President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
No you are right, you just organically started caring about this 100 year old conflict months before an election
What people are really thinking and what their real motives are is always an open question. But if you think the people who care about the I/P conflict, the ones who are out protesting and synthesizing information for others, if you think those people are secretly in the bag for Trump you should get out to some rallies and talk to some of them and see what you think then.
Honestly anyone who follows politics and is not using the genocide of Palestinians as a litmus test are the ones who should have their motives questioned. Like you're into politics but the most abominable result in all of politics, ethnic mass murder and ethnic cleansing, is being funded by your party and you are disinterested? Then why are you concerning yourself with politics? Why don't you go play frisbee golf or something? Gaza is the hot spot resolving the fundamental political test for our time: will mankind fall to the philosophy of might makes right or can we evolve and sustain ourselves? And you are just going to yadayada over that? Something rings really false about people like that.
What people are really thinking and what their real motives are is always an open question. But if you think the people who care about the I/P conflict, the ones who are out protesting and synthesizing information for others, if you think those people are secretly in the bag for Trump you should get out to some rallies and talk to some of them and see what you think then.Honest
The boots on the ground are irrelevant. Its their work getting manipulated in the pipeline that matters. I'm not saying they are for Trump. I'm saying the people who were manipulated into not voting due to apathy over the isreal/palestinian conflict are useful idiots that effectively helped get Trump elected.
And unsurprisingly Trump has walked that back
If there’s one thing that spurs investment in America it’s mass confusion and inconsistent policies
I wonder if some people's opinions would be different if the attacks on Gaza weren't streamed online but the original attack on the dance party had been.
The boots on the ground are irrelevant. Its their work getting manipulated in the pipeline that matters. I'm not saying they are for Trump. I'm saying the people who were manipulated into not voting due to apathy over the isreal/palestinian conflict are useful idiots that effectively helped get Trump elected.
Manipulated?
By who? And how?
Mass manipulation requires media. Israel resumed it's bombing of a captive civilian population 6 weeks ago and none of the supposedly serious major news shows, Face the Nation, This Week, Meet the Press, or State of the Union have mentioned it once. That's manipulation. That's done by people who have power. They control the major media and they shepherd voters into the major 2 parties.
Not everything is a conspiratorial plot just because you lose. In spite of, not because of, manipulative efforts to obscure the issue and normalize atrocities, people found out that mass murder based on ethnic hatred was happening and, in response, they decided (at least some did) that they still wanted to be human beings and not become the sort of animals who would accept that level of injustice. The Democrats lost because they are lost, morally, and as a result found themselves cheering on fascist racist genocide. They did that. Voters saw it. The only manipulation was that done by the fascist forces who did their best to complicate and minimize the issue.
Manipulated by the same twitter/facebook/reddit/etc pipeline that everyone gets manipulated through. This stuff isn't conspiracy, its well documented public information.
And I didn't say it because Democrats lost, I mentioned the politicization of the conflict was election manipulation late 2023 or early 2024
The whole op was to frame the Democrats as genocidal maniacs so that it would frame Trump as "the equal or lesser evil"
The 5th Amendment to the United States Constitution:
"No person shall... be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law"
President Donald Trump, when asked if he agreed that every person in the United States is entitled to due process:
“I don’t know. I’m not, I’m not a lawyer. I don’t know.”
By the way, in the 1993 Supreme Court case Reno v. Flores, that woke Justice Antonin Scalia wrote: “it is well established that the Fifth Amendment entitles aliens to due process of law in deportation proceedings.”
Manipulated by the same twitter/facebook/reddit/etc pipeline that everyone gets manipulated through. This stuff isn't conspiracy, its well documented public information. And I didn't say it because Democrats lost, I mentioned the politicization of the conflict was election manipulation late 2023 or early 2024The whole op was to frame the Democrats as genocidal maniacs so that
It wasn't an op.
Stephen Miller's argument is that they aren't depriving them of life, liberty, or property
Huh, he doesn't think that prison counts as a deprivation of liberty? If not, what does he think would count?
Huh, he doesn't think that prison counts as a deprivation of liberty? If not, what does he think would count?
That was my thought too. Maybe hes just referring to your average illegal alien getting deported but even then it would be depriving them of property if they already live here
That was my thought too. Maybe hes just referring to your average illegal alien getting deported but even then it would be depriving them of property if they already live here
I could even see it if they were just dumping the people into the country of their birth. But since they're being delivered directly to prison, and they're even paying the prison to take them, that certainly confirms the depriving of liberty.
lol too embarassed to even put the source for the list - aus and ireland gotta be way more dangerous than any number of asian countries
The 5th Amendment to the United States Constitution:"No person shall... be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law"President Donald Trump, when asked if he agreed that every person in the United States is entitled to due process:“I don’t know. I’m not, I’m not a lawyer. I don’t know.” By the way, in the 1993 Supreme Court case Reno v. Flores, that wok
maybe the disagreement is also about what constitutes due process.
because Biden deported 2.5m people iirc (mostly people apprehended near the border yes, but still deported), and afaik there weren't 2.5m court cases
lol too embarassed to even put the source for the list - aus and ireland gotta be way more dangerous than any number of asian countries
What do you think happens in Australia and Ireland? Attacked by marauding kangaroos / drowned in a vat of Guinness?
maybe the disagreement is also about what constitutes due process.
because Biden deported 2.5m people iirc (mostly people apprehended near the border yes, but still deported), and afaik there weren't 2.5m court cases
Yes, he removed those people from near the border. The court has already held that’s a different situation than someone who already has ties in the country.
I think you guys live in a made up narrative about MAGA.Christopher F. Rufo ⚔️@realchrisrufoIt makes good geopolitical sense to isolate China, onshore high-end production to the US, and shift low-end production to friendly nations, such as Mexico, which can become America's workshop. Then zero/zero tariffs for allies with similar wage and environmental standards.[L
You aren't very fluent in political speech it would seem.
Allow me to translate the post:
"Why the **** did you guys start a trade war against the whole world, when we should have been strengthening our alliances with developed nations so we could isolate China. Right now, we're isolating ourselves instead. You're a bunch of morons".
Of course, some light research reveals that this guy is just yet another "conservative" pundit who has devoted his life to inconsequential issues, yet acts completely surprised when "conservatives" are no longer good at handling consequential issues.
Trump is very good at the 1984 doublethink.
“It sort of represents something that’s both horrible and beautiful and strong and miserable, weak,” he added. “It’s got a lot of qualities that are interesting.”
What do you think happens in Australia and Ireland? Attacked by marauding kangaroos / drowned in a vat of Guinness?
That's the key - they don't think, they just follow their feelings. Americans are on the whole a bunch of pussy scaredy-cats, and Mongi is far from alone in this.
What do you think happens in Australia and Ireland? Attacked by marauding kangaroos / drowned in a vat of Guinness?
Too soon mate. We lost a lot of good people in the Great Guinness Vat Drowning of 2023.
lol too embarassed to even put the source for the list - aus and ireland gotta be way more dangerous than any number of asian countries
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