President Donald Trump

President Donald Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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by jalfrezi

I’ll let chezlaw explain it to you. That should prove a suitably humbling experience.

I don't need chezlaw to explain to me that you can't get your criticisms of Kamala straight and keep contradicting yourself, and I'm also perfectly capable of humbling him without it.


by jalfrezi

I’ll let chezlaw explain it to you. That should prove a suitably humbling experience.

You shoudl probably havce realsied by now that d2 is here to mock and that understanding stuff doens't help him.

The latest bit is just too silly. If I said (as I have) that as a juror I would be very reluctant to find someone guilty if they may be sentenced to death then the fact I dont do the sentencing isn't an argument to take seriously.


by FreakDaddy

Press freedom in the United States has hit a record low, according to the latest World Press Freedom Index.


I cant believe Donald Trump would do something like this



by chezlaw

You shoudl probably havce realsied by now that d2 is here to mock and that understanding stuff doens't help him.

The latest bit is just too silly. If I said (as I have) that as a juror I would be very reluctant to find someone guilty if they may be sentenced to death then the fact I dont do the sentencing isn't an argument to take seriously.

So... prosecutors shouldn't prosecute crimes because if the defendants are found guilty they'll be sent to prison. Well, glad you explained that to me, I feel truly humbled and totally buy in to the whole argument now.


by Deuces McKracken

You're just wrong on the facts. She closed a tremendous gap and was slightly ahead of Trump after Biden's campaign was dead. It was the type of effect you just don't see that often. I usually don't make these sort of statements, but I can't think of any athlete whose absence or presence could move a line as much as Kamala moved the line for the Dems initially. Biden was down to

She was 50% to win, and she ended up with 48.3% of the vote. Where are you getting a huge change? We're not talking about from Biden, but from Harris at her beginning to Harris on election day.


by d2_e4

So... prosecutors shouldn't prosecute crimes because if the defendants are found guilty they'll be sent to prison. Well, glad you explained that to me, I feel truly humbled and totally buy in to the whole argument now.

Could do better. Try again


by chezlaw

Could do better. Try again

"We shouldn't support X running for office because he/she was a prosecutor" is a dogshit argument, and whether I mock it or not is not going to change that. It's really amazing how all you bleeding hearts think that the people in prison are there for being late to church on Sunday or something. There's a pretty easy way to stay out of prison and it works for absolutely everyone regardless of background - don't commit ****ing crimes.


by Bored5000

"black men don't care much for black women, and certainly don't want them in any positions of power."The above was the portion you fixed. If what you wrote is true, it required staggering levels of incompetence and buffoonery among anyone with power in the Democratic party to allow a candidate to be installed as the nominee when black men won't vote for a black women. And, yet,

A majority still voted for Harris, and polls aren't the same as elections.

Staggering levels of incompetence have been shown in both Republicans and Democrats nominee selection since 2016.


"We shouldn't support X running for office because he/she was a prosecutor" is a dogshit argument, and whether I mock it or not is not going to change that.

That's a partial conclusion, not the argument.

I get you're not remotely interested. Maybe best to stick to the mocking - or grammer your good at that.

It's really amazing how all you bleeding hearts think that the people in prison are there for being late to church on Sunday or something. There's a pretty easy way to stay out of prison and it works for absolutely everyone regardless of background - don't commit ****ing crimes.

I hear it in michael howard's voice. I wonder why I think you are right wing.


by Luciom

I mean you don't need to sanctify Obama to admit he was one of the most liked and successful politicians on the center left of the last 30+ years worldwide.

and no he didn't reduce press freedom, that's the point

Prosecuting reporters, using indictments to threaten them into revealing sources, spying and wiretapping them... his legacy on this issue is a bad one.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/m...
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/09/us/po...
https://www.cjr.org/criticism/barack_oba...

His administration also killed the "media shield" bill which would have codified and strengthened journalist protections, a bill he had previously stated strong support for.

And before anyone goes "but this was about national security". First of all, as much as I think national security is important, it can't give you carte blanch to block the press. Secondly, the theme of these stories that somehow warranted indicting journalists is largely about intelligence blunders, operational failures and questionable and intrusive domestic surveillance programs. Which means it wasn't about national security as much as it was about government trying to protect itself from negative fallout.

With Trump press freedom in the US is circling the drain, but nobody should live under the illusion that he or modern day "conservatives" somehow laid the groundwork that all by themselves.


by jalfrezi

What created his army of the far right is economic stagnation, just as it was in the 1930s, with people willing/wanting to believe that immigrants are the problem.It's a simple message that resonates strongly with the perpetual victims of a brutal capitalist structure

If this pushes people to support someone like Trump, who is clearly part of the 1%, and constantly funnels money to other members of the 1%, then the problem definitely is stupidity.


by chillrob

A majority still voted for Harris, and polls aren't the same as elections.

Staggering levels of incompetence have been shown in both Republicans and Democrats nominee selection since 2016.

you can't really treat a candidate chosen by voters in primaries the same as an hand picked candidate of the party elites, can you?

democrats voters had their say in primaries about Harris and confidently said they were disgusted by her more than basically all other options they were given.

republican primary voters wanted Trump.

not the same.


by Luciom

you can't really treat a candidate chosen by voters in primaries the same as an hand picked candidate of the party elites, can you?

democrats voters had their say in primaries about Harris and confidently said they were disgusted by her more than basically all other options they were given.

republican primary voters wanted Trump.

not the same.

They're not the same, but still the results of party stupidity. Trump shouldn't even have been in the primary elections of 2016.

Parties aren't even required to hold primaries, and they don't have to do anything based on the results of the primaries.


by Victor

I cant believe Donald Trump would do something like this

Is this a pic of Lucy at the end of his 2+2 shift?


by Luciom

Politico with a very strong article which was (I think?) meant to be an indictment of Trump admin efforts at changing the course of society but is the best recognition that change is actually happening, and in a direction that was long overdue.

Some highlights /The government under President Dona

I wonder after all your complains about all the presidents and program for the last 60-80 years , if there is a period of American history u liked …


by Luciom

you can't really treat a candidate chosen by voters in primaries the same as an hand picked candidate of the party elites, can you?

democrats voters had their say in primaries about Harris and confidently said they were disgusted by her more than basically all other options they were given.

republican primary voters wanted Trump.

not the same.

??? she realized she couldn’t win early and dropped out so she wouldn’t play spoiler (unlike Warren who had no chance but stayed until way past her welcome was worn and embarrassed herself coming third in her own state). that’s hardly an indictment of Harris.


by Rococo

Unsurprisingly, this bullshit argument got rejected by a federal court in Texas today. The judge was a Trump appointee.

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And now a different judge has ruled that the Trump's executive order directed at Perkins Coie is unconstitutional. I hope the firms that bent for Trump to avoid being the target of similar orders are ashamed.

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i hope there are consequences beyond "shame" because they're obviously shameless, willing collaborators


by chillrob

A majority still voted for Harris, and polls aren't the same as elections.

Staggering levels of incompetence have been shown in both Republicans and Democrats nominee selection since 2016.

In 2016, most Republican politicians were against Trump until it became completely hopeless to try and prevent him from being the nominee; they didn't just install him as the nominee.


The DNC didn't "just install" anyone as the nominee either, and it's very weird that people think that's what happened.


by Bored5000

In 2016, most Republican politicians were against Trump until it became completely hopeless to try and prevent him from being the nominee; they didn't just install him as the nominee.

No, but they could have prevented him from being the nominee, either openly or surreptitiously.


by chezlaw

You shoudl probably havce realsied by now that d2 is here to mock and that understanding stuff doens't help him.

Yes that’s been apparent for a long time, which is why it’s barely worth engaging him about politics.


by chillrob

If this pushes people to support someone like Trump, who is clearly part of the 1%, and constantly funnels money to other members of the 1%, then the problem definitely is stupidity.

No more stupid than the people who believe all the other propaganda they’ve been fed, like America winning the Second World War for instance.


by Land O Lakes

Is this a pic of Lucy at the end of his 2+2 shift?

Can’t be. Those guys aren’t wearing long white coats.


by jalfrezi

Can’t be. Those guys aren’t wearing long white coats.

😃

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