President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
maybe the disagreement is also about what constitutes due process.
because Biden deported 2.5m people iirc (mostly people apprehended near the border yes, but still deported), and afaik there weren't 2.5m court cases
It's not particularly relevant how many people were deported by Biden (or by any other previous president), but as I said, just dumping people back where they came from at least doesn't inherently take away their liberty in the same way that prison does.
And anyway, Trump didn't express any argument about what constitutes "due process", he said he didn't know if it was owed to everyone.
Trump: "The courts have all of the sudden, out of nowhere, they said, 'maybe you have to have trials.' Trials. We're gonna have 5 million trials? It doesn't work. You wouldn't have a country left."
Due process in an immigration context is like an extremely low bar too. You don’t have a right to a lawyer. You don’t have a right to discovery. It’s basically just a hearing in front of a DOJ admin employee.
Almost all of this could have been done without any real challenge, just slower. Total self own, imo. Very similar to the DOGE firings / program cuts.
The whole op was to frame the Democrats as genocidal maniacs so that it would frame Trump as "the equal or lesser evil"
"frame"?
I guess that's ok if you're using the one particular usage of that word, which I suspect you are, so nevermind, but anyway, yes, the Democrats have historically been willful participants in genocide and war approximately as much as Republicans have been, and they are indeed the lesser of two evils. You think Clinton or Obama were doves?
You don't need an "op" (lol) for that obvious truth to be disseminated.
When are Trump and Elon gonna break up?
I keep hearing it's inevitable, but I don't know, I think both of them need each other quite a lot, it's a mutually parasitic relationship, I think Elon's gonna stick around within the Extended Trump Universe for the whole term.
When are Trump and Elon gonna break up?
I keep hearing it's inevitable, but I don't know, I think both of them need each other quite a lot, it's a mutually parasitic relationship, I think Elon's gonna stick around within the Extended Trump Universe for the whole term.
Didn't elon leave the building? Haven't heard anything from him for a bit.
"frame"? I guess that's ok if you're using the one particular usage of that word, which I suspect you are, so nevermind, but anyway, yes, the Democrats have historically been willful participants in genocide and war approximately as much as Republicans have been, and they are indeed the lesser of two evils. You think Clinton or Obama were doves?You don't need an "op" (lol) fo
I think Republican shut off billions of dollars of global aid that provided food, water, education, medicine like HIV drugs in Haiti and Africa, jobs, entertainment, and general stability across the globe and if you think that makes both sides the same you are just wrong.
Its like stating both sides are the same on Israel when one is talking about glassing the bank to build a Trump Taj Mahal while the other was trying to reign Bibi in a bit. Its just objectively nonsense.
Its possible you are just incapable of analyzing geopolitical situations with any shred of nuance
No doubt making dank memes and creeping on OF girls.
He's still head of DOGE and still doing his thing. I DO think that Trump is personally tired of this guy hanging around the White House, but they still seem inextricably tied. Hope I'm wrong!
I think Republican shut off billions of dollars of global aid that provided food, water, education, medicine like HIV drugs in Haiti...
whoa!
Bringing up HAITI to make an argument the Democrats are lesser warmongers and exploiters than the Republican is... SOMETHING. LOLOLOLOL
You're speculating that I can't speak "with nuance" while being completely unaware of how our country and the Democratic Party in particular has treated the FIRST NATION YOU BROUGHT UP. Go spend at least 1.6 milliseconds learning about how the Clinton Foundation has absolutely abused and ravaged Haiti (while insidiously pretending to remove Haitians from poverty) and get back to me.
Talking to me about "nuance". Mother****er, the gulf between what I know and what you know is enormous.
Elon is still around giving random interviews. They've done a few DOGE sympathy pieces here and there. Hes absolutely toned it down after being on a manic tear, but still saying ******ed **** like
Nevermind that the sun making the earth unviable is about 2x as far away as the earth has currently existed (IE ~8 billion years from now)
He's still head of DOGE and still doing his thing. I DO think that Trump is personally tired of this guy hanging around the White House, but they still seem inextricably tied. Hope I'm wrong!whoa!Bringing up HAITI to make an argument the Democrats are lesser warmongers and exploiters than the Republican is... SOMETHING. LOLOLOLOLYou're speculating that I can't speak "with nua
Okay, I'll state it quite plainly.
You are simply too simple to be doing this type of analysis
You claim to have almighty knowledge of a nuanced subject yet your conclusion is GENOCIDAL
Its like stating both sides are the same on Israel when one is talking about glassing the bank to build a Trump Taj Mahal while the other was trying to reign Bibi in a bit. Its just objectively nonsense.
for the record, I've never expressed this opinion in my life
Biden/Harris and Trump/Vance are different on Israel; Trump is more nakedly corrupt about it. The fact that Trump enjoys MASSIVE popularity amongst Israel's citizenry, whereas Biden never did, is no coincidence.
They DID both materially and politically support Israel's genocide of the Palestinians, so, they're both rotten on this issue, but there are levels to it. This is the level of nuance I've held the entire time on this issue.
A personal congrats to you for supporting the more mildly genocidal political party!
Okay, I'll state it quite plainly.
You are simply too simple to be doing this type of analysis
You claim to have almighty knowledge of a nuanced subject yet your conclusion is GENOCIDAL
everything you've ever stated is plain
Here are some plain facts: I know more about the world than you do. I know more about American political life than you do. I'm considerably more naturally intelligent than you are. I'm an infinitely better writer than you are.
But no, forget that, tell me more about all the wonderful things the Democrats have done for Haiti. HAITI. Haiti, of all places! The Clintons' favorite mass burial site!
saying that the Democrats have done good work for Haitians is arguably the dumbest, and certainly the most ahistorical, take in the history of the internet
coordi, IQ test for 20k? US Civics test for 20k? Let's see who is simple, pussy
I think Republican shut off billions of dollars of global aid that provided food, water, education, medicine like HIV drugs in Haiti and Africa, jobs, entertainment, and general stability across the globe and if you think that makes both sides the same you are just wrong.Its like stating both sides are the same on Israel when one is talking about glassing the bank to build a Tr
you think that "global aid" didnt come with strings attached and did more harm than good?
and I am sorry but you are just misinformed if you think the Biden admin tried to rein Bibi in. just the other day a bunch of state department ghouls like Sullivan and Hochstein and bragged about never pressuring Bibi to stop.
You claim to have almighty knowledge of a nuanced subject yet your conclusion is GENOCIDAL
My "conclusion is GENOCIDAL"
Do you think that's how language works? My "conclusion" "destroys a certain national, ethnic, or political group"? Does that make sense? Have you read at least one book at some point in your life? Do you smell toast?
basic ass shitlib -- wouldn't shock me if you're a fan of CIA Pete Buttigieg
everything you've ever stated is plainHere are some plain facts: I know more about the world than you do. I know more about American political life than you do. I'm considerably more naturally intelligent than you are. I'm an infinitely better writer than you are.But no, forget that, tell me more about all the wonderful things the Democrats have done for Haiti. HAITI. Hai
The Clinton foundation hasn't operated in Haiti since 2011 and is largely a case of bungled aid. I don't know what kind of nonsense you think actually went on but its not particularly unique or interesting
And I have no clue what the Clinton Foundation has to do with HIV medicine in 2025. Well I do have a clue, its nothing. They aren't related in the slightest
you think that "global aid" didnt come with strings attached and did more harm than good?
and I am sorry but you are just misinformed if you think the Biden admin tried to rein Bibi in. just the other day a bunch of state department ghouls like Sullivan and Hochstein and bragged about never pressuring Bibi to stop.
Yeah by your standards advancing US Soft power and global reach is causing harm so I understand hwy you are saying this but I simply disagree with your methodology
This is like asking someone to take a polygraph test for 20k. Hilarous, but kind of dumb
The Clinton foundation hasn't operated in Haiti since 2011 and is largely a case of bungled aid.
Did I say it was ongoing? No, I didn't, but again, you're a remarkably poor reader.
"bungled aid" -- yeah, that's one way of putting it. One obtuse, moronic way of putting it
Anyway, pussy, you called me simple, yet I already know you won't accept my IQ and/or civics test for rollz. Pussy. P-U-S-S-Y.
Did I say it was ongoing? No, I didn't, but again, you're a remarkably poor reader.
"bungled aid" -- yeah, that's one way of putting it. One obtuse, moronic way of putting it
Anyway, pussy, you called me simple, yet I already know you won't accept my IQ and/or civics test for rollz. Pussy. P-U-S-S-Y.
No you are right, just you brought up something completely unrelated to my point to attack my point. Well done
uhhhhhhh, with the slight difference the polygraphs are inherently flawed in ways an IQ test or civics test could never be?!?
Holy Christ you're dumb. Mother****er can't even spell "hilarious".
IQ tests are incredibly flawed and civics has nothing to do with intelligence
I get you are mad that you got called out for having incredibly simple takes on complex subjects but you need to stop throwing out insult laden tirades with no content
