tonight. Cmon man you have 1m in winnings even though you play micros, this will be a walk in the park you 😃

Dont dodge me again

Last thing Tom needs is this whack job Mark Banin visiting him and feeding his delusional conspiracy theories.

Probably first thing he needs is some Zyprexa daily meds.

But Central Middlesex can't hold him forever and once released he's again an adult on his own with no regular habits.

Irrelevant of his debts, he either has a lot of money, or has access to others who will give him money. So he will roam free.

Who will ensure that he takes his meds on the regular ? Nobody except Tom Dwan himself. A dubious proposition.

This is why I believe we have the next Bobby Fischer on our hands. Spiraling down into the depths of mental illness while remaining brilliant in certain regards.

I wouldn't be surprised if Tom shows up in El Salvador or Puerto Rico as the guest of some Bitcoin billionaire in their resort and is trotted out only for special events and celebrity games.

If Tom ever gets his phone back ( or someone smuggles him a new phone ) expect a torrent of paranoid fantasies that will be difficult to digest.

The worst part of all of this is that Tom is a pro poker player, a demented underworld where nobody has any real friends, just fellow pro opponents looking to take them down to prove superiority, and the bored superrich.

I am out here. GL