Preflop charts resources, please share! ++ my 2 month poker journey stat as a losing player

Preflop charts resources, please share! ++ my 2 month poker journey stat as a losing player

2 months stats: (started 2 months ago)


This month stats:


Hello all! I have been told to work on my preflop so here I am! I am going to play tighter on preflop and follow the GTO charts, please do share some preflop charts resources that you think is good! I am looking at one and will compile them all.

Also Poker teaches u another level of tilt, lost a ton of rebuys tilting. It unlocks levels of tilt that you never know! I enjoy it though....

I am using this as a reference for my preflop:
https://poker-coaching.s3.amazonaws.com/...

Do let me know if there are any better ones, or what u think is good! i will compile and cross refer.

As you can see above the stats shared, Got to work on my big blind defend. I think back then I had a lot of squeeze using big blind position with marginal hands....maybe I can look it up as a stat

14 March 2025 at 10:38 AM
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First glance id see that should just fold all in bb


Also why i cant find any big blind preflop chatrts? I ve been spending some time but cant find



by whatwhytypethis

Also why i cant find any big blind preflop chatrts? I ve been spending some time but cant find

Because these are RFI (raising first in) meaning you are the first person who has a chance to raise because no one has before your (including limps). If it folds to BB you have already won the pot hence no RFI chart for BB.


Hey, thanks for your reply. So if a position raises, your calling range is narrowed compared to the position and filters out some 3bet if you have stronger hands, right?


yes the earlier position a raise the tighter your range should be calling from the BB. The typical advise is from other positions vs a raise you should fold or 3bet, so the same is true.. your 3bet range from sb vs BTN should be wider than vs an UTG open.

If you make a free GTOwizard account you see all the opens/calls/3bets from all positions.. just make sure to close it when you are playing poker.


As Burkeman says--you can find free ranges on GTOwiz website. Alternatively here, here is some ranges I solved for utilizing HRC:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1...


@brokenstars
Thank you for sharing, it is very tight and nice preflop chart.

I realized that I played too many marginal hands as a beginner, causing the all-in ev line to keep dropping. Playing too loose too many marginal hands most of the time.

I just tried playing the preflop "raise / 3bet/ fold" method, and it works well. Avoid calls at all times.... only sometimes in BTN or during BB vs. SB situations.

The problem is having to play 2 fast tables or I will be bored to the nuts.

This reduced my vpip to a 20-30 range


You can call from the BB of course... Just adopting more of a 3b or fold strategy vs. RFI from SB/BT/CO/MP is a simplification.


by Brokenstars

As Burkeman says--you can find free ranges on GTOwiz website. Alternatively here, here is some ranges I solved for utilizing HRC:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1...

Thanks for the charts, I have some questions.
Why are there two charts for same position, one showing ev, is it just to demonstrate the ev because cant show in 1 chart?
Should you mix open sizes (for the same position) as the chart seems to imply? Or in reality can you not do this, as most players seem not to. For ref I open 2bb EP+MP, 2.2bb CO+BTN, 2bb SB - which I will change to 3bb open when bb 3bets more in population - are these ok if I follow the charts with these sizes?

Also could you explain some more about the preflop ev, like is it a function of total ev? What is the calculation there and how does it exactly relate to reality? Because you say about leaving 0ev hands out but wouldn't these always be ok to play in pools playing nowhere close to GTO?
Thanks.


by Burkeman

Thanks for the charts, I have some questions.Why are there two charts for same position, one showing ev, is it just to demonstrate the ev because cant show in 1 chart?Should you mix open sizes (for the same position) as the chart seems to imply? Or in reality can you not do this, as most players seem not to. For ref I open 2bb EP+MP, 2.2bb CO+BTN, 2bb SB - which I will change t

- There are two charts where one shows EV and one shows the ranges because then the viewer can gauge what a hand is approximately worth in a pseudo gto environment. It helps the viewer understand what each hand is worth.

-You should not mix open sizes for the same position. The charts were just created with multiple allowed sizings. You can stick with your current preflop sizing strategy. You can make adjustments on sizings based on your table and if adjusting your rfi sizings most adjustments would likely be in SB and BTN.

-The EVs are just what the hands are worth in the model. So, if it says 0.01, then presumably that hand is worth ~0.01bb as an open from that position. It would be inaccurate to say that just because your opponents are not playing GTO that all hands would increase in EV. For example, imagine you're opening in the SB and the BB just jammed all hands. If that was the case, then for any hands with ~<50% equity vs. all hands would not make sense as opens since they would just open and then fold vs. that strategy. In this example a hand such as 54s would be losing 2.5bb/hand if they opened to 3.0bb and then folded to the jam since 54s has <50% equity vs any two cards. Just because your population is not playing GTO does not mean all hands in a preflop chart gain EV (though it is possible). Depending on the conditions you might be tighter or wider.


Thanks that is helpful. Just to clarifiy, if for example a preflop hand has 0 ev, does this mean that in every possible node in the GTO tree (preflop to river and any folds before then) it will average (sum?) to 0?


by Burkeman

Thanks that is helpful. Just to clarifiy, if for example a preflop hand has 0 ev, does this mean that in every possible node in the GTO tree (preflop to river and any folds before then) it will average (sum?) to 0?

Yes. The EV for that hand summed up over all possible nodes and the probabilities of each occurring within the model will sum to be that value. It's not perfectly accurate, so think more like 0.00 +/- 0.01evbb or something. Also, I'll stress that it is only a model and is as such not perfect.


by Brokenstars

-You should not mix open sizes for the same position. The charts were just created with multiple allowed sizings.

I know this is the beginner forum but I'm just curious why not mix sizes if solver suggests this otherwise wouldn't it just opt for one size? I rail HS tables and also see people using the same positional sizings, but doesn't this make it exploitable? I know the GTO strategy doesn't profit vs frequency mistakes so is it just assumed that would be too much to remember for minimal ev gain?


by Burkeman

I know this is the beginner forum but I'm just curious why not mix sizes if solver suggests this otherwise wouldn't it just opt for one size? I rail HS tables and also see people using the same positional sizings, but doesn't this make it exploitable? I know the GTO strategy doesn't profit vs frequency mistakes so is it just assumed that would be too much to remember for minima

The theoretical EV gain of mixing sizings is likely equal to or less than the error rate in the solver to begin with.

It's not exploitable, no, (atleast not in the sense in which I believe you are asking). It, however, might be slightly lower EV.

For example, let's say I run the same sim with all the same sizings except for the EP player can only open 2.2, then repeat with 2.0, 2.1, 2.3, 2.4, 2.5, 2.6, 2.7, 2.8, 2.9, 3.0, etc.

Let us say the EV for EP RFI in these sims is X and the error rate/accuracy of the sim is like 0.1evbb. The outputs for the EVs for all of these are likely to be within ~0.1evbb, maybe a bit more for sizings >2.5bb. So, for example the overall strategy might say it has an EV from EP of like 10evbb... doing some extremely complicated frequency mixes with hands and multiple sizings might bring it to 10.1evbb, but to gain 0.1evbb is beyond trivial for the amount of effort required to implement said strategy.

These same type of simplifications occur postflop for good players also...good/elite players rarely utilize more than a couple sizings for specific texture and stack depth. The EV gain for further complexity is very minor when compared to the error rate of the human executing the strategy.

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