Tom Dwan - the missing man
Tom Dwan - the missing man
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Tom Dwan - the missing man

How convenient is it that he just falls off the face of the earth after issuing and bailing half way through a 50k hand

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03 June 2015 at 12:38 AM
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Uh oh, maybe the ACR check bounced sending him into a mental breakdown.


He should file bankruptcy wipe his hands clean and never play another hand of poker.


by NumerousChamois m

He should file bankruptcy wipe his hands clean and never play another hand of poker.

Why? I thought he was the greatest and printed millions in Asia. I really don't keep up with these people anymore. I just remember reading he was an ACR pro now.


Tom's feeling better



by SuperSwag m

Tom's feeling better

Phew! I can finally sleep easy tonight.


by SuperSwag m

Tom's feeling better

Thinking water is poisoned is a very typical paranoid delusion... Feel bad for him... I've been in his spot many times. Can happen to anyone apparently.


I wouldn't be so quick just to take the authorities at their word and assume Tom Dwan has significant mental problems that suddenly materialized overnight. He's 38 years old, which is about a decade beyond the usual onset of schizophrenia symptoms or similar. I'd definitely be concerned about the possibility that A) he was actually drugged at a game by people wanting to try to get his money and has been behaving erratically because of that, something like giving him drugged water or B) people around him are trying to force him into a conservatorship or something so that they can get control of his money, and also possibly drugging him to pull that off.

High roller in his late 30s suddenly starts acting crazy, my first thought actually would be that someone slipped something in his drink not a mental breakdown from a predisposition to mental illness. 5/5 player in his mid 20s starts acting crazy, I'd think it was the second, but not in Dwan's case.


A) he was actually drugged at a game by people wanting to try to get his money and has been behaving erratically because of that, something like giving him drugged water or B) people around him are trying to force him into a conservatorship or something so that they can get control of his money, and also possibly drugging him to pull that off.

Yes so they can package $30M debt as CDOs and sell to private equity.


by PugDolk m

I wouldn't be so quick just to take the authorities at their word and assume Tom Dwan has significant mental problems that suddenly materialized overnight. He's 38 years old, which is about a decade beyond the usual onset of schizophrenia symptoms or similar. I'd definitely be concerned about the possibility that A) he was actually drugged at a game by people wanting to try t

If by chance anybody know this guy, please make sure he's stable or that he get diagnosed if it hasn't been done already. Seriously


Regarding all the ideas that the community gives here, I want to say this:

Please be careful with using fighting terms like (conspiracy/conspiracy theory etc.), because using these often highlights the limited perspective
that the user might have due to being less informed about a certain topic that might go over his head.

Using these terms often highlight a certain amount of ignorance and lack of depth, when being wrong.
Lack of information can lead to extremely subjective opinions that turn into a mess when expressing that opinion.
This can be very harmful to others.

Also keep in mind that this term is used inflationary to discredit unwanted opinions.
In fact: It was invented by the CIA during the Kennedy assassination for exactly that purpose.
That is a fact and can be researched, because it is documented by the CIA.

Which I find funny, because an agency that was invented to basically always work against the people, openly admitting this is pretty dumb.
No intelligence there.

Always keep in mind that certain situations can have various reasons that you might not have taken into account, because you are missing certain information!

There are so many red lines that could lead to the statements that Tom made in his account. It could even be that it is not him tweeting.

Being drugged at a poker table, in order to get scammed is a concern to every poker player that plays professionally. That has nothing to do with being paranoid.
That is common sense and being aware and protecting ones self, knowing that there are people that don't shy away from doing EVERYTHING to make money.

That being said, if one gets drugged, that can have a massive impact onto your mental output, and then obviously lead to statements that give the impression, that one lost their mind.
It can also lead to damage over time, that needs time to fully heal.

One thing is for sure. If Tom posted everything himself, there is a likelihood that he really needs people around him that he can trust, and that give good live advice, and he will need a break now for sure.

And if he really is in debt with certain people, there is always a solution to deal with that.


Follow up:
And if he really is in debt with certain people, there is always a solution to deal with that.
Fact is that people that are in harsh live circumstances tend to create a tunnel vision, due to the stress that they are in.
Their brain does not allow them to come up with creative solutions.
This goes for someone in debt, but also for the people that this individual owes money to, because they are also in stress. (emotional)
There are ALWAYS ways to bring a solution to both sites so both can accept living with it.
It is a matter of point of views and creativity in solution seeking.

These situations need more than two people to brainstorm about it. That is why thinktanks are so successful.


by auralex14 m

I just watched the rambling 45 min interview and Tom appears incapable of putting a cogent thought together. I just heard the incoherent ramblings of someone whose mind seems to be deteriorating.Kinda sad. Even though I’m a few years older than Tom I used to admire him quite a bit, back in the HSP days, when I was playing a lot more.He clearly owes all these guys exactl

That post was from March, 2024, after the Jensen debacle.

This meltdown has been predictable to anyone who’s come across any of Tom’s interviews, or seen his tweets (especially recently, not past 3 days, but post election).

Given the number of people who have reached out to him and spoken up about his current situation, I’m hopeful that he’ll have a better shot than most who suffer from whatever psychological disorder he’s got—-as if he’s just tweeking all day and night, that’s actually the best case scenario.

It’d be far worse if he had schizophrenia or bipolar disorder


by PugDolk m

I wouldn't be so quick just to take the authorities at their word and assume Tom Dwan has significant mental problems that suddenly materialized overnight. He's 38 years old, which is about a decade beyond the usual onset of schizophrenia symptoms or similar. I'd definitely be concerned about the possibility that A) he was actually drugged at a game by people wanting to try t

You're right that the typical onset of schizophrenia is earlier, but people without schizophrenia can get psychosis too...


by K2AA72 m

You're right that the typical onset of schizophrenia is earlier, but people without schizophrenia can get psychosis too...

Although the guy you quoted is generally correct regarding the timeline for schizophrenia, late-onset schizophrenia is a thing, and a common symptom is extreme paranoia.

I dunno what drug someone could’ve slipped him (and for what purpose) that would result in his behavior, and as for the conservatorship theory, that’s just pure speculation based on…what?

Does he even have money? He seemingly had trouble paying Jensen, and although Jmo is a troll who exaggerates, he’s said Tom’s in debt.

Far more likely he either stopped taking meds, or has late onset psychological issues


by K2AA72 m

You're right that the typical onset of schizophrenia is earlier, but people without schizophrenia can get psychosis too...

Anyone at any age can get induced psychotic breaks from prolonged lack of sleep and/or drug use. Not shocking that someone with Dwan's lifestyle is in this situation.


by MagRailPro m

Regarding all the ideas that the community gives here, I want to say this:Please be careful with using fighting terms like (conspiracy/conspiracy theory etc.), because using these often highlights the limited perspectivethat the user might have due to being less informed about a certain topic that might go over his head.Using these terms often highlight a certain amount of igno

The **** are you talking about? The word conspiracy was invented by the CIA? Lol, blatant misinformation.

How about posters be careful about speculating about Tom and his mental state instead. That **** causes real harm.

The poker news reporter had it right. He is in the best place he could be right now. How about we show Tom some love and support right now? If you aren't capable of that, STFU and leave him alone.


by skiier04 m

How about posters be careful about speculating about Tom and his mental state instead. That **** causes real harm.

The poker news reporter had it right. He is in the best place he could be right now. How about we show Tom some love and support right now? If you aren't capable of that, STFU and leave him alone.

Hard agree with the above. This forum has an abysmal track record regarding how it addresses issues related to mental health. Do better. Let him recover in peace.


by K2AA72 m

You're right that the typical onset of schizophrenia is earlier, but people without schizophrenia can get psychosis too...

Stimulant-induced paranoid psychosis is a common side effect of the long-term use of amphetamines and the like. It's another of many possible problems he may be experiencing. And Dwan has long looked like a candidate for being someone burning the candle at both ends.


by namisgr11 m

Stimulant-induced paranoid psychosis is a common side effect of the long-term use of amphetamines and the like. It's another of many possible problems he may be experiencing. And Dwan has long looked like a candidate for being someone burning the candle at both ends.

Whatever advance Molly's Game could have received for spilling all the details, Dwan could make way more. And certainly more than Megan Markel. He's rubbed shoulders with titans of industry, gangsters across the globe, politicians, you name it and comes across as genuinely interested in the world, and has seen (and able to interpret) many of the craziest stories. But such knowledge is dangerous.

I don't doubt that he could get a meeting with Trump through David Sachs or with Putin through some oligarch. Not many Fortune 500 CEO's can do that.


So after tweeting nonstop, he’s just leaving us on “Feeling a little better, sorry guys” or whatever?


by auralex14 m

Although the guy you quoted is generally correct regarding the timeline for schizophrenia, late-onset schizophrenia is a thing, and a common symptom is extreme paranoia.
I dunno what drug someone could’ve slipped him (and for what purpose) that would result in his behavior, and as for the conservatorship theory, that’s just pure speculation based on…what?

There's a lot of drugs you could dose someone with that would make them start acting crazy. Psychedelic amphetamines like John McAfee used to take for one. A lot of them are quite long lasting (days). If I was a criminal looking to drug someone and get them to give me access to their bank accounts, or just make them out of it enough that I could steal a phone or bitcoin wallet or whatever off of them, that wouldn't be a bad place to start.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scopolamin...
This drug is often used by criminal gangs looking to bank drain someone.

Dwan is the kind of guy who could have no money and then the next day have a lot of money. Erick Lindgren last week had no money and then a couple days ago had like a million and a half dollars. If you have $50,000 on you that's more than enough for criminals to target you. I know people that've been robbed for less leaving the LA casinos.

I got roofied once myself. It was meant for a girl I was at the bar with. We decided we liked each other's drinks more so we switched once they got brought to us. I drank about half of it and started feeling EXTREMELY drunk, fell out of my chair. I didn't lose consciousness but it was very obvious the drink was drugged. We left the bar quickly and took a taxi home and I slept for like 12 hours once I got inside and on the couch.

Just saying that, if a guy who frequently has big money on him starts acting crazy and says someone put something in his drink, my first thought would be "somebody put something in his drink" not "sudden onset of severe mental illness in a late 30s guy who has never shown symptoms of it before."


Dwan has shown many signs of mental illness the last 5 years.

He tried to regain the spotlight again as some sort of enlightened grifter during COVID. Many people were speculating he was off his mind on drugs but my assumption is more along the lines of the stresses of his lifestyle have broken his brain.

If the stories are even half true hes been broke-rich bouncing from sponsor to sponsor while owing 10s of millions for over a decade now. Its not a sustainable lifestyle for normal brains.


by coordi m

Dwan has shown many signs of mental illness the last 5 years.

Stress and mental illness are different things.


Stress causes all sorts of illnesses, mental and physical


Does anyone know how this episode is going to effect his heads-up challenge with Jungleman? Will it cause further delays, because that would suck.

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