RFK - Make America Healthy? again?
I believe this guy is going to need his own thread.
The vast majority of people who died after getting COVID were halfway out the door already.
Yikes
Wrong.
It can be successfully argued that grandma's life isn't worth more than all the kids we shot up with an experimental cocktail to try and shield her.
Really stupid. I hope you've never said the words "all lives matter." And there was nothing "experimental" nor "cocktail" about covid vaccines. That's conspiracy theory stupidity.
Vaccinating kids against it is one of those calls that an AI overlord would probably not have made.
No, because AI is actually somewhat intelligent, unlike this ridiculous post.
Why didn't you tell us up front?
fwiw I had both of my daughters at the hospital during the week(for 1) and literally the day before for the other 1 before the first official cases here. One was just given an inhaler(first time in her life) and sent home and the other was in the emergency room on a nebulizer for hours. Both were situations I'd never faced with them before. It was a weird time.
I've still never had covid afaik.
trans ness isn't a disease or a medical condition.they explicitly removed it from the psychiatric manual a few years ago.can't have it both ways. if you want healthcare money to cover it then it can come with strings attached like all other severe mental conditions (like exclusion from any job that requires no mental illness for example).or, it is not a health condition, then w
ok so this sttement isnt rooted in truth as far as i can tell. gender affirming care is deemed medically necessary. just because you dont think so doesnt mean it shouldnt be or isnt.
in the same way that you are not a doctor nor medically trained professional nor steeped in any experience that affords you expertise to comment on this or any other medical issue and yet your "lived truth" is entirely distorted by your own POV of how _YOU_ think the world should be. so again, I think you should take some time to make a good faith attempt at trying to see the world through the eyes of those you despise if only for a moment at a time.
The man does have a point. The vast majority of people who died after getting COVID were halfway out the door already.Kids were never at risk themselves. Only as carriers. It can be successfully argued that grandma's life isn't worth more than all the kids we shot up with an experimental cocktail to try and shield her. The only reason it was even a discussion is because it w
I for one am SHOCKED that Inso0 is fantasizing about straw men. Again.
what medical training did RFK receive? for some reason i cant recall and i swear to god the man isnt so ****ing pitifully stupid or disgustingly cruel to assume simply by virtue of being who he is that his "opining" on complex topics like this are worth anyone's time?
earlier i stated i didnt think 95 yr olds should receive cancer treatment. this is not an opinion i actually harbor but was intended with effect to make a point.
i'd argue that cancer treatment is actually kind of cruel for a 95 year old but I'd like to take this opportunity to lead by example: given that i am not an accreddited professional in medical science in any sense of the word, my opinions on this topic are absolutely pointless and amount to nothing more than self serving drivel to assuage some nagging insecurity i may hold about my own intelligence.
"know thyself" as its written above the oracle at delphi.
i hope some of you who read this, and you should know who you all are, can join me in accepting that our naivete on a subject and willingness to admit it is not a detriment to our character but a testament of our virtues.
He has no medical training. He's also lying about being vaccinated being 23% more deadly than being unvaccinated (or whatever poorly formed claim he's trying to make there - it's literally a nonsensical claim so you just have to guess at what it's trying to say).
Absolutely pathetic.
<17% of Americans are in the 65+ age bracket.
>75% of "COVID" deaths were in the 65+ age bracket.
~95% of COVID deaths were in people age 50+.
You guys can whatabout me all you want, but it was not a risk to young people. I have no strong feelings one way or another on the vaccine itself, and I took it twice. I never hated on anyone who opted not to take it. I clowned on many many people wearing their masks below their nose while simultaneously shaming others for not having one on at all.
We have a mental health crisis in this country, and COVID brought out a lot of truly bizarre takes and behaviors.
<17% of Americans are in the 65+ age bracket.>75% of "COVID" deaths were in the 65+ age bracket.~95% of COVID deaths were in people age 50+.You guys can whatabout me all you want, but it was not a risk to young people. I have no strong feelings one way or another on the vaccine itself, and I took it twice. I never hated on anyone who opted not to take it. I clowned on many m
Kids weren’t injected with an experimental cocktail. The vaccine rolled out in stages to kids, first in the 11-15 age group and wasn’t approved for younger until later. The 6months to 5 year vaccine was approved in June of 2022.
Indeed, it’s truly bizarre you keep insisting that you are one of the only rational and mentally healthy persons on this forum
Yeah, most self identified autists are just socially stunted misanthropes who justify their poor social standing by claiming autism
Not sure what the conundrum is here?
ok so this sttement isnt rooted in truth as far as i can tell. gender affirming care is deemed medically necessary. just because you dont think so doesnt mean it shouldnt be or isnt. in the same way that you are not a doctor nor medically trained professional nor steeped in any experience that affords you expertise to comment on this or any other medical issue and yet your "liv
"is deemed medically necessary" by a portion of physicians who gain materially from "deeming it necessary" (so people who should never be asked about it).
"it is deemed" --- lol by whom? i "deem" it not to be .
"Experts" don't get to decide what is paid by taxpayers in actual democracies, the taxpayer is sovereign above everything else for all decision making that affect him.
"experts" can be consulted but any final decision always and only stands on the political side.
I despise anyone who wants to use my money for his own goals. I have no difficulty understanding why people want to use my money for their own goals. That's how most people lived for most of history, using politics to try to steal as much as they could from more succesfull people.
I am in the rare and small subset of people who wants politics to be barred from allowing people to steal from others.
You disagere, fine, but you are worse morally than me, you want to steal from people you dislike to give to people you like. I just want an end to the stealing
earlier i stated i didnt think 95 yr olds should receive cancer treatment. this is not an opinion i actually harbor but was intended with effect to make a point. i'd argue that cancer treatment is actually kind of cruel for a 95 year old but I'd like to take this opportunity to lead by example: given that i am not an accreddited professional in medical science in any sense of t
No they aren't , as a voter you have a complete right to state how public money should be spent on ALL ISSUES, and experts don't have a better or more worthy call on that.
Because it's not about expertise rather tradeoffs, political choices. And yes it's obscene and morally horrific for the public to pay for cancer treatments of a 95y old, it's monstrous.
And having an opinion on that has 0% to do with "expertise", you aren't claiming the treatment "doesn't work" or exactly which treatment would work better (that would be expertise).
You just are claiming you don't want your money spent on that, and that's a claim you can always make and which is fully orthogonal to expertise.
So back to autism, trans and any other minorities, i just don't want my money to be spent on tiny minorities, for society to bend and accomodate minuscule minorities of the population who are bizzarre enough to require and request special, costly treatment to "feel comfortable".
This obsession with spending insane (per person) amounts for small minorities is disastrous, it's a core leftist principle which is damaging society massively.
You can disagree, i don't actually give a ****, you asked me how trans activists directly damage me, i answered, i am damaged financially and so are all the non-trans people i care about (family and friends).
<17% of Americans are in the 65+ age bracket.>75% of "COVID" deaths were in the 65+ age bracket.~95% of COVID deaths were in people age 50+.You guys can whatabout me all you want, but it was not a risk to young people. I have no strong feelings one way or another on the vaccine itself, and I took it twice. I never hated on anyone who opted not to take it. I clowned on many m
Here are a couple of articles which help to understand the risk of Covid for children:
and Article 2
Yes Covid is much less deadly for children but it can cause severe illness especially for children who have risks and those that die are usually vulnerable which may or may not be obvious to the parents:
"Risk factors for severe COVID in children
Children with any of the following conditions face a higher risk of getting very sick from COVID or its complications:
Premature birth (in infants).
Asthma or other chronic lung conditions.
Obesity.
Type 2 diabetes.
Congenital heart disease or cardiovascular disease.
Sickle cell disease.
Disorders affecting their brain or nervous system.
Conditions that require the use of a feeding tube.
Compromised immune system."
During Covid I never heard that had my children been born prematurely they would be at high risk for Covid ramifications. Similarly with congenital heart disease issues (my father died of a heart attack when he was 54 and asthma which my children both have). With obesity yes I became aware in mid 2020.
The other problem for me was Long Covid. It rarely comes up in conversations but it can be very debilitating. And children can get it.
My son whose asthma is worse than my daughter's did likely suffer from Myocarditis when he had his Covid vaccine. It was chest pain and somewhat mild (the doctor tested his heart and told us it wouldn't be a long time problem). But what it meant was that had he gotten Covid first, the Myocarditis could have been much worse.
Here are a couple of articles which help to understand the risk of Covid for children:
and Article 2Yes Covid is much less deadly for children but it can cause severe illness especially for children who have risks and those that die are usually vulnerable which may or may not be obvious to the parents:"Risk factors for severe COVID in childrenChildren with any of theDo you realize not a single child died in excess though? so literally covid killed 0 children?
The dangers for children are also likely underestimated. Covid, even in children, can exacerbate other conditions - leading to complications that aren't directly ascribed to covid but still caused by it.
Myocarditis is inflammation of the heart and happens in response to infections of both types (viral and bacterial) and medications. Its severity varies greatly, but it is usually transient (goes away on its own). Myocarditis caused by covid is far more common and severe than vaccine-induced myocarditis.
Do you realize not a single child died in excess though? so literally covid killed 0 children?
Not sure what you mean by "excess" but like 17,400 children under 20 died of Covid worldwide. Here is an article on it
"How many children have died from COVID-19?
Among the 4.4 million COVID-19 deaths1 reported in the MPIDR COVerAGE database, 0.4 per cent (over 17,400) occurred in children and adolescents under 20 years of age. Of the over 17,400 deaths reported in those under 20 years of age, 53 per cent occurred among adolescents ages 10–19, and 47 per cent among children ages 0–9."
Not sure what you mean by "excess" but like 17,400 children under 20 died of Covid worldwide. Here is an article on it"How many children have died from COVID-19?Among the 4.4 million COVID-19 deaths1 reported in the MPIDR COVerAGE database, 0.4 per cent (over 17,400) occurred in children and adolescents under 20 years of age. Of the over 17,400 deaths reported in those under 2
The excess deaths stuff is just a comparison with how many are expected to die every year. The idea is they think even if covid killed 17,000 kids, 17,000 others didn't die because reasons (probably the very lockdowns they complain about, but they would never admit that). It doesn't mean covid wasn't dangerous to children, since it literally killed them, of course, but they have to justify it any way they can to desperately cling to their worldview.
Again, it's just sad to watch.
"Pointing this gun at you and pulling the trigger at you isn't dangerous, there won't be any excess deaths even if it kills you!"
Such an absolutely desperate thought process.
So that's fairly straightforwardly a lie.
Not sure what you mean by "excess" but like 17,400 children under 20 died of Covid worldwide. Here is an article on it"How many children have died from COVID-19?Among the 4.4 million COVID-19 deaths1 reported in the MPIDR COVerAGE database, 0.4 per cent (over 17,400) occurred in children and adolescents under 20 years of age. Of the over 17,400 deaths reported in those under 2
by excess i mean the same way we ascertained all the other actual covid deaths: comparing to baseline pre-covid death rates.
Which you know is how we learnt that the elders actually died a lot more than "official death counts" would have told us, and no children died of covid
Always funny when people who have shown an inability to form coherent macro views on complicated systems start really digging into the weeds to find any tiny piece of data that supports their ******ation
